diff --git a/book/2004-09.txt b/book/2004-09.txt index 616a27e..d29827a 100644 --- a/book/2004-09.txt +++ b/book/2004-09.txt @@ -7495,7 +7495,7 @@ Speaking of testcases, you should have a look at AUnit. http://www.myjavaserver.com/~tmgisi/aldor-jsp/showPackage.jsp?id=1 Maybe this could be also useful for Axiom. Christian - took much effort to translate the JUnit +Christian Aistleitner took much effort to translate the JUnit idea from Java to Aldor. I think he did great work. Christian, could you update your website with the newest version. On the diff --git a/book/2005-10.txt b/book/2005-10.txt index a3792ce..afc2fff 100644 --- a/book/2005-10.txt +++ b/book/2005-10.txt @@ -15936,7 +15936,7 @@ Received: from seam101.local ([131.130.96.153]) Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:04:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Martin Rubey Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:02:26 +0200 -To: "Christian Aistleitner" +To: "Christian Aistleitner" Christian Aistleitner Subject: Re: Aldor and Lisp <20051015024201.52793.qmail@web31708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <17232.51049.47689.590835@seam101.local> @@ -16382,7 +16382,7 @@ Thread-Topic: Aldor and Lisp Thread-Index: AcXUw0qapUBSlMMpSHKW5oOWV1jULQACfQiA From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey, - "Christian Aistleitner" + "Christian Aistleitner" Christian Aistleitner Cc: list On Wednesday, October 19, 2005 5:02 AM Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -18880,7 +18880,7 @@ Subject: Re: Aldor and Lisp <4354C2B6.5050402@hemmecke.de> <17238.2978.228447.563424@seam101.local> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 10:19:35 +0200 -From: "Christian Aistleitner" +From: "Christian Aistleitner" Christian Aistleitner Cc: Camm Maguire, list, Peter Broadbery @@ -18935,7 +18935,7 @@ Received: from 85-124-74-203.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at (EHLO mail.gmx.at) To: Bill Page, Martin Rubey Subject: Re: Aldor and Lisp Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 10:56:29 +0200 -From: "Christian Aistleitner" +From: "Christian Aistleitner" Christian Aistleitner Cc: list Hello, diff --git a/book/2006-04.txt b/book/2006-04.txt index c08e3f3..654b299 100644 --- a/book/2006-04.txt +++ b/book/2006-04.txt @@ -1,36 +1,7 @@ \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPYHM-0006AT-PE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 00:04:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPYHK-0006AO-R1 - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 00:04:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPYHJ-0006AC-MM - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 00:04:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FPYHJ-0006A9-Gd - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 00:04:01 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FPYJr-00050g-3g - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 00:06:39 -0500 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3153rc8019915; - Sat, 1 Apr 2006 00:03:58 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C5F7F403; - Sat, 1 Apr 2006 00:03:53 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k315oo116622; - Sat, 1 Apr 2006 00:50:50 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 00:50:50 -0500 From: root Tim Daly To: Gregory Vanuxem - Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= on Fri, 31 Mar 2006 02:48:25 +0200) - <4429AF8D.1030309@hemmecke.de> - <1143766105.13605.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list Subject: Re: #196 ')set functions compile on' patch applied. @@ -39,34 +10,11 @@ clear and well documented fix. excellent work. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPZnf-0002t5-4S - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 01:41:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPZne-0002sn-3v - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 01:41:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPZnd-0002sb-BY - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 01:41:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FPZnd-0002sY-9B - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 01:41:29 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FPZqB-0001pt-PL - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 01:44:08 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k316fIHb080248; - Sat, 1 Apr 2006 08:41:20 +0200 (CEST) +Date: 01 Apr 2006 08:45:23 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Francois Maltey Subject: Re: choose the better expand -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 01 Apr 2006 08:45:23 +0200 -Cc: list Dear Francois, @@ -152,35 +100,11 @@ math.sci.symbolic. I truly appreciate your work. I find it's a great pity that you cannot come to the workshop. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPZqa-0003GG-Vc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 01:44:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPZqZ-0003FV-D5 - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 01:44:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPZqX-0003Eh-NP - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 01:44:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FPZqX-0003EX-FL - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 01:44:29 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FPZt5-0001yz-Vu - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 01:47:08 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k316htHb080690; - Sat, 1 Apr 2006 08:43:56 +0200 (CEST) +Date: 01 Apr 2006 08:48:00 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Francois Maltey Subject: Re: choose the better expand -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 01 Apr 2006 08:48:00 +0200 -Cc: list I forgot to add: @@ -193,39 +117,11 @@ If you teach axiom the trick - in a sensible manner - this would be great. I guess this all boils down to introduce an Expression Domain without variables. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPdIu-0007sV-RK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 05:26:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPdIt-0007sA-7W - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 05:25:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPdIr-0007ro-4R - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 05:25:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FPdIq-0007rl-Vi - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 05:25:57 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FPdLR-0006GB-MF - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 05:28:38 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k31APrMh005983 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sat, 1 Apr 2006 12:25:54 +0200 Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 12:26:23 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Map -Cc: 'axiom-developer' On 04/01/2006 04:50 AM, Bill Page wrote: > On March 31, 2006 9:12 PM Antoine Hersen wrote: @@ -250,34 +146,10 @@ want to get a quick advice. A SandBox is a very good place. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPguy-0005Pw-Ak - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 09:17:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPguw-0005PS-Gv - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 09:17:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPguu-0005Ot-RW - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 09:17:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FPguu-0005Ol-NZ - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 09:17:28 -0500 -Received: from [68.168.78.44] (helo=mta13.adelphia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FPgxW-0004U8-HM - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 09:20:11 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.0.2] (really [24.53.124.201]) by mta13.adelphia.net - (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP - id <20060401141723.OCMU3381.mta13.adelphia.net@[192.168.0.2]> - for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 09:17:23 -0500 Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 10:02:24 -0500 From: Raymond Rogers -To: Axiom-Developer -OpenPGP: id=539C8F82 +To: list Subject: FC5: rsync, lsp, 2412, etc Hi, @@ -294,80 +166,22 @@ Since I have doubts about present day software, I don't do automatic updates and am not familiar with using cvs and rsynch. Nice ideas but probably capable of causing some grief. -Ray Rogers - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPi3T-0003iQ-Vs - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 10:30:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPi3T-0003iJ-8g - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 10:30:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPi3R-0003hl-OQ - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 10:30:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FPi3R-0003hh-HP - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 10:30:21 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FPi65-0002Js-70 - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 10:33:05 -0500 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k31FU7eb032299; - Sat, 1 Apr 2006 10:30:12 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121F97F409; - Sat, 1 Apr 2006 10:30:08 -0500 (EST) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k31GH6U30230; - Sat, 1 Apr 2006 11:17:06 -0500 +\start Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 11:17:06 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Raymond Rogers Subject: Re: FC5: rsync, lsp, 2412, etc -Cc: list Ray, I just got the FC5 image this week so I have not yet tried to build an image there. -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPjFU-0005CC-N4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:46:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPjFT-0005Ba-MA - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:46:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPjFQ-00059E-Gz - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:46:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FPjFQ-00059B-Ct - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:46:48 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.106] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FPjI4-0004Yj-Le - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:49:32 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E42FC40E1E; - Sat, 1 Apr 2006 18:46:45 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from fmy by localhost.localdomain with local (Exim 4.60) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1FPjFN-0001oM-9f; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 18:46:45 +0200 +\start +Date: 01 Apr 2006 18:46:45 +0200 +From: Francois Maltey To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: choose the better expand - <87wteafmhr.fsf@localhost.localdomain> - <85lkuqgy7f.fsf@localhost.localdomain> -From: Francois Maltey -Date: 01 Apr 2006 18:46:45 +0200 -Cc: list Dear Martin, @@ -458,35 +272,10 @@ The function fctCtoN transforms c in R in n in Integer n<0 => -sinnx (-n, x) imag(complex(sin(x),cos(x))$CF**n) - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPjgD-000628-8K - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 12:14:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPjgC-00061n-3K - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 12:14:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPjgA-00061Q-2Y - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 12:14:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FPjg9-00061N-Vm - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 12:14:25 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.23.69] (helo=smtp14.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FPjio-0006PR-QM - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 12:17:10 -0500 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf1412.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 09D3370000B2 - for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 19:14:24 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from ALille-251-1-46-252.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-46-252.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.200.252]) - by mwinf1412.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C0678700008A - for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 19:14:23 +0200 (CEST) -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: axiom-developer Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 19:14:41 +0200 +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: list Subject: #109 and #153 in pending status Hi, @@ -496,42 +285,11 @@ Is it possible to close issues #109 and #153 (old pending status) ? I can't check these issues since i have uncompress and i don't use the makefile install target. - -Cheers, - -Greg - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPkzq-0000JW-4G - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 13:38:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPkzo-0000Ip-3P - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 13:38:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPkzm-0000GZ-7r - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 13:38:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FPkzm-0000GG-0W - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 13:38:46 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FPl2R-0003bn-AW - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 13:41:31 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k31Ic4Hb026926; - Sat, 1 Apr 2006 20:38:06 +0200 (CEST) +Date: 01 Apr 2006 20:42:11 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Francois Maltey Subject: Re: choose the better expand - <87wteafmhr.fsf@localhost.localdomain> - <85lkuqgy7f.fsf@localhost.localdomain> - <87fykxnszu.fsf@localhost.localdomain> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 01 Apr 2006 20:42:11 +0200 -Cc: list Francois Maltey writes: @@ -579,40 +337,10 @@ default: [TRUE] - controls the "product" rule for TRIGEXPAND. Thus, when the TRIGEXPAND command is used or the TRIGEXPAND switch set to TRUE, expansion of products (e.g. SIN(2*X)) will take place only if TRIGEXPANDTIMES is TRUE. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPlZN-0002R7-ES - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:15:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPlZL-0002QU-6s - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:15:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPlZJ-0002QG-Gb - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:15:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FPlZJ-0002QD-DI - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:15:29 -0500 -Received: from [66.249.82.203] (helo=xproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FPlbz-0005nd-CA - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:18:15 -0500 -Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t4so610406wxc - for ; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:15:28 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=MU31vYqZQI+5f8+S9hd1zfK9P3AfZJdq36nj4TjDW8LTKld0Xs2OAmFoj2xwYzkn7wJaCvbrJxchxm3Ryi1cmeXC+57dZ4exH59fXUBz8UkrENP1VyA1KwaM56IEBQGLLBBYLr/u8/bqQBcAXOdPEbGf+HpfyytUTMUgZZvq3ck= -Received: by 10.70.50.19 with SMTP id x19mr1807097wxx; - Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:15:28 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.70.132.15 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 11:15:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 11:15:28 -0800 -From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -To: axiom-developer +From: Antoine Hersen +To: list Subject: Re: Map Sorry, @@ -651,43 +379,12 @@ On 4/1/06, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > want to get a quick advice. > > A SandBox is a very good place. -> -> Ralf -> - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPm7l-000759-Ex - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:51:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPm7k-000754-4u - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:51:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPm7h-00073U-PF - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:51:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FPm7h-00073R-MC - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:51:01 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.106] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FPmAN-0000JT-RZ - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:53:48 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D0740E26; - Sat, 1 Apr 2006 21:50:58 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from fmy by localhost.localdomain with local (Exim 4.60) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1FPm7d-00020r-Sc; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 21:50:57 +0200 +Date: 01 Apr 2006 21:50:57 +0200 +From: Francois Maltey To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: choose the better expand - <87wteafmhr.fsf@localhost.localdomain> - <85lkuqgy7f.fsf@localhost.localdomain> - <87fykxnszu.fsf@localhost.localdomain> - <85acb5yw70.fsf@localhost.localdomain> -From: Francois Maltey -Date: 01 Apr 2006 21:50:57 +0200 -Cc: list Dear Martin, @@ -721,86 +418,27 @@ recursif does the silly expand (sin (sin (a+b))) ????? expands sin (x/3+y/2) * cos (x/2-y/7) in sin... cos... x/6 and y/14 ! (but I'm not sure I can do it !) -Good night ! - -Francois - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPmAH-00006n-Jo - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:53:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPmAG-00006I-Jd - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:53:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPmAE-00004t-Th - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:53:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FPmAE-0008WU-OS - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:53:38 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.106] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FPmCu-0000Vo-Sc - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:56:25 -0500 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A9640F26; - Sat, 1 Apr 2006 21:53:36 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from fmy by localhost.localdomain with local (Exim 4.60) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1FPmAC-00021B-G7; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 21:53:36 +0200 -To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -Subject: Re: Map - -From: Francois Maltey +\start Date: 01 Apr 2006 21:53:36 +0200 -Cc: axiom-developer +From: Francois Maltey +To: Antoine Hersen +Subject: Re: Map Salut Antoine ! -I believe it's map (degree #1, a) we must type in .spad files.=20 +I believe it's map (degree #1, a) we must type in .spad files. Last days I make the same error. I find this tips by grep .spad file. Je pense que tu as oubli=C3=A9 le #1, mais je n'ai pas test=C3=A9. -La syntaxe de caml est si pure que l'on oublie facilement=20 +La syntaxe de caml est si pure que l'on oublie facilement les petits arrangements comme ceux-la. -FMy - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPpML-000673-BP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 18:18:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPpMI-00066h-RW - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 18:18:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPpMG-00066U-CM - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 18:18:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FPpMG-00066R-6R - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 18:18:16 -0500 -Received: from [66.249.82.202] (helo=xproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FPpOy-00052A-H1 - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 18:21:04 -0500 -Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t4so624429wxc - for ; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 15:18:14 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=Xw6vNSaFjF08zCcyipjrftI1o/2KqLsA/eeO0PgVlHy2podAe8IwZU/Dzctckuocn4alpEX8AzcTk7btheaATshIJWpCqrm9Edxsea6JhZetfZ4bo45R8PTLGzmJdK6F0g7OSEojohFFBC1/SmzOUluaXRddx0SgA5lMed5DPxs= -Received: by 10.70.52.18 with SMTP id z18mr373898wxz; - Sat, 01 Apr 2006 15:18:14 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.70.132.15 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 15:18:14 -0800 (PST) +\start Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 15:18:14 -0800 -From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -To: "Francois Maltey" Francois Maltey +From: Antoine Hersen +To: Francois Maltey Subject: Re: Map - - <87odzlm5rz.fsf@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: axiom-developer Hello, @@ -826,37 +464,11 @@ Quand j'utilise Aldor le compilateur donne beaucoup plus d'information, je me demande si avec un satisfacteur de contrainte il ne serais pas possible d'avoir un peu plus de souplesse. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPqYN-0002TU-4G - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 19:34:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPqYL-0002SF-ST - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 19:34:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FPqYK-0002Ps-46 - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 19:34:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FPqYJ-0002Pb-Ve - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 19:34:48 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FPqb2-0000jq-Ll - for list; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 19:37:36 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k320YgMh030136 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sun, 2 Apr 2006 02:34:43 +0200 Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 02:34:33 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Map - -Cc: axiom-developer On 04/01/2006 09:15 PM, Antoine Hersen wrote: > Sorry, @@ -897,42 +509,11 @@ reason if you are (like me) unfamiliar with that output. Well, anyway, use Aldor and enjoy better error messages. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQ007-00015v-N0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Apr 2006 06:40:07 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQ006-00015o-9x - for list; Sun, 02 Apr 2006 06:40:06 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQ004-00015c-VB - for list; Sun, 02 Apr 2006 06:40:06 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQ004-00015Z-Os - for list; Sun, 02 Apr 2006 06:40:04 -0400 -Received: from [66.249.82.202] (helo=xproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FQ02t-0001XF-HL - for list; Sun, 02 Apr 2006 06:42:59 -0400 -Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t4so652960wxc - for ; Sun, 02 Apr 2006 03:40:03 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=s4Oa/6M0WSQftdPjrBBFgWc6o8lAwvL7lh1ecoVINFpWaLHnROJm5NbkOH0RwGCFeQRetmuH3qZoRwtorqX0/t+BzFk9oCAonkKgQ79+cwocgN2oNDStRi4Vdj9IUxHXRM0T4N4ZfJVXXnWvw9/TUuODVdZ1kA4z7aQhOS+AbsA= -Received: by 10.70.47.18 with SMTP id u18mr688722wxu; - Sun, 02 Apr 2006 03:40:03 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.70.132.15 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 03:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 03:40:03 -0700 -From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke +From: Antoine Hersen +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Map - - <442F1C19.4000306@hemmecke.de> -Cc: axiom-developer Hello, @@ -967,8 +548,8 @@ Has an exercise I could create a new domain : Map(A:Type, B:Type): with { map: (A->B , List A) -> List B ; -} =3D=3D add { - map( f:(A->B), la :List A):List B =3D=3D { +} == add { + map( f:(A->B), la :List A):List B == { [ f i for i in la ] } } @@ -976,7 +557,7 @@ map( A->B, List A )$Map(A,B) or maybe create a function -map(A:Type, B:Type, f:A->B, la: List A) : List B =3D=3D +map(A:Type, B:Type, f:A->B, la: List A) : List B == [f i for i in la] ; Anyway sorry for the vague question. @@ -1026,44 +607,11 @@ On 4/1/06, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > reason if you are (like me) unfamiliar with that output. > > Well, anyway, use Aldor and enjoy better error messages. -> -> Ralf -> -> - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQF2D-00082S-C1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Apr 2006 22:43:17 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQF2B-000824-QQ - for list; Sun, 02 Apr 2006 22:43:15 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQF2B-00081r-4S - for list; Sun, 02 Apr 2006 22:43:15 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQF2B-00081o-0N - for list; Sun, 02 Apr 2006 22:43:15 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FQF59-00081S-0A - for list; Sun, 02 Apr 2006 22:46:19 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270544F3B0; 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My axiom-developer.org mail address is down until we get the @@ -1179,39 +661,11 @@ the duration. Since list is hosted by savannah the mailing list distribution is not affected. -Tim Daly - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQJzU-0001B1-I4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 04:00:48 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQJzS-000189-Tx - for list; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 04:00:46 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQJzQ-000159-Jx - for list; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 04:00:46 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQJzQ-000151-F1 - for list; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 04:00:44 -0400 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FQK2Q-0002B6-TD - for list; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 04:03:51 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k337woHb054716; - Mon, 3 Apr 2006 09:58:53 +0200 (CEST) +\start +Date: 03 Apr 2006 10:03:03 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Francois Maltey Subject: Re: choose the better expand - <87wteafmhr.fsf@localhost.localdomain> - <85lkuqgy7f.fsf@localhost.localdomain> - <87fykxnszu.fsf@localhost.localdomain> - <85acb5yw70.fsf@localhost.localdomain> - <87sloxm5we.fsf@localhost.localdomain> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 03 Apr 2006 10:03:03 +0200 -Cc: list Francois Maltey writes: @@ -1253,36 +707,11 @@ only help after the workshop, but I'll do my best. Since I'm very bad at trigonometrics, I find the description above a little terse. Precise definitions would be very helpful. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQgbQ-0003Sn-Ar - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:09:28 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQgbO-0003Qm-P2 - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:09:26 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQgbM-0003Nl-Mq - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:09:26 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQgbM-0003NX-HB - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:09:24 -0400 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FQgeb-0007h2-B1 - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:12:45 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k3487fHb065369; - Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:08:09 +0200 (CEST) -To: axiom-dev , aldor-l -From: Martin Rubey Date: 04 Apr 2006 10:11:57 +0200 -Cc: -Subject: operations working in general, - but not in special cases -- help needed +From: Martin Rubey +To: list +Subject: operations working in general, but not in special cases -- help needed Dear all, @@ -1333,38 +762,11 @@ subdomains of domains of A, which are no longer closed under op. Can you propose a "natural" hierarchy of categories for this situation? Since this occurs so often, I hope that there is a nice solution... -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQgxx-0002pJ-C3 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:32:45 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQgxv-0002mV-SC - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:32:43 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQgxt-0002h1-SK - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:32:43 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQgxt-0002gm-OP - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:32:41 -0400 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FQh18-00017D-US - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:36:03 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k348WOHb079315; - Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:32:26 +0200 (CEST) -To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -Subject: Re: Map - - <442F1C19.4000306@hemmecke.de> - -From: Martin Rubey Date: 04 Apr 2006 10:36:41 +0200 -Cc: axiom-developer +From: Martin Rubey +To: Antoine Hersen +Subject: Re: Map Dear Antoine, @@ -1394,42 +796,11 @@ click signatures (still a lot of work, since there are so many, but better than )show) -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQh8g-0006Ty-F0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:43:50 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQh8e-0006To-HN - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:43:48 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQh8c-0006TA-M0 - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:43:48 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQh8c-0006T5-Au - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:43:46 -0400 -Received: from [134.34.143.6] (helo=spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FQhBr-00021W-8R - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:47:07 -0400 -Received: from clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de (clifford [134.34.143.32]) - by spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04159; - Tue, 4 Apr 2006 09:08:17 +0200 (MET DST) -Received: from clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/SuSE Linux 0.6) with - ESMTP id k347hnKJ011596; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 09:43:49 +0200 -Received: from localhost (fauser@localhost) - by clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id - k347hnUr011593; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 09:43:49 +0200 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 09:43:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Bertfried Fauser To: Martin Rubey -Subject: Re: operations working in general, but not in - special cases -- help needed -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l +Subject: Re: operations working in general, but not in special cases -- help needed On 4 Apr 2006, Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -1493,46 +864,13 @@ Lawvere!) is used to do so, nobody would start with Set to do say differential topology. Also a computer algebra system which would tried to do this would be doomed to fail. -ciao -BF. - -% PD Dr Bertfried Fauser -% Institution: Max Planck Institute for Math, Leipzig -% Privat Docent: University of Konstanz, Phys Dept -% contact|->URL : http://clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~fauser/ -% Phone : Leipzig +49 341 9959 735 Konstanz +49 7531 693491 - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQiLG-0004oX-9N - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 06:00:54 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQiLE-0004oP-RO - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 06:00:52 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQiLD-0004o0-Ex - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 06:00:52 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQiLD-0004nw-7G - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 06:00:51 -0400 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FQiOT-0007hF-2I - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 06:04:13 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k349uuHb031541; - Tue, 4 Apr 2006 11:57:01 +0200 (CEST) -To: tmgisi@gmx.at - -From: Martin Rubey +\start Date: 04 Apr 2006 12:01:14 +0200 -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] operations working in general, - but not in special cases -- help needed +From: Martin Rubey +To: Christian Aistleitner +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] operations working in general, but not in special cases -- help needed -"Christian Aistleitner" writes: +Christian Aistleitner writes: > Dear Martin, > @@ -1586,40 +924,11 @@ vertices So, what to do? -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQkfh-0005sP-Jg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:30:09 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQkff-0005qk-CH - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:30:07 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQkfe-0005qB-Ez - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:30:06 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQkfd-0005q2-Pp - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:30:05 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FQkiv-0006xU-8i - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:33:29 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k34CTnMh011327 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 4 Apr 2006 14:29:50 +0200 Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 14:30:20 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Martin Rubey -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] operations working in general, - but not in special cases -- help needed +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] operations working in general, but not in special cases -- help needed On 04/04/2006 10:11 AM, Martin Rubey wrote: > Example 1, Matroids @@ -1678,40 +987,11 @@ the "ClosurePropertyCategory". I don't yet know whether this is the best thing, but I cannot think of anything better at the moment. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQnxp-0002Hh-LA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:01:05 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQnxn-0002HI-Bq - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:01:03 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQnxm-0002Gx-8z - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:01:02 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQnxm-0002Gs-03 - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:01:02 -0400 -Received: from [206.46.252.44] (helo=vms044pub.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FQo15-0001vd-Bi - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:04:27 -0400 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.163.200]) - by vms044.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 - (built Sep - 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0IX7004R8GG69W48@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for - list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 11:00:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:00:11 -0400 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: operations working in general, - but not in special cases -- help needed To: Martin Rubey -Message-id: <4432980B.4EDCE622@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l +Subject: Re: operations working in general, but not in special cases -- help needed Dear Martin: @@ -1928,45 +1208,13 @@ RatCat. The two examples you gave present two different problems. -William - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQxkI-0002zX-BZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 22:27:46 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQxkG-0002yd-AP - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 22:27:44 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQxkC-0002uS-Vi - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 22:27:43 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQxkC-0002uI-Sm - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 22:27:40 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FQxnc-0003Sp-JE - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 22:31:12 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF5D4F3B0; - Wed, 5 Apr 2006 04:27:37 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k352QEtZ019566; 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Wed, 5 Apr 2006 04:55:44 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k352tiOb019689; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 04:55:44 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Tim Daly - <200604030353.k333rrH02332@localhost.localdomain> - - <200604050324.k353OwH03821@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 05 Apr 2006 04:55:44 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: typo in src/boot/Makefile.pamphlet -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | it's still at patch-47. | updates are done on a best-effort, two-month interval. @@ -2116,43 +1297,11 @@ you if they could check-in patches, after public review and we have procedure for that (we already have procedure for producing and testing patches). -Thanks, - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQyYU-0005va-WD - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 23:19:39 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQyYS-0005vV-Mc - for list; 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Wed, 5 Apr 2006 06:30:37 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k354UbJv019967; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 06:30:37 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 05 Apr 2006 06:30:37 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: re: typo in src/boot/Makefile.pamphlet -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 05 Apr 2006 06:30:37 +0200 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -2371,38 +1488,11 @@ we're willing to lower the entry barrier. For example, I hope to succeed in attracting students to Axiom, but that would succeed only if they are not intimidated. -My two cents. - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FR30S-0006Ul-C2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 04:04:48 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FR30R-0006Ub-Dh - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 04:04:47 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FR30Q-0006UH-Ds - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 04:04:46 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FR30Q-0006UE-Ag - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 04:04:46 -0400 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FR33t-0008Aj-28 - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 04:08:21 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k3584AHb064895; - Wed, 5 Apr 2006 10:04:13 +0200 (CEST) -To: William Sit -Subject: Re: operations working in general, - but not in special cases -- help needed - <4432980B.4EDCE622@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -From: Martin Rubey Date: 05 Apr 2006 10:08:31 +0200 -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l +From: Martin Rubey +To: William Sit +Subject: Re: operations working in general, but not in special cases -- help needed Dear William, * @@ -2500,43 +1590,13 @@ a single problem, too. However, I do like your approach, so I will give it a try. -Thanks again, - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FR3tx-0002LX-ER - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 05:02:09 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FR3tv-0002Kq-Tl - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 05:02:08 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FR3tt-0002K4-QF - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 05:02:07 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FR3tt-0002Jy-JQ - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 05:02:05 -0400 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FR3xM-0003bx-QG - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 05:05:41 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k35914Hb098526; - Wed, 5 Apr 2006 11:01:07 +0200 (CEST) -To: tmgisi@gmx.at - - <85d5fxlkwl.fsf@localhost.localdomain> - -From: Martin Rubey Date: 05 Apr 2006 11:05:25 +0200 -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] operations working in general, - but not in special cases -- help needed +From: Martin Rubey +To: Christian Aistleitner +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] operations working in general, but not in special cases -- help needed -"Christian Aistleitner" writes: +Christian Aistleitner writes: > I am not familiar with matroids, so let me get this straightened out. > > 1. Graphic non-planar matroids do not provide a way to compute a dual @@ -2568,40 +1628,11 @@ I think that William Sit got it right -- and his solution is simple, too -- but I don't have time right now to check the details. He sent his mail also to Aldor-l, so you should have gotten it... -Are we going to meet on the workshop? - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FR46A-0006cd-Kp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 05:14:46 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQi0c-0007gb-QW - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 05:39:34 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FQi0a-0007gP-5E - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 05:39:33 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQi0a-0007gM-0v - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 05:39:32 -0400 -Received: from [213.165.64.20] (helo=mail.gmx.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FQi3p-00067H-Og - for list; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 05:42:54 -0400 -Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 04 Apr 2006 09:39:29 -0000 -Received: from 83-65-215-29.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at (EHLO - spencer.aistleitner.info) [83.65.215.29] - by mail.gmx.net (mp039) with SMTP; 04 Apr 2006 11:39:29 +0200 -To: Martin Rubey, - axiom-dev , aldor-l Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 11:39:29 +0200 -From: "Christian Aistleitner" -Cc: -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] operations working in general, - but not in special cases -- help needed +From: Christian Aistleitner +To: Martin Rubey, +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] operations working in general, but not in special cases -- help needed Dear Martin, @@ -2680,40 +1711,11 @@ MatroidType: Category == with { } } - -Kind regards, -Christian - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FR46A-0006cp-SR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 05:14:46 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FR3gV-0007fv-Dp - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 04:48:15 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FR3gT-0007f2-5v - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 04:48:14 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FR3gS-0007ez-VN - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 04:48:13 -0400 -Received: from [213.165.64.20] (helo=mail.gmx.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FR3jw-0002dY-4I - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 04:51:48 -0400 -Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Apr 2006 08:48:08 -0000 -Received: from 85-124-74-120.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at (EHLO - spencer.aistleitner.info) [85.124.74.120] - by mail.gmx.net (mp031) with SMTP; 05 Apr 2006 10:48:08 +0200 +\start Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 10:48:06 +0200 +From: Christian Aistleitner To: Martin Rubey - - <85d5fxlkwl.fsf@localhost.localdomain> -From: "Christian Aistleitner" -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] operations working in general, - but not in special cases -- help needed +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] operations working in general, but not in special cases -- help needed Hello Martin, @@ -2851,41 +1853,11 @@ superfluous. Therefore, 3. is redundant and already contained. Obviously, I misunderstood the problem, as my solution seems too easy :(( - - --- -Kind regards, -Christian - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FR46A-0006cf-OS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 05:14:46 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FR2mE-0003Do-FK - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:50:06 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FR2mC-0003Cu-5D - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:50:05 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FR2mB-0003Cn-Nq - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:50:03 -0400 -Received: from [213.165.64.20] (helo=mail.gmx.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FR2pe-000795-BG - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:53:38 -0400 -Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Apr 2006 07:50:02 -0000 -Received: from 85-124-74-120.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at (EHLO - spencer.aistleitner.info) [85.124.74.120] - by mail.gmx.net (mp026) with SMTP; 05 Apr 2006 09:50:02 +0200 -To: Bertfried Fauser, - Martin Rubey -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Re: operations working in general, - but not in special cases -- help needed +\start Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 09:49:58 +0200 -From: "Christian Aistleitner" -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l +From: Christian Aistleitner +To: Bertfried Fauser, Martin Rubey +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] Re: operations working in general, but not in special cases -- help needed Hi Bertfried, @@ -2913,42 +1885,11 @@ According to Martin's description of matroids and "graphical matroids", a So a "graphical matroid" should _not_ be modelled as a specialisation of matroid. --- -King regards, -Christian - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FR5AJ-00075y-Vg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 06:23:08 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FR5AH-00075n-TW - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 06:23:05 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FR5AD-00075E-7T - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 06:23:05 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FR5AD-00075B-4y - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 06:23:01 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FR5Dh-0000nf-4L - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 06:26:37 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k35AMmMh020191 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:22:48 +0200 +\start Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:23:36 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: William Sit -Subject: Re: operations working in general, - but not in special cases -- help needed - <4432980B.4EDCE622@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l +Subject: Re: operations working in general, but not in special cases -- help needed Dear William, @@ -3101,40 +2042,11 @@ and call it with That sounds to me as follows: If E' \supset E and I \subseteq Power(E) then the matroids (E, I) and (E', I) are the same. I cannot believe that. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FR97X-0005jY-Of - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 10:36:31 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FR97V-0005jD-PG - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 10:36:29 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FR97S-0005j1-4y - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 10:36:28 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FR97R-0005iy-Vg - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 10:36:26 -0400 -Received: from [68.142.201.189] (helo=web31709.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FR9Ay-000859-M0 - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 10:40:04 -0400 -Received: (qmail 70538 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Apr 2006 14:36:03 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=dn5jvkNyzompMW+Use2s//5GLrIjRKDMxFZVlBY5ZbiBDWt/s2gx1PNELxtYFsdgAq2lIGx0AKLlOyzXjw6hrZG+N8nNd6qOrhG2YnGDqj7GkKneuuWtoug9NN1F02rQ3m+QIKGaGair8wsS6EL9JHBIq9aDTyCIfxdR/XrkjYM= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31709.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Wed, 05 Apr 2006 07:36:03 PDT Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 07:36:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -To: Bill Page, - Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list -Subject: Developers and Axiom (was Re: typo in - src/boot/Makefile.pamphlet) +To: Bill Page, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Developers and Axiom (was Re: typo in src/boot/Makefile.pamphlet) --- Bill Page wrote: @@ -3236,50 +2148,11 @@ will be in a good position to incorporate them into our branch, and in the meantime the ambiguity of Aldor in Axiom can end and we can start transitioning away from SPAD for real. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRAWb-0001pH-GY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:06:29 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRAWZ-0001n0-8I - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:06:27 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRAWX-0001lb-Am - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:06:26 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRAWX-0001lQ-4E - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:06:25 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRAa4-0008BQ-OS - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:10:04 -0400 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k35G6H2a016174; - Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:06:17 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2767F406; - Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:06:18 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k35GrC104865; - Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:53:12 -0400 +\start Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:53:12 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Cliff Yapp - from C Y on Wed, 5 Apr 2006 07:36:03 -0700 (PDT)) -Subject: Re: Developers and Axiom (was Re: typo in - src/boot/Makefile.pamphlet) - J_CHICKENPOX_38 -Cc: list +Subject: Re: Developers and Axiom (was Re: typo in src/boot/Makefile.pamphlet) CY writes: @@ -3452,42 +2325,11 @@ i find it extremely productive. i run "C-x e" every 10 lines of changes (about once every minute or two) so i know that the latest change will compile, latex, and run the test cases properly. -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRAwY-0007FY-Gp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:33:18 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRAwV-0007EN-PA - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:33:15 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRAwU-0007DU-2y - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:33:15 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRAwT-0007DO-SK - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:33:13 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRB01-0002Jj-Ly - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:36:53 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k35GXAMh028016 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:33:10 +0200 Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 18:33:58 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly -Subject: Re: Developers and Axiom (was Re: typo - in src/boot/Makefile.pamphlet) - <200604051653.k35GrC104865@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list +Subject: Re: Developers and Axiom (was Re: typo in src/boot/Makefile.pamphlet) Hello, @@ -3517,42 +2359,12 @@ could point other people to it? We should have several such examples. I guess that would help new people to start working. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRHAv-0007hN-Sz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:12:33 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRHAu-0007h7-6r - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:12:32 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRHAt-0007gt-1l - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:12:31 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRHAs-0007gm-T6 - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:12:30 -0400 -Received: from [66.249.82.192] (helo=xproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRHEU-0008Pl-Qj - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:16:15 -0400 -Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s16so6270wxc - for ; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 16:12:29 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; - b=QmgHfM4y+q1mShfhHoF8pDfNYEyi5oTwmf4VB3vUHJvqMIetbs7E8os3ukPSlCtwATi1+mSoC5SUT2LpQIbxnDbxfkuAxKEtSQ3eqEB5CeVykp0grLhb7vfgVFTC+g3BpJhuRwNLrQ+QFd9EFj8ATJcOZXo8KaUVulUXVXmgeCQ= -Received: by 10.70.130.14 with SMTP id c14mr247904wxd; - Wed, 05 Apr 2006 16:12:24 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.70.131.5 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:12:23 -0700 -From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -To: axiom-developer - boundary="----=_Part_14128_14507486.1144278743990" +From: Antoine Hersen +To: list Subject: Personel Section in MathAction ? -------=_Part_14128_14507486.1144278743990 - Hello, When I am working on Axiom, I often have ideas, comments, "lesson learned", @@ -3580,47 +2392,16 @@ but are not "front page ready". ting for other people to ?
Easy to implement ?

Antoine Hersen

-------=_Part_14128_14507486.1144278743990-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRJYR-0003s2-CQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 21:44:59 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRJYQ-0003rx-9a - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 21:44:58 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRJYO-0003rl-Pv - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 21:44:57 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRJYO-0003ri-KW - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 21:44:56 -0400 -Received: from [68.142.201.186] (helo=web31706.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRJc1-000068-RQ - for list; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 21:48:42 -0400 -Received: (qmail 28148 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Apr 2006 01:44:55 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=YnVYzmbuMucWTDZsFTxxUpATybYDrHIWMzQ6W9Fy/16wV4zr/WUrednXogr/+5JRFEvmeNql2eL/7MyWhZiftjGj8ErnxeOVeXImYOXHEr14jXrL4Ir8YStD+UXg1H4XeKmHH6MuFsht5cXbaD968wb1WA+g3RxgWmNXH2Uhbpk= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31706.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Wed, 05 Apr 2006 18:44:55 PDT +\start Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:44:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp +To: Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Personel Section in MathAction ? -To: Antoine Hersen, - axiom-developer -Cc: Maybe you want to take a look at http://portal.axiom-developer.org? That's pretty much what I use it for ;-) -Cheers, -CY - --- Antoine Hersen wrote: > Hello, @@ -3647,44 +2428,11 @@ CY > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer > - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRN2Q-00072q-C4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 01:28:10 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRN2O-00072l-TX - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 01:28:08 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRN2M-00072Z-Jt - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 01:28:07 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRN2M-00072W-DA - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 01:28:06 -0400 -Received: from [213.165.64.20] (helo=mail.gmx.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRN61-0006DS-OE - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 01:31:54 -0400 -Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Apr 2006 05:28:04 -0000 -Received: from 85-126-38-179.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at (EHLO - spencer.aistleitner.info) [85.126.38.179] - by mail.gmx.net (mp029) with SMTP; 06 Apr 2006 07:28:04 +0200 -To: Martin Rubey - - <85d5fxlkwl.fsf@localhost.localdomain> - - <85psjwo0iy.fsf@localhost.localdomain> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 07:28:02 +0200 -From: "Christian Aistleitner" -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l -Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] operations working in general, - but not in special cases -- help needed +From: Christian Aistleitner +To: list +Subject: Re: [Aldor-l] operations working in general, but not in special cases -- help needed Hello Martin, @@ -3698,43 +2446,11 @@ However ... > Are we going to meet on the workshop? -I hope so. - -Kind regards, -Christian - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FROjo-0000fP-2z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 03:17:04 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FROjl-0000eS-P5 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 03:17:01 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FROji-0000cq-Qi - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 03:17:00 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FROji-0000cU-EP - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 03:16:58 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FROnO-0005KK-68 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 03:20:46 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k367GmMh018091 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 09:16:49 +0200 +\start Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 21:52:48 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: typo in src/boot/Makefile.pamphlet - -Cc: list Hi Gaby, @@ -3769,45 +2485,11 @@ like to contribute code.) Since I have no idea about how this works, could you be a bit more specific? -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRPrv-0003KM-2y - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 04:29:31 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRPrs-0003Jh-ND - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 04:29:28 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRPrr-0003J6-Lw - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 04:29:28 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRPrr-0003J3-IS - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 04:29:27 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRPvY-00028n-T3 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 04:33:17 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A9C40F65; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:29:25 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k368RttZ025673; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:27:55 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k368Rtn6025672; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:27:55 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 06 Apr 2006 10:27:55 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: typo in src/boot/Makefile.pamphlet - - <44342010.1000603@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 06 Apr 2006 10:27:55 +0200 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -3867,36 +2549,10 @@ about the patch and suggest directions for improvements. If the patch is outrageous, let say the patch suggests to sink Axiom, then an answer might be "don't propose that again." :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRQ1f-0007R5-4s - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 04:39:35 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRQ1c-0007Qx-JM - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 04:39:32 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRQ1Z-0007Q5-2A - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 04:39:32 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRQ1Y-0007Pu-Rw - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 04:39:28 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRQ5G-00038r-3P - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 04:43:18 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k368dQMh019611 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) - for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:39:27 +0200 Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:40:17 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: axiom-dev +To: list Subject: Latex Package problem Hello, @@ -3941,37 +2597,11 @@ Type H for immediate help. l.1744 \ProcessOptionsWithKV{Hyp} - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRQW6-00031o-U1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 05:11:02 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRQW4-00031S-Pm - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 05:11:00 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRQW3-00031G-F7 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 05:11:00 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRQW3-00031D-AT - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 05:10:59 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRQZk-0005pj-4k - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 05:14:48 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k369AqMh020169 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:10:52 +0200 Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 11:11:43 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: typo in src/boot/Makefile.pamphlet - -Cc: list Hi Gaby, @@ -4072,46 +2702,11 @@ need to teach a bit. And in order not to hide this course inside the mail archive, it would be just great, if you could open up a page on AxiomWiki and let us know. (Thanks in advance.) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRQoL-0002rK-KH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 05:29:54 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRQoH-0002oE-Cj - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 05:29:49 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRQo9-0002iY-MQ - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 05:29:44 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRQo9-0002iH-BF - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 05:29:41 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRQrq-0007O6-M4 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 05:33:31 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1425240F82; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:29:39 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k369S9tZ026037; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:28:09 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k369S9Ue026036; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:28:09 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 06 Apr 2006 11:28:09 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: typo in src/boot/Makefile.pamphlet - - <44342010.1000603@hemmecke.de> - - <4434DB4F.1000905@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 06 Apr 2006 11:28:09 +0200 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -4217,36 +2812,10 @@ the week of 16 April when I'm back to work place. I'm glad we can work out a plan to make a live branch. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRScr-00046s-Dl - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 07:26:09 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRScq-00046S-1K - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 07:26:08 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRScn-00046C-Mk - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 07:26:07 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRScn-000469-Ij - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 07:26:05 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRSgW-00088P-Au - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 07:29:56 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k36BQ2Mh022730 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) - for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:26:02 +0200 Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:26:53 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: axiom-dev +To: list Subject: Mathaction and Spammers Look at @@ -4259,38 +2828,11 @@ manually removing it)? Bill, is there a way to include a spamchecker? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRTGg-00068n-30 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 08:07:18 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRTGe-00066A-G3 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 08:07:16 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRTGc-00064e-IU - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 08:07:15 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRTGc-00064P-Cm - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 08:07:14 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.218] (helo=mails18.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRTKL-00030A-L7 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 08:11:05 -0400 -Received: from asus (207-61-191-200.anikast.net [207.61.191.200]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails18.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k36C6oGV024715; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 08:07:05 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke, - "'axiom-dev'" -Subject: RE: Mathaction and Spammers Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 08:06:42 -0400 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: Mathaction and Spammers On April 6, 2006 7:27 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > @@ -4330,42 +2872,11 @@ to post a comment. I will look into this some more, but it is difficult on the web. The Zwiki developers have been struggling with this for some time. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRTVU-0004pJ-Ec - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 08:22:36 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRTVS-0004nw-Lc - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 08:22:34 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRTVR-0004nS-Qm - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 08:22:34 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRTVR-0004nM-Ir - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 08:22:33 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRTZA-0004NS-Uh - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 08:26:25 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k36CMVxY024513 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:22:31 +0200 Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:23:22 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Mathaction and Spammers -Cc: 'axiom-dev' Hi Bill, @@ -4417,41 +2928,10 @@ I am not so much into this busines, but what I think is that before anything from a comment is added to the page it is sent through a spam-filter like SpamAssassin using its Bayesian option. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRUF6-0001Uq-67 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:09:44 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRUF4-0001UX-Ut - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:09:43 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRUF3-0001Tz-3a - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:09:42 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRUF2-0001Tu-Vt - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:09:41 -0400 -Received: from [212.27.42.29] (helo=smtp3-g19.free.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRUIm-0007tB-Qv - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:13:33 -0400 -Received: from melusine (pat35-1-82-231-148-189.fbx.proxad.net - [82.231.148.189]) - by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F38483D2 - for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:09:39 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from lehobey by melusine with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) - id 1FRUF1-0001li-00 - for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:09:39 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:09:39 +0200 -To: list - - <44342010.1000603@hemmecke.de> - - <4434DB4F.1000905@hemmecke.de> - From: Frederic Lehobey +To: list Subject: SCM discussion (silver branch?) Hi, @@ -4497,46 +2977,11 @@ Frederic (still believing that patches matter more than the tools) http://lehobey-rennes.dyndns.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=doc:veille:gestion_de_code_source - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRUjc-0005c2-Re - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:41:16 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRUjb-0005bx-1q - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:41:15 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRUjY-0005bl-VT - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:41:14 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRUjY-0005bi-Os - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:41:12 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.17.104] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRUnI-0001tk-VA - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:45:05 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C733C4F3BE; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:41:02 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k36DdetZ026878; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:39:40 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k36DdebN026877; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:39:40 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 06 Apr 2006 15:39:40 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Frederic Lehobey Subject: Re: SCM discussion (silver branch?) - - <44342010.1000603@hemmecke.de> - - <4434DB4F.1000905@hemmecke.de> - - <20060406130939.GB6088@melusine> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 06 Apr 2006 15:39:40 +0200 -Cc: list Frederic Lehobey writes: @@ -4589,41 +3034,11 @@ Not yet (though I do have write access); but if we have Tim's buy-in then I'll expect that he would grant access to however will be in charge of that branch. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRV1Q-000347-KE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:59:40 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRV1P-00033z-Ev - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:59:39 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRV1M-00033l-QJ - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:59:38 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRV1M-00033i-LI - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:59:36 -0400 -Received: from [206.46.252.40] (helo=vms040pub.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRV56-0003lu-Ob - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:03:29 -0400 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.163.200]) - by vms040.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 - (built Sep - 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0IXB003H906FR810@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> for - list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 08:59:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:59:11 -0400 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: operations working in general, - but not in special cases -- help needed To: Martin Rubey -Message-id: <44351EAF.D48E971B@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 - <4432980B.4EDCE622@cunyvm.cuny.edu> - <85odzgqwao.fsf@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l +Subject: Re: operations working in general, but not in special cases -- help needed Dear Martin: @@ -4784,39 +3199,12 @@ as a function exported from AllGraphs. The other possibility is to do: GraphCat(...) == ... graphic: () ->AllMatroids -William - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRVJY-0003sq-9d - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:18:24 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRVJW-0003sQ-Pe - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:18:22 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRVJV-0003s5-8O - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:18:22 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRVJV-0003s2-3D - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:18:21 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRVNF-0005hT-LZ - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:22:13 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k36EIGxY027136 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 16:18:16 +0200 +\start Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:19:07 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: SCM discussion (silver branch?) - -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, list +Cc: Frederic Lehobey > | See Tailor: http://www.darcs.net/DarcsWiki/Tailor @@ -4828,49 +3216,12 @@ That basically says that it would be easy to update that copy from SVN AND tla, if you like. And you could also commit your work back to different archive types. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRVfq-0003mt-CV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:41:26 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRVfo-0003lC-IV - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:41:24 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRVfm-0003j0-Uk - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:41:24 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRVfm-0003ip-P1 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:41:22 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRVjX-0007IG-J6 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:45:15 -0400 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k36EfGBi010011; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:41:17 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364B07F406; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:41:17 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k36FS7u05864; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:28:07 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:28:07 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 06 Apr 2006 15:39:40 +0200) Subject: Re: SCM discussion (silver branch?) - - <44342010.1000603@hemmecke.de> - - <4434DB4F.1000905@hemmecke.de> - - <20060406130939.GB6088@melusine> - -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, list +Cc: Frederic Lehobey Gaby, @@ -4888,78 +3239,22 @@ from the Sourceforge/SVN to the Arch/Sourceforge CVS/Savannah CVS. Congrats. You're now the "Andrew Morton" of the project. Manage it well. You have my sympathy :-) -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRVjP-0004Yg-P0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:45:07 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRVjO-0004YX-4h - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:45:06 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRVjL-0004YL-QF - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:45:04 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRVjL-0004YI-KP - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:45:03 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRVn6-0007dH-Dv - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:48:56 -0400 -Received: from mua-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k36Eiv4u012293; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:44:57 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-1.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8B77F411; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:44:57 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k36FVmx05874; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:31:48 -0400 +\start Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:31:48 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - 06 Apr 2006 16:19:07 +0200) Subject: Re: SCM discussion (silver branch?) - - <4435235B.70008@hemmecke.de> -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, list +Cc: Frederic Lehobey Axiom is now available under Arch, CVS, and SVN. If Bill wants we can also create a DARCS server. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRWDr-00009T-7G - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 11:16:35 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRWDp-00006s-2D - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 11:16:33 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRWDn-00004y-1b - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 11:16:32 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRWDm-0008WS-TM - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 11:16:30 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRWHY-0001wT-5A - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 11:20:24 -0400 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k36FG3sn027561; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:16:21 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:15:46 -0400 +From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: SCM discussion (silver branch?) -Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:15:46 -0400 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, list +Cc: Frederic Lehobey On April 6, 2006 11:32 AM Tim Daly (root) wrote: > @@ -4976,47 +3271,12 @@ See: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/MathActionRepository -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRWGo-0001si-LX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 11:19:38 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRWGm-0001pM-CD - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 11:19:36 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRWGj-0001p8-RX - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 11:19:35 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRWGj-0001ov-MJ - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 11:19:33 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRWKU-0002EE-UM - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 11:23:27 -0400 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k36FJHjG013717; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:19:23 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF157F404; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:19:19 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k36G6Am05891; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:06:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:06:10 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - 06 Apr 2006 16:19:07 +0200) Subject: Re: SCM discussion (silver branch?) - - <4435235B.70008@hemmecke.de> -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, list +Cc: Frederic Lehobey If any other developer feels the desire to maintain their own SVN branch this can also be set up on sourceforge. You can use this @@ -5029,40 +3289,11 @@ Before accepting changes into the main branch I expect them to be professionally documented and tested. How Gaby maintains his public beta branch is entirely up to him. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRXHa-0004QF-Sf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:24:30 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRXHZ-0004Po-0h - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:24:29 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRXHX-0004PC-0n - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:24:28 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRXHW-0004P9-TB - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:24:26 -0400 -Received: from [134.34.143.6] (helo=spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRXLI-00086O-FM - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:28:20 -0400 -Received: from clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de (clifford [134.34.143.32]) - by spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA24488; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 16:48:58 +0200 (MET DST) -Received: from clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/SuSE Linux 0.6) with - ESMTP id k36FOfKJ015025; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 17:24:41 +0200 -Received: from localhost (fauser@localhost) - by clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id - k36FOeiu015022; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 17:24:40 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 17:24:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Bertfried Fauser To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Mathaction and Spammers -Cc: 'axiom-dev' Hi, @@ -5077,53 +3308,19 @@ possible. What about the general need to register to be able to make changes. Then a black list could exlude members who do spamming? -ciao -BF. - -% PD Dr Bertfried Fauser -% Institution: Max Planck Institute for Math, Leipzig -% Privat Docent: University of Konstanz, Phys Dept -% contact|->URL : http://clifford.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~fauser/ -% Phone : Leipzig +49 341 9959 735 Konstanz +49 7531 693491 - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRXVD-0001Yz-Hu - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:38:35 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRXVC-0001YH-7R - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:38:34 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRXVA-0001WQ-FP - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:38:33 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRXVA-0001WL-3J - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:38:32 -0400 -Received: from [212.27.42.29] (helo=smtp3-g19.free.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRXYv-0000pG-V9 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:42:26 -0400 -Received: from melusine (pat35-1-82-231-148-189.fbx.proxad.net - [82.231.148.189]) - by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27267496F4 - for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 18:38:31 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from lehobey by melusine with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) - id 1FRXV8-0002Bc-00 - for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:38:30 +0200 +\start Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 18:38:30 +0200 +From: Frederic Lehobey To: list Subject: Re: Compiling Axiom from arch source on Debian sarge -From: Frederic Lehobey Hi, On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 10:40:17AM +0200, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > I am just compiling patch-47 axiom on standard debian sarge. ->=20 -> My compilation stops in the middle of compiling the documentation and=20 +> +> My compilation stops in the middle of compiling the documentation and > just continues after I have pressed enter. I wanted to check this and started a compilation on Debian sarge from @@ -5141,81 +3338,19 @@ $ awk --version GNU Awk 3.1.4 Copyright =A9 1998, 1991-2003 Free Software Foundation, Inc. -... - -Any hint? - -Best regards, -Frederic - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRXcm-0004VP-Gn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:46:24 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRXck-0004Ut-Oe - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:46:22 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRXcj-0004Ub-5n - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:46:22 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRXcj-0004UX-2d - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:46:21 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRXgV-0001U2-2x - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:50:15 -0400 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k36Gk9v5021765; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:46:14 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C117F410; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:46:10 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k36HX2H05961; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:33:02 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:33:02 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:40:17 +0200) Subject: Re: Latex Package problem -Cc: list It appears that your hyperref package does not match my hyperref package. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRY82-0000Hp-3s - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:18:42 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRY7y-0000F1-VC - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:18:39 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRY7x-0000Dm-HY - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:18:38 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRY7x-0000De-Ar - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:18:37 -0400 -Received: from [212.27.42.30] (helo=smtp4-g19.free.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRYBj-0004XP-98 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:22:31 -0400 -Received: from melusine (pat35-1-82-231-148-189.fbx.proxad.net - [82.231.148.189]) - by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2CD54F56; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 19:18:35 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from lehobey by melusine with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) - id 1FRY7v-0002Hd-00; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:18:35 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 19:18:35 +0200 -To: David MENTRE David Mentre -Subject: Re: Compiling Axiom from arch source on Debian sarge - <3d13dcfc0604060949h5de6938ajb00279edc80adfdf@mail.gmail.com> From: Frederic Lehobey -Cc: list +To: David Mentre +Subject: Re: Compiling Axiom from arch source on Debian sarge Hi, @@ -5546,80 +3681,21 @@ Reaping losing child 0x08076c58 PID 25753 make: *** [all] Error 2 Removing child 0x08076c58 PID 25753 from chain. -Thanks, -Frederic - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRYAK-00025K-F3 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:21:04 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRYAI-00023V-QM - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:21:02 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRYAH-000221-8r - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:21:02 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRYAG-00021q-UF - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:21:00 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRYE3-0004gz-BK - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:24:55 -0400 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k36HKxUW005025; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:20:59 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448CE7F40B; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:20:59 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k36I7lA06061; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:07:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:07:47 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Frederic Lehobey - on Thu, 6 Apr 2006 18:38:30 +0200) Subject: Re: Compiling Axiom from arch source on Debian sarge -Cc: list I suspect that your failure is the same as Balbir's. Did you stop the build and attempt to restart it? There is a problem with the awk script addition to the src/algebra/Makefile. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRYl4-0006OQ-Gl - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:59:02 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRYl2-0006Nu-Pb - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:59:00 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRYl0-0006NA-RU - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:59:00 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRYl0-0006N6-Oz - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:58:58 -0400 -Received: from [212.27.42.36] (helo=smtp6-g19.free.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRYom-0007f4-Ba - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:02:52 -0400 -Received: from melusine (pat35-1-82-231-148-189.fbx.proxad.net - [82.231.148.189]) - by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C166022467; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 19:58:54 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from lehobey by melusine with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) - id 1FRYkw-0002Ls-00; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:58:54 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 19:58:54 +0200 -To: root Tim Daly -Subject: Re: Compiling Axiom from arch source on Debian sarge - <200604061807.k36I7lA06061@localhost.localdomain> From: Frederic Lehobey -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: Compiling Axiom from arch source on Debian sarge Hi, @@ -5639,40 +3715,11 @@ $ make Is that enough or are there special files I have to remove by hand first? -Thanks, -Frederic - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRYvL-0002D9-75 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:09:39 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRYvJ-0002D4-JJ - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:09:37 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRYvI-0002Cg-5W - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:09:37 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRYvH-0002Cd-Um - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:09:35 -0400 -Received: from [212.27.42.29] (helo=smtp3-g19.free.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRYz4-000066-Pv - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:13:30 -0400 -Received: from melusine (pat35-1-82-231-148-189.fbx.proxad.net - [82.231.148.189]) - by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F3B49B9E - for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:09:35 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from lehobey by melusine with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) - id 1FRYvG-0002OZ-00 - for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:09:34 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:09:34 +0200 +From: Frederic Lehobey To: list Subject: Re: Compiling Axiom from arch source on Debian sarge - <200604061807.k36I7lA06061@localhost.localdomain> - <20060406175854.GB8550@melusine> -From: Frederic Lehobey Hi, @@ -5690,59 +3737,29 @@ On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 07:58:54PM +0200, Frederic Lehobey wrote: Problem still occurs. I will try later another new build from scratch (directory wiped). -Thanks, -Frederic - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRZ2O-00061P-6a - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:16:56 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRZ2M-00060r-A7 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:16:54 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRZ2H-0005uC-LT - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:16:53 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRZ2H-0005u4-G5 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:16:49 -0400 -Received: from [193.252.22.26] (helo=smtp5.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRZ64-0000vF-Ib - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:20:44 -0400 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf0503.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 413EF1C0018D - for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:16:47 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from ALille-251-1-62-252.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-62-252.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.220.252]) - by mwinf0503.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A7FA41C0018E; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:16:46 +0200 (CEST) -Subject: Re: Compiling Axiom from arch source on Debian sarge -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Frederic Lehobey - <200604061807.k36I7lA06061@localhost.localdomain> - <20060406175854.GB8550@melusine> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:17:22 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Frederic Lehobey +Subject: Re: Compiling Axiom from arch source on Debian sarge Le jeudi 06 avril 2006 =C3=A0 19:58 +0200, Frederic Lehobey a =C3=A9crit = : > Hi, ->=20 +> > On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 02:07:47PM -0400, root wrote: > > I suspect that your failure is the same as Balbir's. > > Did you stop the build and attempt to restart it? ->=20 +> > No I did not (if I remember correctly). But I am usure whether it had > really started from scratch again (I think so) after a failure for a > missing dependency (I have had two failures because of missing > dependencies and cleaned the build only once). To be sure of it I > have started a new round: ->=20 +> > $ make clean > $ make ->=20 +> > Is that enough or are there special files I have to remove by hand > first? @@ -5750,53 +3767,11 @@ See this thread: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-03/msg00112.html -Cheers, - -Greg - -> Thanks, -> Frederic ->=20 ->=20 -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer ->=20 - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRZFB-0002GE-DG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:30:09 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRZF9-0002Fm-K4 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:30:07 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRZF7-0002FL-85 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:30:06 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRZF7-0002FI-2Q - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:30:05 -0400 -Received: from [64.233.162.193] (helo=zproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRZIu-0002E8-Dw - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:34:00 -0400 -Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id o1so221702nzf - for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 11:30:04 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=UnVXodCGI49mK7I/AAh1/LEIr37WlcOEepCHI3ZiT5MdjcVIgVdBeEldeSZ9zPIPBiHVGtTV0eGClrOv7E2AXtLXVsGBDgWS7ky8ODrots6Gr92ErGGKiHJEVOTr9FwTuhPnqu7uVpivCIUR7f13Omayso/W0GBGR3W+O2vT6cg= -Received: by 10.36.105.17 with SMTP id d17mr1320357nzc; - Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:49:02 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.36.134.7 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 09:49:02 -0700 (PDT) +\start Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 18:49:02 +0200 From: David Mentre -To: "Frederic Lehobey" Frederic Lehobey +To: Frederic Lehobey Subject: Re: Compiling Axiom from arch source on Debian sarge -Cc: list Hello Fred, @@ -5815,45 +3790,11 @@ akefile Have you checked that the src/algebra/Makefile has the same backslash issue or a different one? There might a regression in latest awk. -Best wishes, -d. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRZFW-0002PB-Q4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:30:30 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRZFV-0002OP-Ir - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:30:29 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRZFT-0002Nq-R5 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:30:29 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRZFT-0002Nm-O0 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:30:27 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRZJG-0002IX-UI - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:34:23 -0400 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k36IUPNa010641; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:30:25 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6787F40D; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:30:25 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k36JHDn06180; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:17:13 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:17:13 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Frederic Lehobey - on Thu, 6 Apr 2006 19:58:54 +0200) Subject: Re: Compiling Axiom from arch source on Debian sarge - <200604061807.k36I7lA06061@localhost.localdomain> - <20060406175854.GB8550@melusine> -Cc: list > $ make clean > $ make @@ -5876,54 +3817,11 @@ It is actually easier to just nuke the install and refetch it. I've been meaning to fix this. I'll try to get it into the --patch-48 release. -t - - - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRaWx-0003lj-EQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:52:35 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRaWv-0003jT-Ie - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:52:33 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRaWt-0003ix-Fc - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:52:32 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRaWt-0003it-CO - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:52:31 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRaag-0002nw-R2 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:56:27 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k36JqPGr026725 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:52:25 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k36JqPYO026722; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:52:25 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:52:25 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Mathaction and Spammers - Ralf Hemmecke, - 'axiom-dev' - <00b301c65972$98816b00$6900a8c0@asus> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cGfB/trNgB3WtPHu" - clamav-milter version 0.87 on moya.mcelrath.org -Cc: 'axiom-dev' - - ---cGfB/trNgB3WtPHu Bill Page [Bill Page] wrote: > On April 6, 2006 7:27 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -5958,57 +3856,11 @@ A more sophisticated, long-term solution is to add code to ZWiki to check against SURBL: http://www.surbl.org/ (Spam URI Realtime Blocklists) --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---cGfB/trNgB3WtPHu - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFENXF5jwioWRGe9K0RAr9+AKCppPuImK/hKNni40Iu4N+3SONtfACcDK44 -kK8mIY8yMwVU35jfrUQxqn0= -=Ypkb ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---cGfB/trNgB3WtPHu-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRaon-0001eA-J2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:11:01 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRaol-0001dj-Ul - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:10:59 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRaok-0001bs-8A - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:10:59 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRaok-0001bh-47 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:10:58 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.218] (helo=mails18.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRasY-0007d1-2c - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:14:54 -0400 -Received: from asus (207-61-191-200.anikast.net [207.61.191.200]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails18.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k36KAb4C015082; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 16:10:49 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Bob McElrath'" -Subject: RE: Mathaction and Spammers +\start Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 16:10:29 -0400 - charset="US-ASCII" -Cc: 'axiom-dev' +From: Bill Page +To: Bob McElrath +Subject: RE: Mathaction and Spammers Bob, @@ -6041,51 +3893,11 @@ if that cures the problem ... I guess that means I am going to have to get around to updating the ZWiki code on MathAction, right? :) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRbT2-0001sX-W1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:52:37 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRbT1-0001rv-4a - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:52:35 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRbT0-0001r3-Ds - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:52:34 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRbT0-0001qz-Ae - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:52:34 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRbWo-0004Zo-Fy - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:56:30 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k36KqT9g027302 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:52:29 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k36KqTZn027299; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:52:29 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:52:29 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Mathaction and Spammers - Ralf Hemmecke, - 'axiom-dev' - <00d501c659b6$2b1d53a0$6900a8c0@asus> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aC33ObtQAkNdOZ6b" -Cc: 'axiom-dev' - - ---aC33ObtQAkNdOZ6b Bill Page [Bill Page] wrote: > > A more sophisticated, long-term solution is to add code to @@ -6102,59 +3914,11 @@ existed a "stable" release for it that would be better. I have 0.42 on my machine. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---aC33ObtQAkNdOZ6b - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFENX+NjwioWRGe9K0RArCfAJwLuICl2QMH2Imux3Foyiz5r2diTwCgnJco -TWKOcls81Jk/GPRnMZFSqFQ= -=OB7g ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---aC33ObtQAkNdOZ6b-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRbuf-0004Sv-Oe - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:21:09 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRbue-0004ST-Be - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:21:08 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRbuc-0004Ro-40 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:21:07 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRbub-0004Rf-Ry - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:21:05 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRbyQ-0006YJ-EA - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:25:02 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k36LL1xY005819 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 23:21:02 +0200 +\start Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 23:21:33 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Latex Package problem - <200604061733.k36HX2H05961@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list Mine says @@ -6174,40 +3938,10 @@ Ralf On 04/06/2006 07:33 PM, root wrote: > It appears that your hyperref package does not match my hyperref package. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRc0z-0006Gu-Ey - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:27:41 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRc0x-0006GL-Up - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:27:39 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRc0w-0006Fh-IP - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:27:39 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRc0w-0006Fd-B8 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:27:38 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRc4l-0006zm-61 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:31:35 -0400 -Received: from mua-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k36LRaHN019135; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 17:27:37 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-1.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39587F412; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 17:27:36 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k36MEPo06341; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 18:14:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 18:14:25 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Camm Maguire -Cc: list Subject: gcl-2.6.7 on debian Camm, @@ -6223,55 +3957,14 @@ sed: file conftest.s1 line 61: unterminated `s' command creating windows/install.lsp sed: file conftest.s1 line 61: unterminated `s' command - -suggestions? - -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRdDP-0004Wr-FS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:44:35 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRdDO-0004Wi-GF - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:44:34 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRdDL-0004WW-Fb - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:44:33 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRdDL-0004WT-9n - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:44:31 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRdH9-0003Ay-VF - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:48:28 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599FA40E21; - Fri, 7 Apr 2006 00:44:26 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k36MgttZ030317; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 00:42:55 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k36MgtHR030316; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 00:42:55 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 07 Apr 2006 00:42:55 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: SCM discussion (silver branch?) - - <44342010.1000603@hemmecke.de> - - <4434DB4F.1000905@hemmecke.de> - - <20060406130939.GB6088@melusine> - - <200604061528.k36FS7u05864@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 07 Apr 2006 00:42:55 +0200 -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, list +Cc: Frederic Lehobey -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | Gaby, | @@ -6300,79 +3993,19 @@ That is great! Many thanks for the confidence vote. I count on your expertise for reviews :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRgW6-0006VA-EE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:16:06 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRgW4-0006Uu-Dq - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:16:04 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRgVz-0006UR-SE - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:16:03 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRgVz-0006UO-P5 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:15:59 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRgZr-0005rh-GI - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:19:59 -0400 -Received: from mua-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k372FweE008319 - for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 22:15:58 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-1.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780CE7F417 - for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 22:15:58 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3732kw06405; - Thu, 6 Apr 2006 23:02:46 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 23:02:46 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: offline I'll be offline and unavailable until Tuesday. Talk amongst yourselves :-) -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRj4p-0000FV-HA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 01:00:07 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRewW-0008K3-9i - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:35:16 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRewU-0008Jr-PS - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:35:15 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRewU-0008Jo-J6 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:35:14 -0400 -Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1FRf0L-0000u8-17 - for list; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:39:13 -0400 -Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRewI-00080E-Co - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 02:35:02 +0200 -Received: from 69-160-148-143.vnnyca.adelphia.net ([69.160.148.143]) - by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) - id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 - for ; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 02:35:02 +0200 -Received: from simon by 69-160-148-143.vnnyca.adelphia.net with local (Gmexim - 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 - for ; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 02:35:02 +0200 -To: list -From: Simon Michael Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:24:58 -0700 - <00b301c65972$98816b00$6900a8c0@asus> +From: Simon Michael +To: list Subject: Re: Mathaction and Spammers Hi all, @@ -6383,47 +4016,12 @@ race. Bill, you probably know about the recent edits_need_username feature able to achieve the same if you keep up with the more recent Zwiki versions, chat me if I can help in any way. -Best --Simon -Zwiki lead developer - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRnhH-000461-OX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 05:56:07 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRnhG-00045k-9m - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 05:56:06 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRnhE-00045Y-Gp - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 05:56:05 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRnhE-00045V-D9 - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 05:56:04 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRnlA-00028l-Ct - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 06:00:08 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234AC40FAA - for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:56:02 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k379sRtZ001313 - for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:54:28 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k379sRX6001312; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:54:27 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 07 Apr 2006 11:54:27 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: Axiom silver branch - Hello, As you now, Tim set up an SVN server for accessing the "silver branch" @@ -6455,50 +4053,15 @@ you -- for organizing the SVN repository: I'll write a doc about how to create a branch, how to merge, etc. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRnsh-0007a9-SX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 06:07:55 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRnsg-0007Z1-Ql - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 06:07:54 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRnsf-0007WU-5G - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 06:07:54 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRnsf-0007WL-0f - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 06:07:53 -0400 -Received: from [64.233.162.192] (helo=zproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRnwb-0002n6-0p - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 06:11:57 -0400 -Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id n29so343707nzf - for ; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 03:07:52 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=TGJNCnpb2JgBq7EqXBLppI/giwRyC7Mzbq61hr+My6Ay5hUFb2DLNFXBnxiL/9khJpN1SwKKMToKwRLoo2xqZRlEDS6VL31KxXmZNHYC8r9uvPOlp8TR8emoNKXWwcrAVdzJL0HOzDjt4qT1ISAzT6VF03CKo55kSChJWohcpL0= -Received: by 10.36.196.13 with SMTP id t13mr402623nzf; - Fri, 07 Apr 2006 03:07:51 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.36.134.7 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 03:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:07:51 +0200 From: David Mentre To: list Subject: Fwd: Axiom silver branch - <3d13dcfc0604070307x61ac8310wb3171ab4dfd01926@mail.gmail.com> Oops, forgot the list. -d. - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- -From: David MENTRE David Mentre -Date: 7 avr. 2006 12:07 -Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch -To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Hello Gaby, @@ -6521,40 +4084,11 @@ h". Ok for me as long as all of this is documented (i.e. meaning of each part of the svn hierarchy) somewhere on the wiki. -Best wishes, -d. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRpI4-0008Pw-Tb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 07:38:12 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRpI3-0008P3-On - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 07:38:11 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRpI1-0008Lo-Fp - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 07:38:10 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRpI1-0008Lk-A1 - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 07:38:09 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRpLy-0001ho-8q - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 07:42:14 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k37Bc3xY026273 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:38:03 +0200 Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 13:38:58 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: David MENTRE David Mentre +To: David Mentre Subject: Re: Fwd: Axiom silver branch - <3d13dcfc0604070307v664f7e01tad7318756cdd2803@mail.gmail.com> -Cc: list Also OK for me, but we should somewhere (either sourceforge or better on the AxiomWiki) keep a list of branches (similar (or better) than @@ -6564,21 +4098,12 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/ArchUsage) and what are they good for axiom-dev will be automatically informed if something is changed on the wiki so we all can keep track about who works on which branch. -Ralf - - - On 04/07/2006 12:07 PM, David MENTRE wrote: > Oops, forgot the list. > > d. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- -> From: David MENTRE David Mentre -> Date: 7 avr. 2006 12:07 -> Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch -> To: Gabriel Dos Reis -> > > Hello Gaby, > @@ -6598,53 +4123,12 @@ On 04/07/2006 12:07 PM, David MENTRE wrote: > > Ok for me as long as all of this is documented (i.e. meaning of each > part of the svn hierarchy) somewhere on the wiki. -> -> Best wishes, -> d. -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRpT8-0006Ic-NK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 07:49:38 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRpT7-0006GN-7p - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 07:49:37 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRpT5-0006D6-7a - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 07:49:36 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRpT5-0006Cw-4o - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 07:49:35 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRpX2-0003RT-6W - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 07:53:40 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF7E40E22 - for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:49:33 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k37BlxtZ001750 - for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:47:59 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k37Blxj2001749; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:47:59 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 07 Apr 2006 13:47:59 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: list Subject: Re: Fwd: Axiom silver branch - <3d13dcfc0604070307x61ac8310wb3171ab4dfd01926@mail.gmail.com> - <3d13dcfc0604070307v664f7e01tad7318756cdd2803@mail.gmail.com> - <44364F52.9040808@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 07 Apr 2006 13:47:59 +0200 Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -6661,40 +4145,11 @@ Very good points, and I totally agree. I'll write more on the procedures and post it to the list. I hope to have a connection tonight. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRqm0-00059M-A8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:13:12 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRqlx-00053x-Sp - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:13:10 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRqlt-0004qw-9Y - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:13:09 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRqlt-0004qS-2Z - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:13:05 -0400 -Received: from [212.27.42.30] (helo=smtp4-g19.free.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRqpr-0002fO-3p - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:17:11 -0400 -Received: from melusine (pat35-1-82-231-148-189.fbx.proxad.net - [82.231.148.189]) - by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8186054B3B; - Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:13:03 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from lehobey by melusine with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) - id 1FRqlq-0001xV-00; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:13:02 +0200 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:13:02 +0200 -To: root Tim Daly -Subject: Re: Compiling Axiom from arch source on Debian sarge - <200604061807.k36I7lA06061@localhost.localdomain> - <20060406175854.GB8550@melusine> - <200604061917.k36JHDn06180@localhost.localdomain> From: Frederic Lehobey -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: Compiling Axiom from arch source on Debian sarge Hi, @@ -6714,35 +4169,11 @@ Seems it worked for me (compilation goes further). Thanks. Thanks also to Greg for pointing a very recent thread on the same problem. Frederic - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRqyT-0003dh-4R - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:26:05 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRqyR-0003dc-S5 - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:26:03 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRqyP-0003dP-G7 - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:26:02 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRqyP-0003dL-5P - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:26:01 -0400 -Received: from [212.27.42.35] (helo=smtp5-g19.free.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRr2N-0003kS-AF - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:30:07 -0400 -Received: from melusine (pat35-1-82-231-148-189.fbx.proxad.net - [82.231.148.189]) - by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605C0275A4 - for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:25:59 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from lehobey by melusine with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) - id 1FRqyN-0001z1-00 - for ; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:25:59 +0200 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:25:59 +0200 +From: Frederic Lehobey To: list Subject: Re: Latex Package problem -From: Frederic Lehobey Hi, @@ -6773,38 +4204,11 @@ Transcript written in bookvol1.ilg. This is weird as Camm package successfully backports to sarge... -Frederic - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRr9L-0008QQ-8o - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:37:19 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRr9J-0008ON-DH - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:37:17 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRr9H-0008N9-5V - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:37:16 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRr9G-0008N5-VA - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:37:14 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRrDF-0004Zz-23 - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:41:21 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k37DbCxY030233 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:37:12 +0200 Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:38:07 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Frederic Lehobey Subject: Re: Latex Package problem -Cc: list To be honest, when I compiled axiom--main--1 I also realized that "pressing enter" did not help. I had to press "q". @@ -6853,88 +4257,25 @@ On 04/07/2006 03:25 PM, Frederic Lehobey wrote: > > > This is weird as Camm package successfully backports to sarge... -> -> Frederic -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRrTo-00013c-RF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:58:28 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRrTn-00013V-9g - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:58:27 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRrTk-00013I-Ub - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:58:25 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRrTk-00013F-O7 - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:58:24 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRrXj-0006OI-3M - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:02:31 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9646240F97; - Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:58:22 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k37DumtZ002200; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:56:48 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k37Dum1i002197; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:56:48 +0200 -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 07 Apr 2006 15:53:54 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page Subject: Editing wiki frontpage - Hi Bill, How does one edit the wiki front-page? What I'm interested is to put a link from the front-page to a separate page that documents the SVN source code is organized and how to do check outs and check ins. -Thanks, - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRrWE-0001gJ-9o - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:00:58 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRrWC-0001fT-Q8 - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:00:56 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRrWB-0001dB-1v - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:00:56 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRrWA-0001cw-TV - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:00:54 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.217] (helo=mails17.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRra9-0006ay-8R - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:05:01 -0400 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails17.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k37E0Qwr024643; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:00:44 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: Latex Package problem Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:00:08 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, Frederic Lehobey +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: Latex Package problem +Cc: Frederic Lehobey On April 7, 2006 9:38 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > @@ -6981,38 +4322,10 @@ works for me. See: http://www.tug.org/PSTricks/main.cgi?file=pdf/pdfoutput -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRrj3-0008GE-RT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:14:13 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRrj3-0008G1-20 - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:14:13 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRrj0-0008Fn-Ga - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:14:11 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRrj0-0008Fk-95 - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:14:10 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.218] (helo=mails18.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRrmy-00081f-VF - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:18:17 -0400 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails18.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k37EDjJC010951; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:14:04 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:13:23 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: Editing wiki frontpage Gaby, @@ -7036,41 +4349,12 @@ On the other hand, if all you would like is a link on the FrontPage, then just let me know the page name you want and I will add the link for you. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRrnt-0000vB-FL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:19:13 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRrns-0000v6-4E - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:19:12 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRrnq-0000ur-Gz - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:19:11 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRrnq-0000um-BO - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:19:10 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRrro-0000UP-UV - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:23:17 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k37EJ8xY031712 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:19:08 +0200 Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:20:03 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Latex Package problem -Cc: list, Frederic Lehobey +Cc: Frederic Lehobey Hi @@ -7106,38 +4390,11 @@ The page is not totally clear. What should the "true" after final stand for? Sorry, I meant "pdflatex" does not produce anything nice. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRs1Y-00087v-Qc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:33:20 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRs1X-00087p-M6 - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:33:19 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRs1V-00087O-PN - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:33:18 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRs1V-00087L-It - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:33:17 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRs5U-0001ZB-7I - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:37:24 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k37EXFxY032124 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) - for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:33:15 +0200 Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:34:11 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: list Subject: Re: Latex Package problem - <44367513.8060308@hemmecke.de> As I told you before my (standard debian) hyperref.sty is @@ -7167,37 +4424,11 @@ following code that is not in 6.73n. So in order to avoid problems for poor Debian users, I would suggest to simply remove "final". I believe that will not affect the output in any way. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRsD3-0004tl-B3 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:45:13 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRsD2-0004tc-Gl - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:45:12 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRsCz-0004sn-BH - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:45:11 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRsCz-0004sk-6K - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:45:09 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.218] (helo=mails18.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRsGy-0002X4-26 - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:49:16 -0400 -Received: from asus (207-61-191-200.anikast.net [207.61.191.200]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails18.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k37EilrI016808; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:45:02 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: Latex Package problem Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:44:36 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: Latex Package problem Ralf, @@ -7230,39 +4461,10 @@ Or better: Maybe someone could commit a change to the new SVN silver archive ... (remember to add a sentence to the pamphlet file explaining the change). -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRsQk-0002rQ-F6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:59:22 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRsQj-0002rL-EY - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:59:21 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRsQh-0002r8-Pb - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:59:21 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRsQh-0002r5-Ky - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:59:19 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRsUg-00043O-Dq - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 11:03:26 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k37ExHxY001434 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) - for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:59:17 +0200 Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:00:12 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: axiom-dev +To: list Subject: Re: ActiveAxiomDevelopers Hello core axiom developers -- whatever that means ;-) @@ -7278,37 +4480,11 @@ each other. All the best -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRtGD-00033K-2j - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 11:52:33 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRtGB-00031x-8Q - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 11:52:31 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRtG6-00030Y-Jy - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 11:52:29 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRtG6-00030O-HK - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 11:52:26 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.217] (helo=mails17.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRtK5-00008k-Vb - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 11:56:34 -0400 -Received: from asus (207-61-191-200.anikast.net [207.61.191.200]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails17.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k37Fq2qE012685; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:52:18 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Gabriel Dos Reis'" Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: RE: Axiom silver branch Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:51:49 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: Axiom silver branch > ... > That repository as far as I can tell contains all of current Axiom @@ -7341,48 +4517,12 @@ to findout? A subsequent 'update' fails apparently at the same point. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRtYv-00045i-PF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:11:53 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRtHW-0003jj-MA - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 11:53:54 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRtHS-0003ix-Nn - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 11:53:54 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRtHS-0003iu-KH - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 11:53:50 -0400 -Received: from [195.188.213.5] (helo=smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRtLR-0000G8-UA - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 11:57:58 -0400 -Received: from [172.23.170.140] (helo=anti-virus02-07) - by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1FRtHQ-0006k2-6r - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:53:48 +0100 -Received: from [82.45.185.137] (helo=CharalambosG) - by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1FRtHP-0001WG-GI - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:53:47 +0100 -From: "Harry" -To: Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:53:35 +0100 - boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C65A63.D034EF30" +From: Harry Georgiou +To: list Subject: how to install -This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - -------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C65A63.D034EF30 - charset="us-ascii" - I have windows XP SP2 how do I install and use axiom on ,y machine from the desktop or do I need to go into Dos-Prompt @@ -7390,112 +4530,11 @@ Yours faithfully Charalambos Georgiou - -------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C65A63.D034EF30 - charset="us-ascii" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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I have windows XP SP2 how do I install and use = -axiom on -,y machine from the desktop or do I need to go into = -Dos-Prompt

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Yours faithfully

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- - - - - -------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C65A63.D034EF30-- - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRtap-0005Li-Dd - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:13:51 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRtao-0005LG-BG - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:13:50 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRtan-0005K1-0t - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:13:49 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRtam-0005Jh-P0 - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:13:48 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRtem-00023D-Dv - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:17:56 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k37GDkxY003282 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 7 Apr 2006 18:13:46 +0200 +\start Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 18:14:41 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch -Cc: axiom-dev svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/axiom/trunk silver-branch [snip] @@ -7540,47 +4579,12 @@ On 04/07/2006 05:51 PM, Bill Page wrote: > to findout? > > A subsequent 'update' fails apparently at the same point. -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRthI-0002rJ-3C - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:20:32 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRthF-0002qm-Sm - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:20:29 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRthD-0002q7-3e - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:20:29 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRthD-0002q4-0r - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:20:27 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.210] (helo=mails10.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRtlC-0003UZ-TP - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:24:35 -0400 -Received: from asus (207-61-191-200.anikast.net [207.61.191.200]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails10.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k37GJuen015092; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:20:22 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Harry'" -Subject: RE: how to install Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:19:44 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Harry Georgiou +Subject: RE: how to install On Sent: April 7, 2006 11:54 AM Charalambos Georgiou wrote: @@ -7595,41 +4599,11 @@ specifically download the Windows installation program here: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomDownload#windows -Regards, -Bill Page - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRthQ-0002xn-7J - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:20:40 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRthN-0002ud-NG - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:20:37 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRthM-0002tm-TL - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:20:37 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRthM-0002tc-KL - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:20:36 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.210] (helo=mails10.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRtlM-0003Vs-Fz - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:24:44 -0400 -Received: from asus (207-61-191-200.anikast.net [207.61.191.200]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails10.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k37GJueo015092; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:20:26 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Harry'" -Subject: RE: how to install Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:19:44 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Harry Georgiou +Subject: RE: how to install On Sent: April 7, 2006 11:54 AM Charalambos Georgiou wrote: @@ -7644,41 +4618,11 @@ specifically download the Windows installation program here: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomDownload#windows -Regards, -Bill Page - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRu8G-00017v-1S - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:48:24 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRu8F-00016o-02 - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:48:23 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRu8D-00015P-El - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:48:22 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRu8D-000154-2t - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:48:21 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.218] (helo=mails18.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRuCC-00076H-UX - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:52:29 -0400 -Received: from asus (207-61-191-200.anikast.net [207.61.191.200]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails18.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k37Glxpt006577; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:48:14 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: Axiom silver branch Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:47:46 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-dev' +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: Axiom silver branch On April 7, 2006 12:15 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > @@ -7704,41 +4648,11 @@ Yes. You must be registered on SourceForce as an Axiom developer, then if you attempt an svn commit to the archive you will be prompted for your SourceForge user id and password. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRvnQ-00006W-Eg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:35:00 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRvnO-00006E-GI - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:34:58 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRvnM-000062-0N - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:34:57 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRvnL-00005z-Rs - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:34:55 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRvrM-0007Ty-S2 - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:39:05 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k37IYnxY006853 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 7 Apr 2006 20:34:53 +0200 Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 20:35:44 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch -Cc: 'axiom-dev' >> Is now someone telling me that I can commit to that branch through >> "https"? If yes, under which name will my commit appear? @@ -7749,37 +4663,11 @@ Cc: 'axiom-dev' Well, a have a sf account, but how do I become an "Axiom developer"? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRw55-0007Sg-2Q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:53:15 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRw52-0007RH-IL - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:53:12 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRw50-0007Pj-8M - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:53:11 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRw50-0007Pg-5X - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:53:10 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRw91-0000gR-AX - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:57:19 -0400 -Received: from asus (207-61-191-200.anikast.net [207.61.191.200]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k37IqoP2002756; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:53:03 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: Axiom silver branch Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:52:40 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-dev' +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: Axiom silver branch On April 7, 2006 2:36 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > @@ -7798,41 +4686,11 @@ Just ask either me or Tim Daly. :) I have added you as a developer with SVN access right at the Axiom project on SourceForge . -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRwAr-0000UA-V9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:59:13 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRwAq-0000TZ-AH - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:59:12 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRwAo-0000SV-Er - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:59:11 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRwAo-0000SM-Bv - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:59:10 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRwEp-0001FH-Dd - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:03:19 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k37Ix0xY007440 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 7 Apr 2006 20:59:01 +0200 Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 20:59:55 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch -Cc: list Hi Gaby, @@ -7901,44 +4759,13 @@ Sourceforge tools to maintain such a webpage? Thank you that you took over this job. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRxWj-0007od-TA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:25:53 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRxWi-0007oW-Mf - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:25:52 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRxWh-0007oK-B7 - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:25:51 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRxWh-0007oH-3c - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:25:51 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRxaj-0007ED-Bo - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:30:01 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA7440E9F; - Fri, 7 Apr 2006 22:25:48 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k37KODtZ003433; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 22:24:13 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k37KODbm003432; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 22:24:13 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 07 Apr 2006 22:24:13 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | > ... | > That repository as far as I can tell contains all of current Axiom @@ -7964,43 +4791,11 @@ and But, I'm a SuSE Linux user and I built subversion 1.3.1 myself -- I don't think that should matter. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRxZH-0008Nu-Ku - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:28:31 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRxZG-0008Np-3t - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:28:30 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRxZD-0008NY-Cl - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:28:29 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRxZD-0008NV-9l - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:28:27 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRxdF-0007M2-J1 - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:32:37 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A9340E21; - Fri, 7 Apr 2006 22:28:25 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k37KQotZ003451; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 22:26:50 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k37KQoQw003450; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 22:26:50 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 07 Apr 2006 22:26:50 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch - <44368FF1.4040707@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 07 Apr 2006 22:26:50 +0200 -Cc: axiom-dev Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -8023,44 +4818,13 @@ access. More on that when Tim is back and we sort out the procedure. The idea is that people with write access should commit their own patch after review (and of course testing). --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRxai-0000mB-6a - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:30:00 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRxaf-0000jz-Hc - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:29:57 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRxad-0000j5-Jw - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:29:56 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRxad-0000iy-Ch - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:29:55 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRxef-0007Qf-KQ - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:34:05 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46E640E27; - Fri, 7 Apr 2006 22:29:52 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k37KSHtZ003455; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 22:28:18 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k37KSHfg003454; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 22:28:17 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 07 Apr 2006 22:28:17 +0200 -Cc: 'axiom-dev' +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On April 7, 2006 2:36 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: | > @@ -8084,43 +4848,11 @@ Great! We should have a list of people with write access to the repository somewhere. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRxm5-0005wl-W9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:41:46 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRxm4-0005w8-EP - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:41:44 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRxm3-0005vp-QX - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:41:44 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRxm3-0005vm-OL - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:41:43 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRxq5-0008Gc-VA - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:45:54 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B5C4F3A0; - Fri, 7 Apr 2006 22:41:29 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k37Ke5tZ003493; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 22:40:06 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k37Ke5pO003492; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 22:40:05 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 07 Apr 2006 22:40:05 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch - <4436B6AB.6080802@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 07 Apr 2006 22:40:05 +0200 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -8206,40 +4938,11 @@ to "chase" the information. As I said, I'm on a trip and I don't expect to much time and connectivity to do that before two weeks. But, I'm workign on it. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRxxB-0003Sa-50 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:53:13 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRxx9-0003SE-55 - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:53:11 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRxx7-0003Rg-4l - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:53:10 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRxx7-0003RZ-1P - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:53:09 -0400 -Received: from [193.252.22.28] (helo=smtp3.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FRy18-0000hL-VB - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:57:19 -0400 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf0307.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EC8201C001F0 - for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 22:53:03 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from ALille-251-1-93-232.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-93-232.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.90.232]) - by mwinf0307.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7874B1C001E3; - Fri, 7 Apr 2006 22:53:03 +0200 (CEST) -Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Gabriel Dos Reis - <4436B6AB.6080802@hemmecke.de> - Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 22:53:43 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch Le vendredi 07 avril 2006 =C3=A0 22:40 +0200, Gabriel Dos Reis a =C3=A9cr= it : @@ -8249,51 +4952,11 @@ it : Probably the patch #47 branch since macroexpandall is not modified... -Cheers, - -Greg - ->=20 -> -- Gaby ->=20 ->=20 -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer ->=20 - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRykv-00012u-5c - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:44:37 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRykt-00012V-Lu - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:44:35 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRyks-00012J-Np - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:44:34 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRyks-00012G-Hb - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:44:34 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FRyov-0004D8-GK - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:48:45 -0400 -Received: from asus (207-61-191-200.anikast.net [207.61.191.200]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k37Li5U6000975; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:44:25 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +\start +Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:43:54 -0400 +From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: Axiom silver branch -Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:43:54 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-dev' On April 7, 2006 4:28 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > ... @@ -8309,40 +4972,11 @@ yet. Tim and I just have not had time... Take a look around and see what you think we can use best. E.g. They have a pretty neat server farm for producing binaries on various platforms. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRzwA-0002wC-0D - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 19:00:18 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRzw9-0002w3-8v - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 19:00:17 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FRzw7-0002vH-J2 - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 19:00:16 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRzw7-0002v0-Fi - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 19:00:15 -0400 -Received: from [68.168.78.202] (helo=mta10.adelphia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FS00B-00085q-38 - for list; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 19:04:27 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.0.2] (really [24.53.124.201]) by mta10.adelphia.net - (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP - id <20060407230010.GXLO23465.mta10.adelphia.net@[192.168.0.2]>; - Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:00:10 -0400 Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 18:59:33 -0400 From: Raymond Rogers To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: FC5: rsync, lsp, 2412, etc - <200604011617.k31GH6U30230@localhost.localdomain> -OpenPGP: id=539C8F82 -Cc: list root wrote: > Ray, @@ -8358,36 +4992,10 @@ Tim, My FC5 doesn't have libXpm.a and the software selector can't find it. Any suggestions, or should I try to rebuild it? -Ray - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSGA7-0007PS-4h - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 12:19:47 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSGA5-0007PI-9i - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 12:19:45 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSGA3-0007Ov-N4 - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 12:19:45 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSGA3-0007Oq-IU - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 12:19:43 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSGEH-0005cS-Ed - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 12:24:05 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C424F3C1; - Sat, 8 Apr 2006 18:19:31 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from fmy by localhost.localdomain with local (Exim 4.60) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1FSGA0-0001lY-7h; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 18:19:40 +0200 -To: list, Francois Maltey -From: Francois Maltey Date: 08 Apr 2006 18:19:39 +0200 -Cc: +From: Francois Maltey +To: list Subject: I can't test if %i exists or not. hello, @@ -8399,91 +5007,62 @@ I want to know if the expressions have the Complex notion or not. In this package I can add the function : ifComplex : F -> Boolean - ifComplex (arg) =3D=3D + ifComplex (arg) == (R is Complex Integer) or (R is Complex Fraction Integer) _ or (R is Fraction Complex Integer) the arg has no use, but with this arg I can test the function ifComplex in the interpreter for a given expression. -I re^10-read previous mails about the qestion,=20 +I re^10-read previous mails about the qestion, and the wiki page SandBoxManipulatingDomains, but... -1/ I can't find a better function than ifComplex for the test=20 -<< %i exists in Expression >>.=20 +1/ I can't find a better function than ifComplex for the test +<< %i exists in Expression >>. Even if theses cases are the more current, they aren't all the cases. -2/ I can neither get %i (or imaginary()$R) in F, nor get=20 -imag(expr) in a *.spad file although it's possible in interpreter=20 +2/ I can neither get %i (or imaginary()$R) in F, nor get +imag(expr) in a *.spad file although it's possible in interpreter thanks to the file efstruc.spad (?). In manip.spad my testing function is testing : F -> F -testing arg =3D=3D ... +testing arg == ... I can't compile : -testing arg =3D=3D=20 - dom(arg)=3Ddevaluate(Expression Complex Integer)$Lisp =3D> 999::R::F +testing arg == + dom(arg)=devaluate(Expression Complex Integer)$Lisp => 999::R::F arg -the test is always false=20 -testing arg =3D=3D=20 - F has ComplexCategory R =3D> imaginary()::F +the test is always false +testing arg == + F has ComplexCategory R => imaginary()::F arg it's right for Complex Integer -testing arg =3D=3D=20 - R is Complex Integer =3D> 987::Integer::R::F +testing arg == + R is Complex Integer => 987::Integer::R::F arg but then I can't hold the << %i >> number. -testing arg =3D=3D=20 - R is Complex Integer =3D> (imaginary()$Complex Integer)::F=20 +testing arg == + R is Complex Integer => (imaginary()$Complex Integer)::F arg -When I run I get=20 +When I run I get >> System error: Caught fatal error [memory may be damaged] May you give me one of the keys ? I ignore where I shall look ? Is there any link with SExpressions... -Thanks a lot. - -Fran=C3=A7ois - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSH8g-0000GA-Rt - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:22:22 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSH8f-0000Fs-K6 - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:22:21 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSH8d-0000Bi-Kq - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:22:20 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSH8d-0000BY-IK - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:22:19 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FSHCr-0000d2-TL - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:26:42 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k38HMEFT014799 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sat, 8 Apr 2006 19:22:14 +0200 +\start Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:23:16 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Francois Maltey Subject: Re: I can't test if %i exists or not. -Cc: axiom-dev On 04/08/2006 06:19 PM, Francois Maltey wrote: > hello, @@ -8559,143 +5138,55 @@ efstruc.spad) implemented in Axiom. Unfortunately nobody knows. :-( Have you somewhere opened a WikiPage that explains your plan in clear terms. Posting on axiom-dev is not always enough. -Best regards - -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSJX0-0004Lq-Rr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 15:55:38 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSJWy-0004Lh-Ev - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 15:55:36 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSJWx-0004LU-Op - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 15:55:36 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSJWx-0004LL-Hn - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 15:55:35 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.106] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSJbD-0000ts-Bj - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 15:59:59 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4C040E2D; - Sat, 8 Apr 2006 21:55:33 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from fmy by localhost.localdomain with local (Exim 4.60) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1FSJWu-000203-RI; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 21:55:32 +0200 +Date: 08 Apr 2006 21:55:32 +0200 +From: Francois Maltey To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: I can't test if %i exists or not. - <4437F184.7060103@hemmecke.de> -From: Francois Maltey -Date: 08 Apr 2006 21:55:32 +0200 -Cc: axiom-dev Hello Ralf, > I would guess that with a bit of luck you can use it for your test. > (Simply test "not zero? imag f".) But maybe for that the argument ->=20 +> > F: AlgebraicallyClosedField ->=20 +> > is decisive. This is THE good idea, I make good tests with : - F has AlgebraicallyClosedField and R has imaginary:()-> R =3D> ... + F has AlgebraicallyClosedField and R has imaginary:()-> R => ... So you advise me to look at *.pamphlet files. The first aim is perhaps to explain from A to Z how Expressions works, -in the pamphlet files.=20 +in the pamphlet files. I can do nothing interesting before I really understand how expressions are. -But can you show me a good *.pamphlet file.=20 +But can you show me a good *.pamphlet file. All the *.pamphlet file I see only have source data and copyright data. -Best regards - -Fran=C3=A7ois - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSJzE-0000De-NS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:24:48 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSJzD-0000DZ-AH - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:24:47 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSJzB-0000DM-4q - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:24:45 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSJzA-0000DJ-VP - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:24:45 -0400 -Received: from [212.27.42.30] (helo=smtp4-g19.free.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSK3R-0002if-75 - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:29:09 -0400 -Received: from melusine (pat35-1-82-231-148-189.fbx.proxad.net - [82.231.148.189]) - by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CBC53C14 - for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 22:24:43 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from lehobey by melusine with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) - id 1FSJz9-0001vk-00 - for ; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 22:24:43 +0200 +\start Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 22:24:43 +0200 -To: Axiom developers - <4437F184.7060103@hemmecke.de> - <8764lj266j.fsf@localhost.localdomain> From: Frederic Lehobey +To: Axiom developers Subject: Example pamphlet file Hi, On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 09:55:32PM +0200, Francois Maltey wrote: -> But can you show me a good *.pamphlet file.=20 +> But can you show me a good *.pamphlet file. > All the *.pamphlet file I see only have source data and copyright data. Tim often gives dhmatrix.spad.pamphlet as an example. -Best regards, -Fr=E9d=E9ric - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSK9B-0004aU-Fz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:35:05 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSK99-0004aN-Ct - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:35:03 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSK97-0004a5-4t - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:35:02 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSK97-0004a2-04 - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:35:01 -0400 -Received: from [212.27.42.36] (helo=smtp6-g19.free.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSKDN-0003DZ-4j - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:39:25 -0400 -Received: from melusine (pat35-1-82-231-148-189.fbx.proxad.net - [82.231.148.189]) - by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4A8221D9 - for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 22:35:00 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from lehobey by melusine with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) - id 1FSK8k-0001wK-00 - for ; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 22:34:38 +0200 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 22:34:38 +0200 -To: Axiom developers -Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch - <000001c65a5b$36c546e0$6900a8c0@asus> From: Frederic Lehobey +To: list +Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch Hi, @@ -8705,7 +5196,7 @@ On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 11:51:49AM -0400, Bill Page wrote: > but after transferring about 30 Mbytes it gives me the following > error message: ->=20 +> > Error REPORT request failed on '/svnroot/axiom/!svn/vcc/default' > Error REPORT of '/svnroot/axiom/!svn/vcc/default': > Could not read response body: @@ -8726,7 +5217,7 @@ I have tried this something like 10 times. And for the 1 or 2 times it completed, I got the following error after make: ---------------------------------------------------------------- -$ LANG=3DC make +$ LANG=C make 13 making noweb tar: Skipping to next header tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers @@ -8755,40 +5246,11 @@ problems). It might also simply be sourceforge too overloaded. -Best regards, -Fr=E9d=E9ric - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSKs5-0000il-4R - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:21:29 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSKs3-0000he-8b - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:21:27 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSKs1-0000gN-Ai - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:21:26 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSKs1-0000gH-66 - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:21:25 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FSKwH-00063Q-Qn - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:25:50 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k38LLLFT021446 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sat, 8 Apr 2006 23:21:21 +0200 Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:22:25 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Francois Maltey Subject: Re: I can't test if %i exists or not. - <8764lj266j.fsf@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: axiom-dev On 04/08/2006 09:55 PM, Francois Maltey wrote: > This is THE good idea, I make good tests with : @@ -8834,38 +5296,13 @@ output as before. Good luck. You are the Expression EXPERT by now... or is Martin claiming that ;-) ? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSKwU-0003Xz-CV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:26:02 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSKwT-0003Xu-15 - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:26:01 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSKwQ-0003S9-70 - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:25:59 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSKwP-0003Rn-VZ - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:25:57 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.217] (helo=mails17.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FSL0g-0006HN-Q9 - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:30:22 -0400 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails17.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k38LPVvK000440; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 17:25:48 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Frederic Lehobey'" Frederic Lehobey -Subject: RE: Axiom silver branch Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 17:25:08 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'Axiom developers' - -On April 8, 2006 4:35 PM Frederic Lehobey wrote: +From: Bill Page +To: Frederic Lehobey +Subject: RE: Axiom silver branch + +On April 8, 2006 4:35 PM Frederic Lehobey wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 11:51:49AM -0400, Bill Page wrote: > @@ -8941,41 +5378,11 @@ code this way. I really think we should stop doing this. In my case I have no other problems using ssh to the sourceforge site from Windows using other software. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSLGy-0006eW-CE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:47:12 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSLGw-0006bQ-0x - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:47:10 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSLGt-0006XV-TZ - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:47:09 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSLGt-0006XC-Mc - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:47:07 -0400 -Received: from [212.27.42.35] (helo=smtp5-g19.free.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSLLA-0000Gk-HS - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:51:32 -0400 -Received: from melusine (pat35-1-82-231-148-189.fbx.proxad.net - [82.231.148.189]) - by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C7424D90 - for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 23:47:06 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from lehobey by melusine with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) - id 1FSLGs-00021q-00 - for ; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:47:06 +0200 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 23:47:06 +0200 -To: Axiom developers -Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch - <003c01c65b52$f6502050$6900a8c0@asus> From: Frederic Lehobey +To: list +Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch Hi, @@ -8983,8 +5390,8 @@ On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 05:25:08PM -0400, Bill Page wrote: > On April 8, 2006 4:35 PM Frederic Lehobey wrote: > > svn: REPORT request failed on '/svnroot/axiom/!svn/vcc/default' -> > svn: REPORT of '/svnroot/axiom/!svn/vcc/default': Could not=20 -> > read response body: Secure connection truncated=20 +> > svn: REPORT of '/svnroot/axiom/!svn/vcc/default': Could not +> > read response body: Secure connection truncated > > (https://svn.sourceforge.net) > That is very bad news. :( I was hoping that this error was @@ -8994,18 +5401,18 @@ On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 05:25:08PM -0400, Bill Page wrote: > > And for the 1 or 2 times it completed, I got the following error > > after make: -> >=20 +> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- -> > $ LANG=3DC make +> > $ LANG=C make > > 13 making noweb > > tar: Skipping to next header > > tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers > > incomplete literal tree -> > ...=20 -> >=20 +> > ... +> > > > Therefore I am not sure I can trust svn from sourceforge. > > The branch has been impossible to use so far for me. ->=20 +> > The same for me. :( I think the error above with tar file is > probably caused by the fact that the .tgz files in the current > CVS and tla archives are not properly marked as 'binary' files. @@ -9029,43 +5436,12 @@ You mean using other software than svn or on other repositories than axiom? (I believe axiom repository is a large one compared to other projects.) -Best regards, -Fr=E9d=E9ric - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSLRs-0000WU-QH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:58:28 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSLRs-0000WP-8P - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:58:28 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSLRp-0000WD-RU - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:58:26 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSLRp-0000WA-N8 - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:58:25 -0400 -Received: from [66.249.82.204] (helo=xproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSLW6-00012C-LT - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 18:02:50 -0400 -Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t4so467445wxc - for ; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 14:58:24 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; - b=qP3CakP0DqOE6fPMmwbhpIWjy9j15jvjHgtTSGSWm8md2X5x8XcX6KdVYQfk40lxsfAZc7/RK8USbCPvFv5SiX9W4O0gpkrlu9Q/W/FYVMc9pbIxMTChbxVBBIJ1qD0GOD6X88a9wdUJsugOnr4hf08kFJVgPI+ygYJK4VuC23o= -Received: by 10.70.83.13 with SMTP id g13mr2303435wxb; - Sat, 08 Apr 2006 14:58:24 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.70.131.5 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 14:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 14:58:24 -0700 -From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -To: axiom-developer - boundary="----=_Part_41044_27836253.1144533504493" +From: Antoine Hersen +To: list Subject: Bug with abbrev and aldor domain -------=_Part_41044_27836253.1144533504493 - Hello, I get a ">> System error: Value stack overflow" when I use an @@ -9080,7 +5456,7 @@ Antoine Hersen Transcript off the error : -T1 :=3D SomeDomainThatNeedToBeAbbriviated(x,F) +T1 := SomeDomainThatNeedToBeAbbriviated(x,F) (5) SomeDomainThatNeedToBeAbbriviated(x,Fraction Integer) Type: Doma= @@ -9091,7 +5467,7 @@ test: LFP Type: Vo= id -test :=3D [0,0,1/x,x/(x**2+3)] +test := [0,0,1/x,x/(x**2+3)] 1 x (7) [0,0,-,------] @@ -9100,7 +5476,7 @@ test :=3D [0,0,1/x,x/(x**2+3)] Type: List Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,Fraction Intege= r) -a1 :=3D test :: T1 +a1 := test :: T1 1 x @@ -9116,13 +5492,13 @@ r) AAA abbreviates domain SomeDomainThatNeedToBeAbbriviated -T2 :=3D AAA(x,F) +T2 := AAA(x,F) (9) SomeDomainThatNeedToBeAbbriviated(x,Fraction Integer) Type: Doma= in -a1 :=3D test :: T1 +a1 := test :: T1 Loading /home/antoine/project/dfinite_2/bug for domain SomeDomainThatNeedToBeAbbriviated @@ -9200,42 +5576,14 @@ a1 := test :: T1 T2 := AAA(x,F) a1 := test :: T1 -------=_Part_41044_27836253.1144533504493-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSMDm-0004SW-E9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 18:47:58 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSMDk-0004RM-ER - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 18:47:56 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSMDi-0004QW-L4 - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 18:47:56 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSMDi-0004QD-7o - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 18:47:54 -0400 -Received: from [212.27.42.30] (helo=smtp4-g19.free.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSMHz-0003vU-Id - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 18:52:19 -0400 -Received: from melusine (pat35-1-82-231-148-189.fbx.proxad.net - [82.231.148.189]) - by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2126853FBC - for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 00:47:53 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from lehobey by melusine with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) - id 1FSMDg-00024K-00 - for ; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:47:52 +0200 + +\start Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 00:47:52 +0200 -To: Axiom developers -Subject: Re: Latex Package problem - <002801c65a51$d239ec20$04000100@asus> From: Frederic Lehobey +To: list +Subject: Re: Latex Package problem ---mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ - Hi, On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 10:44:36AM -0400, Bill Page wrote: @@ -9243,12 +5591,12 @@ On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 10:44:36AM -0400, Bill Page wrote: > Ralf, > Good detective work! Thanks. -> =20 +> > > So in order to avoid problems for poor Debian users, > > I would suggest to simply remove "final". I believe that > > will not affect the output in any way. -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> > I think you are right. Can someone post a patch for Tim > to apply to the main branch? @@ -9286,34 +5634,10 @@ Fr=E9d=E9ric \usepackage{pst-node} \begin{document} ---mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSMTv-00055t-Fz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:04:39 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSMTu-00055n-3k - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:04:38 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSMTs-00055Y-9V - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:04:37 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSMTs-00055V-0J - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:04:36 -0400 -Received: from [68.168.78.205] (helo=mta11.adelphia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSMY9-0004m2-N7 - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:09:01 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.0.2] (really [24.53.124.201]) by mta11.adelphia.net - (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP - id <20060408230433.OMQL12719.mta11.adelphia.net@[192.168.0.2]> - for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 19:04:33 -0400 +\start Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:13:25 -0400 From: Raymond Rogers -To: Axiom-Developer -OpenPGP: id=539C8F82 +To: list Subject: FC5 success (well sort of) Finally got around to getting it running. @@ -9371,43 +5695,11 @@ chmod a+x htsearch user home: .bashrc , or /etc/profile or /etc/bashrc PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/axiom/mnt/linux/bin - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSN51-0006DF-TJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:42:59 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSN4z-0006B0-Pg - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:42:57 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSN4y-00069v-5W - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:42:57 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSN4x-00069p-VZ - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:42:56 -0400 -Received: from [66.249.82.202] (helo=xproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSN9F-0006uU-UN - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:47:22 -0400 -Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r21so465025wxc - for ; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:42:54 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; - b=KTDpKdvVALDruY4WD8o49wYZxTEwIUGTintASIZyMQZ0XtmYBpoVnX6gJ3j6A1cI8LDR7hYxbo/XWhJSWl2o+YTTZyBnNaP1XdCENegIt8Mlmy44kzBPNPHm+1jL5gdN422aErE+5y6zkiGwV9u8Br6iJ6gg3SgQpmlOgVMlSJE= -Received: by 10.70.43.2 with SMTP id q2mr3626258wxq; - Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:42:54 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.70.131.5 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 16:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 16:42:54 -0700 -From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -To: axiom-developer , - "Bill Page" Bill Page - boundary="----=_Part_41636_30350222.1144539774849" -Cc: -Subject: Patch : Remove warning message when comipiling - with aldor - -------=_Part_41636_30350222.1144539774849 +From: Antoine Hersen +To: list +Subject: Patch : Remove warning message when comipiling with aldor Hello, @@ -9480,25 +5772,25 @@ Antoine Hersen +++ ../dev/src/interp/setvars.boot.pamphlet=092006-04-07 01:28:13.000000000= -0700 @@ -317,7 +317,7 @@ - output library in which to place compiled code =20 - input controls libraries from which to load compiled code =20 - args arguments for compiling AXIOM code =20 -- -O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-AXL_W_WillObsolete=20 -+ -O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-ALDOR_W_WillObsolete=20 - -DAxiom -Y $AXIOM/algebra=20 -=20 + output library in which to place compiled code + input controls libraries from which to load compiled code + args arguments for compiling AXIOM code +- -O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-AXL_W_WillObsolete ++ -O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-ALDOR_W_WillObsolete + -DAxiom -Y $AXIOM/algebra + \end{verbatim} @@ -333,7 +333,7 @@ - <>=3D - setAsharpArgs arg =3D=3D - arg =3D "%initialize%" =3D> -- $asharpCmdlineFlags :=3D '"-O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-AXL__W__Wi= + <>= + setAsharpArgs arg == + arg = "%initialize%" => +- $asharpCmdlineFlags := '"-O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-AXL__W__Wi= llObsolete -DAxiom -Y $AXIOM/algebra" -+ $asharpCmdlineFlags :=3D '"-O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-ALDOR__W__= ++ $asharpCmdlineFlags := '"-O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-ALDOR__W__= WillObsolete -DAxiom -Y $AXIOM/algebra" - arg =3D "%display%" =3D> + arg = "%display%" => $asharpCmdlineFlags - (null arg) or (arg =3D "%describe%") or (first arg =3D '_?) =3D> + (null arg) or (arg = "%describe%") or (first arg = '_?) => @@ -2121,14 +2121,14 @@ (DEFUN |displaySetVariableSettings| (|setTree| |label|) (PROG (|setOption|= |st| |opt| |subtree| |subname|) (RETURN (SEQ (PROGN (COND ((BOOT-EQUAL |la= @@ -9509,7 +5801,7 @@ bel| (MAKESTRING " Variables")) $LINELENGTH (QUOTE | |)) (TERPRI) (|sayBrig= htly| (CONS (MAKESTRING "Variable ") (CONS (MAKESTRING "Description = ") (CONS (MAKESTRING "Current Value") NIL)))) (= SAY (|fillerSpaces| $LINELENGTH (|specialChar| (QUOTE |hbar|)))) (SPADLET |= -subtree| NIL) (DO ((#0=3D#:G2822 |setTree| (CDR #0#)) (|setData| NIL)) ((OR= +subtree| NIL) (DO ((#0=#:G2822 |setTree| (CDR #0#)) (|setData| NIL)) ((OR= (ATOM #0#) (PROGN (SETQ |setData| (CAR #0#)) NIL)) NIL) (SEQ (EXIT (COND (= (NULL (|satisfiesUserLevel| (ELT |setData| 2))) NIL) ((QUOTE T) (SPADLET |s= etOption| (|object2String| (ELT |setData| 0))) (SPADLET |setOption| (STRCON= @@ -9519,8 +5811,8 @@ fillerSpaces| (SPADDIFFERENCE 55 (|#| |setOption|)) (MAKESTRING " ")))) (SP= ADLET |st| (ELT |setData| 3)) (COND ((BOOT-EQUAL |st| (QUOTE FUNCTION)) (SP= ADLET |opt| (COND ((|functionp| (ELT |setData| 4)) (FUNCALL (ELT |setData| = 4) (QUOTE |%display%|))) ((QUOTE T) (MAKESTRING "unimplemented")))) (COND (= -(PAIRP |opt|) (SPADLET |opt| (PROG (#1=3D#:G2828) (SPADLET #1# NIL) (RETURN= - (DO ((#2=3D#:G2833 |opt| (CDR #2#)) (|o| NIL)) ((OR (ATOM #2#) (PROGN (SET= +(PAIRP |opt|) (SPADLET |opt| (PROG (#1=#:G2828) (SPADLET #1# NIL) (RETURN= + (DO ((#2=#:G2833 |opt| (CDR #2#)) (|o| NIL)) ((OR (ATOM #2#) (PROGN (SET= Q |o| (CAR #2#)) NIL)) #1#) (SEQ (EXIT (SETQ #1# (APPEND #1# (CONS |o| (CON= S (MAKESTRING " ") NIL)))))))))))) (|sayBrightly| (|concat| |setOption| (QU= OTE |%b|) |opt| (QUOTE |%d|)))) ((BOOT-EQUAL |st| (QUOTE STRING)) (SPADLET = @@ -9540,32 +5832,32 @@ MAKESTRING ")set ")) (CONS |subname| (CONS (MAKESTRING " to see what the op= tions are for") (APPEND (|bright| |subname|) (CONS (MAKESTRING ".") (CONS (= QUOTE |%l|) (CONS (MAKESTRING "For more information, issue") (APPEND (|brig= ht| (MAKESTRING ")help set")) (CONS (MAKESTRING ".") NIL)))))))))))))))))))= -=20 - ;setAsharpArgs arg =3D=3D - ; arg =3D "%initialize%" =3D> --; $asharpCmdlineFlags :=3D '"-O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-AXL__W__W= + + ;setAsharpArgs arg == + ; arg = "%initialize%" => +-; $asharpCmdlineFlags := '"-O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-AXL__W__W= illObsolete -DAxiom -Y $AXIOM/algebra" -+; $asharpCmdlineFlags :=3D '"-O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-ALDOR__W_= ++; $asharpCmdlineFlags := '"-O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-ALDOR__W_= _WillObsolete -DAxiom -Y $AXIOM/algebra" - ; arg =3D "%display%" =3D> + ; arg = "%display%" => ; $asharpCmdlineFlags - ; (null arg) or (arg =3D "%describe%") or (first arg =3D '_?) =3D> + ; (null arg) or (arg = "%describe%") or (first arg = '_?) => ; describeAsharpArgs() - ; $asharpCmdlineFlags :=3D first(arg) -=20 + ; $asharpCmdlineFlags := first(arg) + -(DEFUN |setAsharpArgs| (|arg|) (COND ((BOOT-EQUAL |arg| (QUOTE |%initializ= e%|)) (SPADLET |$asharpCmdlineFlags| (MAKESTRING "-O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxi= om -Mno-AXL_W_WillObsolete -DAxiom -Y $AXIOM/algebra"))) ((BOOT-EQUAL |arg|= (QUOTE |%display%|)) |$asharpCmdlineFlags|) ((OR (NULL |arg|) (BOOT-EQUAL = |arg| (QUOTE |%describe%|)) (BOOT-EQUAL (CAR |arg|) (QUOTE ?))) (|describeA= -sharpArgs|)) ((QUOTE T) (SPADLET |$asharpCmdlineFlags| (CAR |arg|)))))=20 +sharpArgs|)) ((QUOTE T) (SPADLET |$asharpCmdlineFlags| (CAR |arg|))))) +(DEFUN |setAsharpArgs| (|arg|) (COND ((BOOT-EQUAL |arg| (QUOTE |%initializ= e%|)) (SPADLET |$asharpCmdlineFlags| (MAKESTRING "-O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxi= om -Mno-ALDOR_W_WillObsolete -DAxiom -Y $AXIOM/algebra"))) ((BOOT-EQUAL |ar= g| (QUOTE |%display%|)) |$asharpCmdlineFlags|) ((OR (NULL |arg|) (BOOT-EQUA= L |arg| (QUOTE |%describe%|)) (BOOT-EQUAL (CAR |arg|) (QUOTE ?))) (|describ= -eAsharpArgs|)) ((QUOTE T) (SPADLET |$asharpCmdlineFlags| (CAR |arg|)))))=20 - ;describeAsharpArgs() =3D=3D +eAsharpArgs|)) ((QUOTE T) (SPADLET |$asharpCmdlineFlags| (CAR |arg|))))) + ;describeAsharpArgs() == ; sayBrightly LIST ( ; '%b,'")set compiler args ",'%d,_ --- ../axiom--main--1--patch-47/src/interp/setvart.boot.pamphlet=092006-01-= @@ -9573,23 +5865,23 @@ eAsharpArgs|)) ((QUOTE T) (SPADLET |$asharpCmdlineFlags| (CAR |arg|)))))=20 +++ ../dev/src/interp/setvart.boot.pamphlet=092006-04-07 01:33:56.000000000= -0700 @@ -107,7 +107,7 @@ - output library in which to place compiled code =20 - input controls libraries from which to load compiled code =20 - args arguments for compiling AXIOM code =20 -- -O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-AXL_W_WillObsolete=20 -+ -O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-ALDOR_W_WillObsolete=20 - -DAxiom -Y $AXIOM/algebra=20 -=20 + output library in which to place compiled code + input controls libraries from which to load compiled code + args arguments for compiling AXIOM code +- -O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-AXL_W_WillObsolete ++ -O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-ALDOR_W_WillObsolete + -DAxiom -Y $AXIOM/algebra + \end{verbatim} @@ -173,7 +173,7 @@ quotes. -=20 + The current setting is -- "-O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-AXL_W_WillObsolete=20 -+ "-O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-ALDOR_W_WillObsolete=20 - -DAxiom -Y $AXIOM/algebra"=20 +- "-O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-AXL_W_WillObsolete ++ "-O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-ALDOR_W_WillObsolete + -DAxiom -Y $AXIOM/algebra" \end{verbatim} - <>=3D + <>= @@ -186,7 +186,7 @@ STRING $asharpCmdlineFlags @@ -9602,37 +5894,11 @@ Y $AXIOM/algebra")) @ \section{expose} - -------=_Part_41636_30350222.1144539774849-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSN9C-0007xC-TW - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:47:18 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSN9B-0007wr-N3 - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:47:17 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSN9B-0007we-30 - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:47:17 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSN9A-0007wb-Tn - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:47:16 -0400 -Received: from [68.168.78.205] (helo=mta11.adelphia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSNDT-0007BS-1Z - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:51:43 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.0.2] (really [24.53.124.201]) by mta11.adelphia.net - (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP - id <20060408234716.RASY12719.mta11.adelphia.net@[192.168.0.2]>; - Sat, 8 Apr 2006 19:47:16 -0400 Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:56:25 -0400 From: Raymond Rogers -To: Raymond Rogers, Axiom-Developer +To: list Subject: Re: FC5 success (well sort of) -OpenPGP: id=539C8F82 -Cc: As I mentioned: I forgot somethings @@ -9704,41 +5970,11 @@ Raymond E. Rogers wrote: > > user home: .bashrc , or /etc/profile or /etc/bashrc > PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/axiom/mnt/linux/bin -> -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> -> - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSO58-0007v0-SH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 20:47:10 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSO57-0007ug-Hc - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 20:47:09 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSO55-0007uU-1W - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 20:47:08 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSO54-0007uR-Te; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 20:47:06 -0400 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1FSO9N-0002BC-HB; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 20:51:33 -0400 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1FSO52-00079Z-00; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 20:47:04 -0400 -To: Tim Daly -From: Camm Maguire Date: 08 Apr 2006 20:47:04 -0400 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: gcl-2.6.7 on debian Greetings! @@ -9750,7 +5986,7 @@ needs work :-). Take care, -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: > Camm, > @@ -9764,51 +6000,14 @@ root Tim Daly writes: > sed: file conftest.s1 line 61: unterminated `s' command > creating windows/install.lsp > sed: file conftest.s1 line 61: unterminated `s' command -> -> -> suggestions? -> -> Tim -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSPUo-0000fy-JY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 22:17:46 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSPUn-0000fe-Et - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 22:17:45 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSPUm-0000fQ-Bo - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 22:17:44 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSPUm-0000fN-6b - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 22:17:44 -0400 -Received: from [24.116.0.227] (helo=S1.cableone.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSPZ5-0007Th-QR - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 22:22:12 -0400 -Received: from vh213602.truman.edu.truman.edu (unverified [24.117.100.92]) - by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 53522881 - for multiple; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:18:15 -0700 +\start +Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 21:17:41 -0500 +From: Jay Belanger To: list Subject: Re: Developers and Axiom -From: Jay Belanger - <200604051653.k35GrC104865@localhost.localdomain> -Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 21:17:41 -0500 - of "Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:53:12 -0400") -Cc: - -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: ... > 3) now the real magic happens with emacs.... > @@ -9861,36 +6060,11 @@ makefile with `shell-command' or something similar? Or something could be arranged so any output goes to a (normally non-showing) buffer, which could be displayed in case of an error. -Jay - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSQiR-0007nV-SU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:35:55 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSQiQ-0007nQ-SP - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:35:54 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSQiO-0007i5-97 - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:35:53 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSQiO-0007hk-4P - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:35:52 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FSQmi-0003Ol-Gz - for list; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:40:20 -0400 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k393ZR5V026224; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 23:35:45 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Frederic Lehobey'" Frederic Lehobey -Subject: RE: Axiom silver branch Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 23:34:54 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'Axiom developers' +From: Bill Page +To: Frederic Lehobey +Subject: RE: Axiom silver branch On April 8, 2006 5:47 PM Frederic Lehobey wrote: > ... @@ -9934,40 +6108,10 @@ CVS/ssh with Axiom on SourceForge. So far as I can tell the problem we are having with SVN does not have anything to do with ssh or network connectivity. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSRvO-0005nI-A4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:53:22 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSRvM-0005n6-1U - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:53:20 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSRvJ-0005mu-ET - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:53:18 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSRvJ-0005mr-AN - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:53:17 -0400 -Received: from [66.249.82.206] (helo=xproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSRze-0006ts-Ch - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:57:46 -0400 -Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t4so484374wxc - for ; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 21:53:16 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; - b=FfAttkZWaz/zs+6cYZq30GIXnrUOEh2IF6n7tMdGYxufEtJ+WpaAGKdgnjOvCuaW4dkC61WE27geGujcT0jKcJa7aclefoVatnhwnESeG4J2pq5wn6Px5DMvEx3Ri/qo9OAeAA7KwAD0nt2+nT9mWxaOpdN8aaejcwaofYIPcHY= -Received: by 10.70.45.5 with SMTP id s5mr1564973wxs; - Sat, 08 Apr 2006 21:53:16 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.70.131.5 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 21:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 21:53:16 -0700 -From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -To: axiom-developer +From: Antoine Hersen +To: list Subject: Speeding up Aldor domain compilation Hello, @@ -9980,40 +6124,11 @@ ode. Any ideas ? -Regards, -Antoine Hersen - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSXU5-0006CJ-Mk - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 06:49:33 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSXU3-0006BP-MN - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 06:49:31 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSXU1-0006Aw-SI - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 06:49:31 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSXU1-0006Ap-Ms - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 06:49:29 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FSXYQ-0003vb-2Y - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 06:54:02 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k39AnPFT013490 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sun, 9 Apr 2006 12:49:26 +0200 Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 11:05:17 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Antoine Hersen -Subject: Re: Patch : Remove warning message when comipiling - with aldor -Cc: axiom-developer +Subject: Re: Patch : Remove warning message when comipiling with aldor Thank you Antoine, @@ -10047,40 +6162,11 @@ comment in my eyes. But at least better than nothing. I have not recompiled Axiom for that but I believe without that that this patch does the right thing. (At least it does not hurt.) -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSXU8-0006DS-5V - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 06:49:36 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSXU6-0006CS-8K - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 06:49:34 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSXU4-0006Br-Ot - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 06:49:32 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSXU4-0006Bk-IA - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 06:49:32 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FSXYS-0003w8-U1 - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 06:54:05 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k39AnTFT013499 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sun, 9 Apr 2006 12:49:30 +0200 Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 11:12:59 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Jay Belanger Subject: Re: Developers and Axiom - <87ek07pk56.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> -Cc: list Hi Jay, @@ -10095,7 +6181,7 @@ here would be written? Ralf On 04/09/2006 04:17 AM, Jay Belanger wrote: -> root Tim Daly writes: +> Tim Daly writes: > ... >> 3) now the real magic happens with emacs.... >> @@ -10147,41 +6233,13 @@ On 04/09/2006 04:17 AM, Jay Belanger wrote: > (shell-command "make -f Makefile.foo &"))) > Or something could be arranged so any output goes to a (normally > non-showing) buffer, which could be displayed in case of an error. -> -> Jay - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSXUB-0006Ex-Bn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 06:49:39 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSXU9-0006ER-LI - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 06:49:37 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSXU9-0006E2-5d - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 06:49:37 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSXU8-0006Dn-Nu - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 06:49:36 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FSXYW-0003wf-Sh - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 06:54:09 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k39AnXFT013503 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sun, 9 Apr 2006 12:49:34 +0200 + +\start Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 12:29:15 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, - 'Axiom developers' +Cc: Frederic Lehobey On 04/09/2006 05:34 AM, Bill Page wrote: > On April 8, 2006 5:47 PM Frederic Lehobey wrote: @@ -10298,40 +6356,11 @@ learn about such standard tools. Am I wrong? All the best -Ralf - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSXUI-0006I5-S8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 06:49:46 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSXUH-0006HU-72 - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 06:49:45 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSXUF-0006Gv-GQ - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 06:49:44 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSXUF-0006Go-Bs - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 06:49:43 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FSXYd-0003xB-OW - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 06:54:16 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k39AnbFT013507 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sun, 9 Apr 2006 12:49:37 +0200 Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 12:47:07 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Speeding up Aldor domain compilation -Cc: axiom-developer Hi Antoine, @@ -10359,42 +6388,11 @@ don't know of a way for the lisp compiler. Why takes so long is probably also because libaxiom is a big monster with many many interdependencies. But that is a guess. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSaT9-0005qJ-3A - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:00:47 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSaT7-0005no-4c - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:00:45 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSaT6-0005mK-3D - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:00:44 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSaT5-0005lw-NX - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:00:43 -0400 -Received: from [193.252.22.20] (helo=smtp12.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSaXW-0007NP-02 - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:05:18 -0400 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf1201.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 55C7E1C000AB - for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 16:00:42 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from morgana (ARennes-257-1-18-78.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.53.1.78]) - by mwinf1201.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 27B1D1C000A6; - Sun, 9 Apr 2006 16:00:42 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from david by morgana with local (Exim 4.50) - id 1FSaTm-0001O2-Qp; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 16:01:26 +0200 +Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 16:01:26 +0200 +From: David Mentre To: Frederic Lehobey Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch - <000001c65a5b$36c546e0$6900a8c0@asus> <20060408203438.GB6739@melusine> -From: David Mentre -Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 16:01:26 +0200 - "Sat, 8 Apr 2006 22:34:38 +0200") -Cc: Axiom developers Frederic Lehobey writes: @@ -10405,42 +6403,11 @@ way, how did you check the authentication of the certificate? I've not yet tried to compile the silver branch. -Best wishes, -d. --- -David MENTRE David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSaTu-000698-N5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:01:34 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSaTs-00068o-RY - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:01:32 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSaTq-00068c-KS - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:01:32 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSaTq-00068Z-Ge - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:01:30 -0400 -Received: from [193.252.23.69] (helo=smtp14.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSaYG-0007QR-Q9 - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:06:04 -0400 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf1404.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4735E700008A - for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 16:01:28 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from ALille-251-1-89-161.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-89-161.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.30.161]) - by mwinf1404.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E85EA7000083; - Sun, 9 Apr 2006 16:01:27 +0200 (CEST) -Subject: Re: FC5 success (well sort of) -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Raymond Rogers +\start Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 16:02:14 +0200 -Cc: Axiom-Developer +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Raymond Rogers +Subject: Re: FC5 success (well sort of) Hi, @@ -10449,54 +6416,18 @@ t : [...] -> The text entry in the browser window doesn't seem to work=20 +> The text entry in the browser window doesn't seem to work Did you try with "Num Lock" disabled. On french keyboard I have to disable "numeric keypad". Hope that helps. -Cheers, - -Greg - - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSaW9-0006wL-Je - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:03:53 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSaW7-0006vp-QN - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:03:51 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSaW6-0006vX-8v - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:03:51 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSaW6-0006vR-1k - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:03:50 -0400 -Received: from [193.252.22.126] (helo=smtp18.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSaaW-0007aM-CK - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:08:24 -0400 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf1801.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C0CDC7000099 - for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 16:03:48 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from morgana (ARennes-257-1-18-78.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.53.1.78]) - by mwinf1801.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 98B727000098; - Sun, 9 Apr 2006 16:03:48 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from david by morgana with local (Exim 4.50) - id 1FSaWn-0001QA-8t; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 16:04:33 +0200 +Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 16:04:33 +0200 +From: David Mentre To: Frederic Lehobey Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch - <000001c65a5b$36c546e0$6900a8c0@asus> <20060408203438.GB6739@melusine> -From: David Mentre -Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 16:04:33 +0200 - "Sat, 8 Apr 2006 22:34:38 +0200") -Cc: Axiom developers Frederic Lehobey writes: @@ -10516,50 +6447,16 @@ However I confirm I obtain the same error. The gziped tar is corrupted (probably, as Bill suggested, because those tar file are not marked as binary). -Best wishes, -d. --- -David MENTRE David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSaei-0001k2-F4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:12:44 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSaeh-0001jg-72 - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:12:43 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSaee-0001hE-HX - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:12:41 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSaee-0001hB-CW - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:12:40 -0400 -Received: from [193.252.22.28] (helo=smtp3.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSaj4-00081n-VV - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:17:15 -0400 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf0309.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4EC981C007D3 - for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 16:12:39 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from morgana (ARennes-257-1-18-78.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.53.1.78]) - by mwinf0309.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0FB801C007CA; - Sun, 9 Apr 2006 16:12:39 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from david by morgana with local (Exim 4.50) - id 1FSafL-0001Qf-H4; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 16:13:23 +0200 -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Removing external binaries from Axiom source tree: a proposal (was: - Re: Axiom silver branch) -From: David Mentre +\start Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 16:13:23 +0200 - "Sat, 8 Apr 2006 17:25:08 -0400") -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, - 'Axiom developers' +From: David Mentre +To: Bill Page +Subject: Removing external binaries from Axiom source tree: a proposal (was: Re: Axiom silver branch) +Cc: Frederic Lehobey Hello Bill, -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: > Storing binary files in a source code archive is something that > I have always objected to, but Tim insists on re-distributing @@ -10584,51 +6481,18 @@ option --fetch-and-build-dependencies). What do you think of it? -Best wishes, -d. --- -David MENTRE David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSbFG-0001dG-7x - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:50:30 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSbFE-0001bp-9P - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:50:28 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSbFD-0001bU-PV - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:50:28 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSbFD-0001bQ-Ln - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:50:27 -0400 -Received: from [68.142.201.181] (helo=web31701.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSbJe-00021m-FI - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:55:02 -0400 -Received: (qmail 17083 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Apr 2006 14:50:25 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=0CG4f/JuGKW1nJ8mQdHr9JfHhoX4N1FcSJGP/c40Ob5dx4RjyYaHAu94NIj2X/dvtlTr1knPMAzI1ME9oulMZN/xnyE12JYE8yzcF+qO5tf0LwmU+qV94a+dotqjT+zZANrEjFEQ8iXp+R0tMyeY46exusV6zDDYnP3bEQA/9rc= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31701.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Sun, 09 Apr 2006 07:50:25 PDT +\start Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 07:50:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Removing external binaries from Axiom source tree: a proposal - (was: Re: Axiom silver branch) -To: David Mentre, - Bill Page -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, - 'Axiom developers' +To: David Mentre, Bill Page +Subject: Re: Removing external binaries from Axiom source tree: a proposal (was: Re: Axiom silver branch) +Cc: Frederic Lehobey --- David Mentre wrote: > Hello Bill, > -> "Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +> Bill Page writes: > > > Storing binary files in a source code archive is something that > > I have always objected to, but Tim insists on re-distributing @@ -10693,43 +6557,11 @@ Most Windows users don't compile applications at all. 3. Mac we can worry about once its working, but I think they have a fairly standard way of doing things? -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSbhC-0005by-Ne - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 11:19:22 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSbhA-0005bm-P2 - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 11:19:20 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSbh9-0005ba-O9 - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 11:19:20 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSbh9-0005bX-EU - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 11:19:19 -0400 -Received: from [68.168.78.205] (helo=mta11.adelphia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSbla-0001MK-Ox - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 11:23:54 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.0.2] (really [24.53.124.201]) by mta11.adelphia.net - (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP - id <20060409151918.JAMC12719.mta11.adelphia.net@[192.168.0.2]>; - Sun, 9 Apr 2006 11:19:18 -0400 +\start Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 11:34:52 -0400 From: Raymond Rogers -To: =?UTF-8?B?VmFudXhlbSBHcsOpZ29yeQ==?= Gregory Vanuxem +To: Gregory Vanuxem Subject: Re: FC5 success (well sort of) - <1144591334.3678.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> -OpenPGP: id=539C8F82 -Cc: Axiom-Developer Vanuxem Grégory wrote: > Hi, @@ -10751,54 +6583,22 @@ Vanuxem Grégory wrote: Surely you jest!! OTOH: your right! sigh.... -This explains why I was able to use the browser remotely under ssh from a WinXp laptop, and not -from my computer console. :-( - -Should I try to fix this? Since it doesn't involve the fractal internal linkages of the -axiom/spad/lisp system I might have success. - -Greg: I copied the list, since it doesn't enhance people's opinions to have hidden "secret" -keys/states in machines. - -Ray +This explains why I was able to use the browser remotely under ssh +from a WinXp laptop, and not from my computer console. :-( +Should I try to fix this? Since it doesn't involve the fractal +internal linkages of the axiom/spad/lisp system I might have success. +Greg: I copied the list, since it doesn't enhance people's opinions to +have hidden "secret" keys/states in machines. \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSeL0-0005c5-8W - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 14:08:38 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSeKx-0005ay-KP - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 14:08:35 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSeKv-0005ZP-4u - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 14:08:34 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSeKu-0005ZA-OA - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 14:08:32 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.100] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSePN-0004TH-Dj - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 14:13:09 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDF440F1D; - Sun, 9 Apr 2006 20:08:29 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k39I6ftZ011111; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 20:06:46 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k39I6fRN011110; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 20:06:41 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 09 Apr 2006 20:06:41 +0200 -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, - 'Axiom developers' - +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch +Cc: Frederic Lehobey Hello, @@ -10809,7 +6609,7 @@ variants of the source tree. I'm still not in a place where I can do much right now. But, I'm collecting all the suggestions here. -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On April 8, 2006 5:47 PM Frederic Lehobey wrote: | > ... @@ -10867,44 +6667,12 @@ That is interesting. Do you have links to those patches so that we can see how we could/should consider them and work out the details with Tim? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSeQj-0008Nv-OB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 14:14:33 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSeQh-0008Nq-F1 - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 14:14:31 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSeQf-0008Ne-04 - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 14:14:30 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSeQe-0008Nb-Rl - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 14:14:28 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.100] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSeV7-0004nC-Pc - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 14:19:05 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9847240F53; - Sun, 9 Apr 2006 20:14:26 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k39IChtZ011123; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 20:12:43 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k39IChNH011122; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 20:12:43 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 09 Apr 2006 20:12:43 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch - <4438E1FB.1010101@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Apr 2006 20:12:43 +0200 -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, - 'Axiom developers' +Cc: Frederic Lehobey Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -10960,42 +6728,17 @@ thought. yup, me :-/ I can't do all things at the same time; we have to work gradually. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSfdm-00082x-7e - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 15:32:06 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSfdk-00082n-K7 - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 15:32:04 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSfdj-00082W-My - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 15:32:04 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSfdj-00082T-JW - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 15:32:03 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSfiD-0000jH-93 - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 15:36:41 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599444F3B0 - for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 21:31:49 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from fmy by localhost.localdomain with local (Exim 4.60) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) id 1FSfdg-00024Y-1v - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 21:32:00 +0200 -To: list -From: Francois Maltey Date: 09 Apr 2006 21:32:00 +0200 +From: Francois Maltey +To: list Subject: how use trace for a domain -Hello,=20 +Hello, I want to follow axiom in his computation for the imag (sin (%i)). -So I try=20 +So I try )trace imag -- I get imag isn't a function. I reread the 30-year book and test @@ -11007,7 +6750,7 @@ imag (sin (%i)) >> System error: Bind stack overflow. -The first time I get about 55 pages of=20 +The first time I get about 55 pages of ... 1exit Expression.denom,81 : (0 . 1) @@ -11021,49 +6764,22 @@ The first time I get about 55 pages of=20 We make a mistake, I or axiom ? -Fran=C3=A7ois - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSgRg-0002tH-Bf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 16:23:40 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSgRe-0002sy-PT - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 16:23:38 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSgRd-0002sj-7Z - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 16:23:37 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSgRd-0002sg-2W - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 16:23:37 -0400 -Received: from [212.27.42.35] (helo=smtp5-g19.free.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSgW7-0003kt-3y - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 16:28:15 -0400 -Received: from melusine (pat35-1-82-231-148-189.fbx.proxad.net - [82.231.148.189]) - by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 174B72641A - for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 22:23:36 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from lehobey by melusine with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) - id 1FSgRb-0001aA-00 - for ; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 22:23:35 +0200 +\start Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 22:23:35 +0200 -To: Axiom developers - From: Frederic Lehobey +To: list Subject: noweb patch Hi, On Sun, Apr 09, 2006 at 08:06:41PM +0200, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: -> "Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +> Bill Page writes: > | On April 8, 2006 5:47 PM Frederic Lehobey wrote: > | > On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 05:25:08PM -0400, Bill Page wrote: > | > > Storing binary files in a source code archive is something that > | > > I have always objected to, but Tim insists on re-distributing > | > > code this way. I really think we should stop doing this. -> | >=20 +> | > > | > Please, provide the relevant patches. This is exactly what needs > | > the silver branch and what it is intended for. :-) @@ -11071,7 +6787,7 @@ On Sun, Apr 09, 2006 at 08:06:41PM +0200, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > | both gcl and noweb would have to be installed *before* building > | Axiom. Personally, I don't think that this is a problem. Tim Daly > | resists. Are there any other opinions? ->=20 +> > I believe we should keep noweb. Why? @@ -11089,11 +6805,11 @@ application: http://klik.atekon.de/ > | a couple of years ago. It provides a simple awk script to allow > | noweb to be used with Axiom pamphlet files without modifications > | to noweb. -> |=20 +> | > | Together these two patches eliminate the need to build noweb and > | gcl as part of the Axiom build and thus eliminate the need for > | the corresponding .tgz files in the source code archive. ->=20 +> > That is interesting. Do you have links to those patches so that we > can see how we could/should consider them and work out the details > with Tim? @@ -11131,38 +6847,11 @@ should be more experimental and intended at developers (or wannabe developers). I do not see the point in weekly versions as suggested by Gabriel. -Best regards, -Fr=E9d=E9ric - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSknS-00067j-0N - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 21:02:26 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSknQ-00067U-Hx - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 21:02:24 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSknO-00066N-4w - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 21:02:23 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSknN-00065x-VK - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 21:02:21 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.210] (helo=mails10.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FSkru-0001Ht-Ng - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 21:07:02 -0400 -Received: from asus (207-61-191-200.anikast.net [207.61.191.200]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails10.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k3A122GB011026; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 21:02:15 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Antoine Hersen'" Antoine Hersen -Subject: RE: Speeding up Aldor domain compilation Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 21:02:00 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-developer' +From: Bill Page +To: Antoine Hersen +Subject: RE: Speeding up Aldor domain compilation On April 9, 2006 12:53 AM Antoine Hersen wrote: > @@ -11185,45 +6874,11 @@ The only explanation I can think of is that your computer must be very limited in memory and that it spends an extreme amount of time swapping to disk. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSmLA-00063n-NU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 22:41:20 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSmL9-00063h-6S - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 22:41:19 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSmL7-00061C-8T - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 22:41:18 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSmL7-000613-2Y - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 22:41:17 -0400 -Received: from [193.124.167.24] (helo=inpbox.inp.nsk.su) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSmPe-0006Qf-NV - for list; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 22:45:59 -0400 -Received: from star.inp.nsk.su ([193.124.167.6]) - by inpbox.inp.nsk.su with esmtp (Exim 4.50) - id 1FSmKs-0003ND-O4; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 09:41:02 +0700 -Received: from star.inp.nsk.su (star.inp.nsk.su [127.0.0.1]) - by star.inp.nsk.su (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k3A2f2e8023761; - Mon, 10 Apr 2006 09:41:02 +0700 -Received: from localhost (grozin@localhost) - by star.inp.nsk.su (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id k3A2f1Jo023757; - Mon, 10 Apr 2006 09:41:01 +0700 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 09:41:01 +0700 (NOVST) From: Andrey G. Grozin To: Frederic Lehobey Subject: Re: noweb patch - - <20060409202335.GA5126@melusine> -Cc: Axiom developers On Sun, 9 Apr 2006, Frederic Lehobey wrote: > A `dream' of mine would be to provide also axiom as a kilk @@ -11233,39 +6888,10 @@ Please, NO!! It asks the user to execite an arbitrary code from an untrusted place in the Internet. No sane person should do this. Ever. -Andrey - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSrkY-0005aZ-Ss - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 04:27:54 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSrkX-0005ZY-84 - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 04:27:53 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSrkV-0005Yp-Fz - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 04:27:52 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSrkV-0005Ym-9f - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 04:27:51 -0400 -Received: from [212.27.42.30] (helo=smtp4-g19.free.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSrp6-0003ez-Ff - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 04:32:36 -0400 -Received: from melusine (pat35-1-82-231-148-189.fbx.proxad.net - [82.231.148.189]) - by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92A8547E9; - Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:27:49 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from lehobey by melusine with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) - id 1FSrkS-0001FG-00; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:27:48 +0200 +\start Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:27:48 +0200 -To: Andrey G. Grozin - - <20060409202335.GA5126@melusine> - From: Frederic Lehobey -Cc: Axiom developers +To: Andrey G. Grozin Subject: klik or not? Hi, @@ -11275,9 +6901,9 @@ On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 09:41:01AM +0700, Andrey G. Grozin wrote: > >A `dream' of mine would be to provide also axiom as a kilk > >application: http://klik.atekon.de/ > Please, NO!! ->=20 +> > It asks the user to execite an arbitrary code from an untrusted place i= -n=20 +n > the Internet. No sane person should do this. Ever. OK. @@ -11287,34 +6913,11 @@ the developers or any other trusted person; it might also be run from a chroot. I think anyways we are still very far from a `klikable' axiom. -Fr=E9d=E9ric - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSsUo-00081S-HQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 05:15:42 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSsUm-000812-2n - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 05:15:40 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSsUk-00080X-2m - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 05:15:39 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSsUj-00080Q-P7 - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 05:15:37 -0400 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSsZK-0006mc-W9 - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 05:20:23 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k3A95tHb071044; - Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:05:56 +0200 (CEST) +Date: 10 Apr 2006 11:10:34 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: Francois Maltey Subject: Re: how use trace for a domain -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 10 Apr 2006 11:10:34 +0200 -Cc: list Dear Francois, @@ -11442,65 +7045,35 @@ you'll get what you wanted. The bind stack overflow when tracing EXPR is a bug. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSx1P-00011C-O2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:05:39 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSx1O-0000ym-0n - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:05:38 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSx1M-0000yA-Bv - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:05:37 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSx1M-0000xw-90 - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:05:36 -0400 -Received: from [193.252.23.69] (helo=smtp14.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSx60-0004x4-Le - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:10:24 -0400 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf1406.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 455DE70000CE - for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:05:34 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from ALille-251-1-113-92.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-113-92.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.208.250.92]) - by mwinf1406.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E597970000C8; - Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:05:33 +0200 (CEST) -Subject: Re: FC5 success (well sort of) -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Raymond Rogers - <1144591334.3678.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> - <4439299C.8010808@plaidheron.com> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:06:24 +0200 -Cc: Axiom-Developer +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Raymond Rogers +Subject: Re: FC5 success (well sort of) Hi, Le dimanche 09 avril 2006 =C3=A0 11:34 -0400, Raymond E. Rogers a =C3=A9c= -rit :=20 +rit : > Vanuxem Gr=C3=A9gory wrote: > > Hi, -> >=20 +> > > > Le samedi 08 avril 2006 =C3=A0 19:13 -0400, Raymond E. Rogers a =C3=A9= crit : -> >=20 +> > > > [...] -> >=20 -> >> The text entry in the browser window doesn't seem to work=20 -> >=20 +> > +> >> The text entry in the browser window doesn't seem to work +> > > > Did you try with "Num Lock" disabled. On french keyboard I have to > > disable "numeric keypad". -> >=20 +> > > > Hope that helps. -> >=20 +> > > > Cheers, -> >=20 +> > > > Greg ->=20 +> > Surely you jest!! OTOH: your right! No, sorry. Sometimes I quickly write emails that contain some @@ -11512,7 +7085,7 @@ your libraries file a bug on Mathaction. > This explains why I was able to use the browser remotely under ssh from= a WinXp laptop, and not > from my computer console. :-( ->=20 +> > Should I try to fix this? Since it doesn't involve the fractal interna= l linkages of the > axiom/spad/lisp system I might have success. @@ -11524,49 +7097,17 @@ list for public review. Cheers, -Greg=20 ->=20 +Greg +> > Greg: I copied the list, since it doesn't enhance people's opinions to = have hidden "secret" > keys/states in machines. ->=20 -> Ray ->=20 ->=20 - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSyB4-0002NX-Ju - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:19:42 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSyB2-0002Mz-GO - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:19:40 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSyB0-0002Me-2s - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:19:39 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSyAz-0002Mb-T2 - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:19:37 -0400 -Received: from [206.46.252.46] (helo=vms046pub.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSyFf-0002g4-4d - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:24:27 -0400 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.163.200]) - by vms046.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 - (built Sep - 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0IXI0078RIKOKLI0@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for - list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:19:36 -0500 (CDT) + +\start Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:19:46 -0400 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: )trace and RANDOM() bugs (was how use trace for - a domain) To: Francois Maltey -Message-id: <443A7792.5C00C144@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 -Cc: list +Subject: Re: )trace and RANDOM() bugs (was how use trace for a domain) Francois Maltey wrote: @@ -11583,53 +7124,17 @@ seems to have to do with coercion to output, but may be not. The bug has nothing to do with imag, sin, or '%i'. See SandBox Trace EXPR. I am working on the report to IssueTracker #283 (nothing posted yet). -William - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSydN-0006r8-81 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:48:57 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSydL-0006r0-U3 - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:48:55 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSydK-0006qa-4a - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:48:55 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSydK-0006qX-1N - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:48:54 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.209] (helo=mails09.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FSyhz-00057P-F9 - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:53:43 -0400 -Received: from asus (207-61-191-200.anikast.net [207.61.191.200]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails09.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k3AFmTe9017419; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:48:42 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +\start +Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:48:20 -0400 +From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: Axiom silver branch -Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:48:20 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, - 'Axiom developers' - - +Cc: Frederic Lehobey > -----Original Message----- -> From: Gabriel Dos Reis=20 -> [mailto:Gabriel Dos Reis]=20 -> Sent: April 9, 2006 2:07 PM -> To: Bill Page -> Cc: 'Frederic Lehobey'; 'Axiom developers' -> Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 +> > Hello, ->=20 +> > I'm sorry to hear people have had trouble checking out the SVN > tree. When I ried check out, it was from a hotel where the > connection was very poor but I did not have problems checking @@ -11643,7 +7148,7 @@ using SVN on Windows and some linux platforms. It might be network configuration related but it is also SVS specific since I can download successfully using CVS on SourceForge through the same machine and network connection. I hope this is something -that is corrected in newer versions of SVN.=20 +that is corrected in newer versions of SVN. Concerning storing binary files in the Axiom CVS and SVN archives I think we should at least make it work correctly as it is before @@ -11670,42 +7175,12 @@ permit Axiom to be build from the SVN archive. According to SourceForge this might take 2 or 3 hours to complete. (Is SVN really that slow?) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSysi-0004Uq-QX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:04:48 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSysh-0004U9-4O - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:04:47 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FSysf-0004TA-1T - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:04:46 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FSyse-0004T2-S0 - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:04:44 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FSyxK-0006Pv-7g - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:09:34 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3AG4aFT025852 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:04:36 +0200 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:05:53 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, - 'Axiom developers' +Cc: Frederic Lehobey > In the SourceForge Axiom CVS archive I have set the binary mode > for all the *.tgz files in the zips directory using the command: @@ -11732,38 +7207,12 @@ trouble with CVS and binaries. Does someone need the history that is in the CVS currently? Aren't we satisfied with the history of axiom--main--1--patch-47? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FT0PW-0007oV-JY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:42:46 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FT0PU-0007oB-K2 - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:42:44 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FT0PT-0007ns-4o - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:42:44 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FT0PS-0007np-Vm - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:42:43 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FT0U9-0006d0-Ib - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:47:33 -0400 -Received: from asus (207-61-191-200.anikast.net [207.61.191.200]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k3AHg8es010289; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:42:28 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: Axiom silver branch Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:42:05 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, - 'Axiom developers' +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: Axiom silver branch +Cc: Frederic Lehobey On April 10, 2006 12:06 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > @@ -11823,40 +7272,11 @@ I think you might be right about the irrelevance of history to the "silver" branch so that means we could optimize the SVN archive and remove (most?) of this history. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FT0cn-0005Pd-Az - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:56:29 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FT0cl-0005N2-Nv - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:56:27 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FT0ck-0005K9-37 - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:56:27 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FT0cj-0005Ju-W3 - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:56:26 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.210] (helo=mails10.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FT0hQ-0007yx-H4 - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:01:16 -0400 -Received: from asus (207-61-191-200.anikast.net [207.61.191.200]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails10.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k3AHsw28027022; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:56:19 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Harry'" -Subject: RE: how to install Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:54:53 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'Axiom developers' +From: Bill Page +To: Harry Georgiou +Subject: RE: how to install On April 10, 2006 1:35 PM Harry wrote: > @@ -11893,45 +7313,11 @@ again as explained at http://wiki.axiom-developer.org -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FT2n7-00065O-5z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:15:17 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FT2n6-00065J-6b - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:15:16 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FT2n3-000657-Q7 - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:15:14 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FT2n3-000654-Kq - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:15:13 -0400 -Received: from [150.243.160.94] (helo=uranium.truman.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FT2rl-0004Ea-NY - for list; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:20:05 -0400 -Received: from uranium.truman.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 03CF114222; - Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:16:57 -0500 (CDT) -Received: from vh213602.truman.edu.truman.edu (vh213602.truman.edu - [150.243.64.5]) - by uranium.truman.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8893BFD3; - Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:16:56 -0500 (CDT) +Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:15:11 -0500 +From: Jay Belanger To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Developers and Axiom -From: Jay Belanger - <200604051653.k35GrC104865@localhost.localdomain> - <87ek07pk56.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> <4438D01B.20402@hemmecke.de> -Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:15:11 -0500 - 09 Apr 2006 11:12:59 +0200") -Cc: list - Ralf Hemmecke writes: ... @@ -11943,45 +7329,14 @@ Should that be added to the current "Axiom in Emacs" page, or should I'd be happy to create the page. It should probably start with Tim's discussion, but I wouldn't want to add it without his okay. -Jay - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTDqL-0006hj-2B - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:03:21 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTDqI-0006gp-IC - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:03:18 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTDqG-0006fr-Vq - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:03:17 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTDqG-0006fh-Nd - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:03:16 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTDv5-0005pT-Fq - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:08:15 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC9B40F71; - Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:03:15 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k3B81KtZ017852; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:01:21 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k3B81KZs017851; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:01:20 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 11 Apr 2006 10:01:20 +0200 -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, - 'Axiom developers' +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch +Cc: Frederic Lehobey -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | > -----Original Message----- | > From: Gabriel Dos Reis @@ -12048,37 +7403,10 @@ Thanks! yes, it is that fast, when you mind about the history of the commits and such.... --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTE8n-0008L6-93 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:22:25 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTE8m-0008KU-EI - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:22:24 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTE8k-0008Jt-5W - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:22:23 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTE8k-0008Jq-08 - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:22:22 -0400 -Received: from [206.46.252.44] (helo=vms044pub.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTEDZ-0008Br-6o - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:27:21 -0400 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.163.200]) - by vms044.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 - (built Sep - 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0IXJ005DNTX8S6J5@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for - list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 03:22:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:22:32 -0400 From: William Sit -To: Bill Page, list -Message-id: <443B6748.8B1753B6@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 -Cc: +To: Bill Page Subject: error and editing Hi Bill: @@ -12104,40 +7432,11 @@ I tried to find how to set the wrap line option in preferences but could not. Sorry for the mess up and thanks for fixing up any left-overs. -William - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTEGx-0005ME-PU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:30:51 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTEGw-0005Lx-R0 - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:30:50 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTEGv-0005LV-Cr - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:30:50 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTEGv-0005LL-A6 - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:30:49 -0400 -Received: from [206.46.252.46] (helo=vms046pub.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTELk-0000bO-Ie - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:35:48 -0400 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.163.200]) - by vms046.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 - (built Sep - 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0IXJ00785UBBKKK3@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for - list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 03:30:48 -0500 (CDT) +\start Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:30:55 -0400 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: how use trace for a domain To: Martin Rubey, - Tim Daly Tim Daly -Message-id: <443B693F.8E8C72EE@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 - <851ww5aj91.fsf@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list +Subject: Re: how use trace for a domain Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -12155,40 +7454,11 @@ My suspicion is it has to do with FRAC, )math, and of course )trace. Does anyone knows how to trace )trace? (Tim: where is )trace and in what language is it written?) -William - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTGAF-0006Mq-Dw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 06:32:03 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTGAE-0006MJ-3M - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 06:32:02 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTGAC-0006Lj-Sl - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 06:32:01 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTGAC-0006Lc-Le - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 06:32:00 -0400 -Received: from [206.46.252.48] (helo=vms048pub.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTGF2-000689-RC - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 06:37:01 -0400 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.163.200]) - by vms048.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 - (built Sep - 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0IXJ00LBOZXAX1M2@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> for - list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 05:31:59 -0500 (CDT) +\start Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 06:32:10 -0400 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: operations working in general, - but not in specialcases -- help needed To: Ralf Hemmecke -Message-id: <443B85AA.89799B6D@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 - <4432980B.4EDCE622@cunyvm.cuny.edu> <44339AA8.7000003@hemmecke.de> -Cc: axiom-dev , aldor-l +Subject: Re: operations working in general, but not in specialcases -- help needed Ralf Hemmecke wrote on Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:23:36 +0200: > @@ -12449,39 +7719,11 @@ in E outside of this union matters. There is also no requirement of any algebraic structure on E. The whole essense of matroids depends on the set relations among a (finite) family of finite subsets. -William - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTGCn-00079b-QQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 06:34:41 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTGCm-00079E-IF - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 06:34:40 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTGCk-00078X-Dl - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 06:34:39 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTGCj-00078L-VD - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 06:34:38 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FTGHZ-0006PL-Nl - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 06:39:38 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3BAYYFT023288 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:34:35 +0200 +\start Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:34:33 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Jay Belanger Subject: Re: Developers and Axiom - <4438D01B.20402@hemmecke.de> <87irphw5kg.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> -Cc: list Hi Jay, @@ -12541,38 +7783,12 @@ Actually, that should be clear anyway... In fact, I even think that there should no names on a wiki page at all. They all are written by "the axiom community". One cannot get credit for it. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTJyW-0003HA-Hq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:36:12 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTJyT-0003Fd-TZ - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:36:10 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTJyQ-0003Dl-M5 - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:36:08 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTJyQ-0003Df-GY - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:36:06 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.218] (helo=mails18.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FTK3I-00015n-Pm - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:41:09 -0400 -Received: from asus (207-61-191-200.anikast.net [207.61.191.200]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails18.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k3BEZXYK007554; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:35:56 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:35:28 -0400 +From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: Axiom silver branch -Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:35:28 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, - 'Axiom developers' +Cc: Frederic Lehobey On April 11, 2006 4:01 AM Gaby wrote: @@ -12609,39 +7825,11 @@ same thing with darcs and tla only takes a few minutes at most. Almost all my experiences with SVN have been sort of negative in this way and to top it off it is way too much like CVS! :( -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTKLt-0002YI-7n - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:00:21 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTKLr-0002Xv-RW - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:00:19 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTKLp-0002X0-O8 - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:00:18 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTKLp-0002Wv-KI - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:00:17 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FTKQi-0004Ot-CP - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:05:20 -0400 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k3BExnTP014287; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:00:07 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: Developers and Axiom Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:59:33 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: Developers and Axiom Ralf, @@ -12709,45 +7897,13 @@ I think anyone who spends time improving the site will in fact this is not formal credit in the sense most applicable to personal promotion etc. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTLyF-0001b0-Ep - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:44:03 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTLyE-0001Z2-5L - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:44:02 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTLyA-0001VO-HV - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:44:01 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTLyA-0001VL-EA - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:43:58 -0400 -Received: from [150.243.160.94] (helo=uranium.truman.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTM34-0007Uv-6t - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:49:02 -0400 -Received: from uranium.truman.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B669407F7 - for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:45:44 -0500 (CDT) -Received: from vh213602.truman.edu.truman.edu (vh213602.truman.edu - [150.243.64.5]) - by uranium.truman.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7B513E4D; - Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:45:43 -0500 (CDT) -To: 'Axiom developers' -Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch -From: Jay Belanger Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:43:56 -0500 - "Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:35:28 -0400") -Cc: - +From: Jay Belanger +To: list +Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: > On April 11, 2006 4:01 AM Gaby wrote: > @@ -12785,42 +7941,11 @@ I assume that when some recursive copy in the Makefile is called, it tries to write over some subversion files (which of course don't have permissions which allow that). Am I the only one with this problem? -Jay - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTOLJ-0003hR-4I - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:16:01 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTOLI-0003fz-01 - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:16:00 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTOLF-0003c8-IN - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:15:59 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTOLF-0003bb-9v - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:15:57 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTOQ9-0003CG-Jy - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:21:02 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 72D3B6827A; - Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:15:54 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id D2BA868282; - Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:15:50 -0400 (EDT) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Axiom silver branch Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:15:51 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Axiom silver branch -Thread-Index: AcZdhyuTraT7g06jRnS+8GdVHZRWpwAFDz0g From: Bill Page -To: Jay Belanger, - "Axiom developers" -Cc: +To: Jay Belanger +Subject: RE: Axiom silver branch On Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:44 PM Jay Belanger wrote: > >> Bill Page wrote: @@ -12844,15 +7969,15 @@ On Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:44 PM Jay Belanger wrote: > > developers who have downloaded the SVN silver version should test > > this. An 'svn update' should be sufficient. Then Axiom should > > build from this archive. ->=20 +> > Have you actually built it, or just downloaded it? I downloaded it and checked that I could successfully decompress and untar the binary files. I did not attempt to build Axiom. > When I try to build it, I get a series of errors of the form: ->=20 -> cp: cannot create regular file=20 +> +> cp: cannot create regular file > `/usr/local/belanger/axiom/silver/mnt/linux/bin/tex/.svn/prop- > base/axiom.sty.svn-base': Permission denied @@ -12861,21 +7986,21 @@ that the Axiom build would be trying to create files in a directory with the name '.svn' since that is a directory owned by SVN. -> cp: cannot create regular file=20 +> cp: cannot create regular file > `/usr/local/belanger/axiom/silver/mnt/linux/bin/tex/.svn/forma > t': Permission denied -> cp: cannot create regular file=20 +> cp: cannot create regular file > `/usr/local/belanger/axiom/silver/mnt/linux/bin/tex/.svn/text- > base/axiom.sty.svn-base': Permission denied -> cp: cannot create regular file=20 +> cp: cannot create regular file > `/usr/local/belanger/axiom/silver/mnt/linux/bin/tex/.svn/READM > E.txt': Permission denied ->=20 +> > I assume that when some recursive copy in the Makefile is called, > it tries to write over some subversion files (which of course don't > have permissions which allow that). Am I the only one with this > problem? ->=20 +> I can try the build myself later today but I can not imagine what would cause the Axiom build process to do that. Are you @@ -12887,42 +8012,10 @@ during the Axiom build and should not be present in the SVN archive and so should not contain a '.svn' subdirectory. I am not sure what is going on. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTOVH-0006ly-AC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:26:19 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTOVG-0006lR-84 - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:26:18 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTOVF-0006l2-00 - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:26:17 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTOVE-0006kz-T1 - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:26:16 -0400 -Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1FTOaA-0004Mt-GI - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:31:22 -0400 -Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTOV6-0003SH-VR - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:26:08 +0200 -Received: from 69-160-148-143.vnnyca.adelphia.net ([69.160.148.143]) - by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) - id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 - for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:26:08 +0200 -Received: from simon by 69-160-148-143.vnnyca.adelphia.net with local (Gmexim - 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 - for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:26:08 +0200 -To: list -From: Simon Michael Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:26:36 -0700 - <004801c65d78$99d57640$6900a8c0@asus> +From: Simon Michael +To: list Subject: Re: Developers and Axiom Hi, @@ -12937,40 +8030,10 @@ I've found it useful to display this right on the front page, but only to a certain depth, as at http://zwiki.org and http://zopewiki.org (requires a recent Zwiki). -Hope this helps --Simon - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTObg-0002HI-Hu - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:32:56 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTObe-0002Gi-TA - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:32:54 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTObd-0002FM-Al - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:32:54 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTObd-0002FF-7u - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:32:53 -0400 -Received: from [66.249.82.198] (helo=xproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTOgY-00056r-RD - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:37:59 -0400 -Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t4so906531wxc - for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:32:51 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; - b=e3f5zfd/xNp7v7NbQi0tuM2rL0PZCan4fNbCg5rpXqF4THX2okBraaSy8EOR7uuriQzQj91+VAUXPjyffXWS4GrHdi2k+e8s7uZ73ipaLqJwdsjr9x1GL5ZJ9ZlzEXSbzk4meO0+h8IE7Vcs06KkIPVQN2D37iAgK45cAdyY0Jg= -Received: by 10.70.21.6 with SMTP id 6mr367161wxu; - Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:32:51 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.70.131.5 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:32:51 -0700 (PDT) +\start Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:32:51 -0700 -From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -To: axiom-developer - boundary="----=_Part_8331_15225078.1144783971814" +From: Antoine Hersen +To: list Subject: Book vol 3 ------=_Part_8331_15225078.1144783971814 @@ -12984,52 +8047,11 @@ The result is quite convinient for me. Should I put it on the wiki ? What is the policy for file hosting ? -Regards, -Antoine Hersen - -------=_Part_8331_15225078.1144783971814 - -Hello,

I added \usepackage{hyperref}, converted some ps to pdf = - to book vol3 and used pdflatex.
The result is quite convinient for me.<= -br>
Should I put it on the wiki ?
What is the policy for file hosting= - ? -

Regards,
Antoine Hersen
- -------=_Part_8331_15225078.1144783971814-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTOuT-00048r-4D - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:52:21 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTOuS-00048Y-GI - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:52:20 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTOuQ-000480-G1 - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:52:19 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTOuQ-00047x-7u - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:52:18 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTOzL-0007TY-U6 - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:57:24 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 5630D668B8; - Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:52:17 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 3455666087; - Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:52:11 -0400 (EDT) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Book vol 3 +\start Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:52:13 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Book vol 3 -Thread-Index: AcZdnsC/zj6TpLWxR9uiuCqThtLP/wAARlMg From: Bill Page -To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -Cc: axiom-developer +To: Antoine Hersen +Subject: RE: Book vol 3 On Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:33 PM Antoine Hersen wrote: @@ -13038,7 +8060,7 @@ On Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:33 PM Antoine Hersen wrote: > for me. > > Should I put it on the wiki ? -> What is the policy for file hosting ?=20 +> What is the policy for file hosting ? Thanks for doing this and offering to upload it for others. @@ -13075,41 +8097,11 @@ dvips -> ps2pdf and will produce good quality hyperlinks. Please ask if you need more explanation for any of these options. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTPfa-0004oy-21 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:41:02 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTPfW-0004li-Tm - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:40:59 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTPfV-0004ky-Ux - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:40:58 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTPfV-0004ki-Me - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:40:57 -0400 -Received: from [150.243.160.94] (helo=uranium.truman.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTPkR-0004P9-OL - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:46:04 -0400 -Received: from uranium.truman.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 20DA1140E6; - Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:42:43 -0500 (CDT) -Received: from vh213602.truman.edu.truman.edu (vh213602.truman.edu - [150.243.64.5]) - by uranium.truman.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4DD408BC; - Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:42:42 -0500 (CDT) +Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:40:55 -0500 +From: Jay Belanger To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch -From: Jay Belanger -Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:40:55 -0500 - (Bill Page's message of "Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:15:51 -0400") -Cc: Axiom developers - Bill Page writes: ... @@ -13320,38 +8312,11 @@ make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/belanger/axiom/silver' make: *** [all] Error 2 [silver]> - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTPpk-0002bw-Hm - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:51:32 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTPpi-0002bE-EX - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:51:30 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTPph-0002ap-2x - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:51:29 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTPpg-0002ai-ON - for list; 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Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:56:35 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTPuc-0003zl-1D - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:56:34 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTPub-0003zM-Iy - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:56:33 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTPub-0003zH-Ce - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:56:33 -0400 -Received: from [150.243.160.94] (helo=uranium.truman.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTPzX-0006bZ-O8 - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:01:39 -0400 -Received: from uranium.truman.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id D0BFF1428D - for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:58:19 -0500 (CDT) -Received: from vh213602.truman.edu.truman.edu (vh213602.truman.edu - [150.243.64.5]) - by uranium.truman.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37903C236; - Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:58:19 -0500 (CDT) +Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:56:32 -0500 +From: Jay Belanger To: list Subject: Re: Developers and Axiom -From: Jay Belanger - <200604051653.k35GrC104865@localhost.localdomain> - <87ek07pk56.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> <4438D01B.20402@hemmecke.de> - <87irphw5kg.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> <443B8639.9040408@hemmecke.de> -Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:56:32 -0500 - 11 Apr 2006 12:34:33 +0200") -Cc: - Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -13650,45 +8585,15 @@ On the other hand, since there's quite a bit that could be said about Axiom and Emacs, and it might be easier to navigate if it's broken down into sections. -Jay - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTQKy-0005Cp-FF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:23:48 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTQKv-0005BX-Pg - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:23:45 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTQKu-0005BH-4f - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:23:45 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTQKu-0005BE-1L - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:23:44 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTQPp-0001LL-Mj - for list; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:28:50 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 31D3E68748; - Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:23:42 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 0F47A68745; - Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:23:39 -0400 (EDT) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: error and editing Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:23:27 -0400 -Thread-Topic: error and editing -Thread-Index: AcZdQRZstaPEB+UJSWS/h9lkGv8q5wAarraw From: Bill Page To: William Sit -Cc: list +Subject: RE: error and editing On Tuesday, April 11, 2006 4:23 AM William Sit wrote: ->=20 -> Last night, I accidentally modified the title of SandBox to=20 +> +> Last night, I accidentally modified the title of SandBox to > [SandBox Trace EXPR] but I think I managed to revert it back. > Please verify, since Wiki seems to automatically update all > links once a title is modified. @@ -13696,12 +8601,12 @@ On Tuesday, April 11, 2006 4:23 AM William Sit wrote: No problem. I think everything is back to the way it should be. ->=20 +> > I also found that the preview and resulting display after > a save not to apply line wrap so that a long paragraph is > displayed as a long line. This happened both for Firefox and > IE (and I don't think it is my local settings). In other -> words, the style is not handling html correctly. I tried all=20 +> words, the style is not handling html correctly. I tried all > sorts of editing style (pamphlet, etc) and none seem to help > and I had to manually insert linefeeds. @@ -13727,15 +8632,15 @@ Section 1. The Issues These are probably related ... ->=20 -> Somehow, [SandBox Trace EXPR and FRAC] has word wrap but=20 +> +> Somehow, [SandBox Trace EXPR and FRAC] has word wrap but > [SandBox Trace Analysed] does not. I left the first text > paragraph like that as an example. I think it looks ok now. ->=20 -> Changing the editing style modified the source too, for=20 +> +> Changing the editing style modified the source too, for > example, '0$EXPR' would sometimes turn into $0$EXPR$ which > would be quite confusing (to me at least). @@ -13745,8 +8650,8 @@ is to escape the $ signs with \ like this '\$'. Without you might see a LaTeX error message at the bottom of the page. ->=20 -> I tried to find how to set the wrap line option in=20 +> +> I tried to find how to set the wrap line option in > preferences but could not. > @@ -13755,50 +8660,19 @@ rest of the page was due to a bug in the way ZWiki treated the first paragraph which contained a :: formatting instruction. By adding the initial heading, it seems to be possible to work-a-round this bug. -=20 + > Sorry for the mess up and thanks for fixing up any > left-overs. ->=20 +> Not a problem. Please check it and see if it looks better to you now. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTZ2g-0001sz-Jp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 02:41:30 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTZ2f-0001sa-0x - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 02:41:29 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTZ2e-0001sC-6B - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 02:41:28 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTZ2e-0001s9-47 - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 02:41:28 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTZ7g-0002ta-8o - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 02:46:40 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5494F3CF; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:41:22 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from fmy by localhost.localdomain with local (Exim 4.60) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1FTZ2b-0001aI-Gh; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:41:25 +0200 +Date: 12 Apr 2006 08:41:25 +0200 +From: Francois Maltey To: Jay Belanger Subject: Re: Developers and Axiom - <200604051653.k35GrC104865@localhost.localdomain> - <87ek07pk56.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> <4438D01B.20402@hemmecke.de> - <87irphw5kg.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> <443B8639.9040408@hemmecke.de> - <871ww3ltkv.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> -From: Francois Maltey -Date: 12 Apr 2006 08:41:25 +0200 -Cc: list Hello all, @@ -13817,42 +8691,11 @@ It's right for my own use isn't perfect. If someone has questions about it and has good ideas we can see together how to do. -Have a good day ! - -Francois - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTZxv-0000cS-Fk - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:40:39 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTZxs-0000Za-11 - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:40:36 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTZxm-0000Vl-Lv - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:40:32 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTZxm-0000Vf-D0 - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:40:30 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FTa2o-00011w-QT - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:45:43 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3C7eQFT002254 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:40:26 +0200 +\start Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:40:35 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Jay Belanger Subject: Re: Developers and Axiom - <4438D01B.20402@hemmecke.de> <87irphw5kg.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> - <443B8639.9040408@hemmecke.de> <871ww3ltkv.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> -Cc: list Do what you think is most appropriate, somebody then might improve on it. We are all watching ;-) and after all it is important that the @@ -13873,50 +8716,12 @@ On 04/11/2006 10:56 PM, Jay Belanger wrote: > On the other hand, since there's quite a bit that could be said about > Axiom and Emacs, and it might be easier to navigate if it's broken > down into sections. -> -> Jay -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTa04-00026C-GX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:42:52 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTa01-000250-SY - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:42:49 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTa00-00023S-Aq - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:42:48 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTZzz-00023J-VZ - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:42:48 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTa52-0001Hk-KQ - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:48:00 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBF64F3D7; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:42:40 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k3C7eotZ022395; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:40:50 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k3C7eo3p022394; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:40:50 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 12 Apr 2006 09:40:50 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Jay Belanger Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch - <87acarluaw.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 12 Apr 2006 09:40:50 +0200 -Cc: Axiom developers Jay Belanger writes: @@ -13980,39 +8785,10 @@ above) and fire only if needed. Indeed. I'm very suspicious of that duplication. Tim do you know why we have gottten that overwrite? - -Many thanks for your investigation! - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTaEg-0003Sk-DN - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:57:58 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTaEe-0003Qq-GL - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:57:56 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTaEd-0003Pq-FO - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:57:56 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTaEd-0003PS-81 - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:57:55 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FTaJf-00030M-Pj - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 04:03:08 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3C7vrFT002497 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) - for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:57:53 +0200 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:58:02 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: axiom-dev +To: list Subject: Re: [Events] (new) Hi Bill, @@ -14029,42 +8805,10 @@ content of the page. Ralf -On 04/12/2006 03:41 AM, Bill Page wrote: -> Changes http://axiom.risc.uni-linz.ac.at/mathaction/Events/diff -> -- -> Please post notices and information about events, conferences -> and meetings related to Axiom and computer algebra here. -> -- -> forwarded from http://axiom.risc.uni-linz.ac.at/mathaction/Events#msg20060412034102+0200@axiom.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTbRk-0005BL-RI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 05:15:32 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTbRj-0005Au-11 - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 05:15:31 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTbRi-0005AX-CE - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 05:15:30 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTbRi-0005AT-7x - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 05:15:30 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FTbWl-000315-ME - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 05:20:43 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3C9FRFT004054 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) - for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:15:28 +0200 +\start Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:15:36 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: axiom-dev +To: list Subject: AxiomWiki TOC Is there a simple way of writing a "table of contents" of a page at the @@ -14080,121 +8824,31 @@ for doing this. 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Zwiki considers the first paragraph (up to a certain length) to be the page's summary and uses that in recent changes, search keywords and other places. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTedo-00020U-5C - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:40:12 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTedm-0001zx-Ph - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:40:10 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTedl-0001z4-2M - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:40:10 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTedk-0001yr-N5 - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:40:08 -0400 -Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1FTeiq-0000Zu-3k - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:45:24 -0400 -Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTede-0006vt-Ha - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:40:02 +0200 -Received: from 69-160-148-143.vnnyca.adelphia.net ([69.160.148.143]) - by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) - id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 - for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:40:02 +0200 -Received: from simon by 69-160-148-143.vnnyca.adelphia.net with local (Gmexim - 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 - for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:40:02 +0200 -To: list -From: Simon Michael Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 05:37:32 -0700 +From: Simon Michael +To: list Subject: Re: AxiomWiki TOC The only simple way is to use the .. contents:: directive of the "restructured text" page type.. but that page type doesn't support LaTeX, axiom and the rest. Bill and I were just discussing it. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTeqZ-0004Nc-He - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:53:23 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTeqX-0004NN-7R - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:53:21 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTeqV-0004Mh-Av - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:53:20 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTeqV-0004Md-7r - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:53:19 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTeva-0002G4-TM - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:58:35 -0400 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3CCrDGn017050; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:53:13 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024EB7F407; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:53:13 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3CDdvg17337; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:39:57 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:39:57 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Thu, 06 Apr 2006 23:21:33 +0200) Subject: Re: Latex Package problem - <200604061733.k36HX2H05961@localhost.localdomain> - <4435865D.9010805@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list re: Final @@ -14205,40 +8859,10 @@ I believe it was sent to me while we were busy trying to demonstrate the use of hyperlinking in graph structures. I'll remove it in the next release. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTesn-0005KM-LV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:55:41 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTesm-0005JY-96 - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:55:40 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTesl-0005J6-Iz - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:55:39 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTesl-0005J3-AT - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:55:39 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTexr-0002Xu-13 - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:00:55 -0400 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3CCtafa019016; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:55:36 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4577F40C; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:55:36 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3CDgKe17341; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:42:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:42:20 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: Re: [SkypeName] (new) > Peer to peer voice service. Users may call each other computer-to-computer @@ -14251,43 +8875,11 @@ searching for my email address). I'm generally available on gaim (pelzel000) -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTewO-0006Wk-Do - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:59:24 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTewN-0006W1-5W - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:59:23 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTewM-0006VT-GX - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:59:22 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTewM-0006VN-94 - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:59:22 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTf1R-0002x5-UR - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:04:38 -0400 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3CCxIx6021643; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:59:18 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3B57F408; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:59:19 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3CDk2v17356; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:46:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:46:02 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 07 Apr 2006 11:54:27 +0200) Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch -Cc: list > I would like to discuss the organization of branches and procedures. @@ -14306,43 +8898,11 @@ to the build procedures. Bill is quite interested in doing things like building Axiom on native GCL and native noweb, both of which I've rejected. A silver build can do anything you want. -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTf1H-00007a-E4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:04:27 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTf1F-00007K-RT - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:04:25 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTf1E-00006d-OW - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:04:25 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTf1E-00006Z-HN - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:04:24 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTf6J-0003SH-Tt - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:09:40 -0400 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3CD4KPe024227; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:04:20 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1DA7F406; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:04:20 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3CDp4S17361; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:51:04 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:51:04 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 07 Apr 2006 11:54:27 +0200) Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch -Cc: list > I just spoke with Benjamin (in CC:), from Red Hat, about possible > inclusion of Axiom in linux distros, and Red Hat in particular. That @@ -14358,47 +8918,11 @@ Doyen as a 'science platform' at conferences provided it was built on fedora. Jose Alfredo has moved it from Knoppix to Fedora in the latest release (http://sourceforge.net/projects/doyencd) -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTf2c-0000YF-Lk - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:05:50 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTf2b-0000Xm-3O - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:05:49 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTf2Z-0000XD-CO - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:05:48 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTf2Z-0000XA-8W - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:05:47 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTf7e-0003f1-Tk - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:11:03 -0400 -Received: from mua-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3CD5ZdO020076; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:05:40 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-3.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7557F408; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:05:37 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3CDqLA17366; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:52:21 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:52:21 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Frederic Lehobey - on Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:13:02 +0200) Subject: Re: Compiling Axiom from arch source on Debian sarge - <200604061807.k36I7lA06061@localhost.localdomain> - <20060406175854.GB8550@melusine> - <200604061917.k36JHDn06180@localhost.localdomain> - <20060407131302.GA5222@melusine> -Cc: list > > unfortunately, due to the awk scripts (and a failure of the clean stanza) > > this is not enough. you need to removed two awk scripts and all of @@ -14416,42 +8940,11 @@ Cc: list I'll fix the 'make clean' in the next release. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTfBC-0007Qa-49 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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- Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:01:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:01:19 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Frederic Lehobey - on Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:25:59 +0200) Subject: Re: Latex Package problem -Cc: list > I am just compiling patch-47 axiom on standard debian sarge. > @@ -14469,39 +8962,11 @@ Alternatively you can build Axiom and see the latex output on the console: will cause the latex output to appear. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTfIY-000270-Gd - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:22:18 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTfIW-00026N-Bd - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:22:16 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTfIU-00025f-QN - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:22:16 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTfIU-00025c-Ns - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:22:14 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FTfNa-0005n8-BR - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:27:30 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3CDM4Ri009960 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:22:04 +0200 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:22:13 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch - <200604121346.k3CDk2v17356@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list On 04/12/2006 03:46 PM, root wrote: >> I would like to discuss the organization of branches and procedures. @@ -14523,43 +8988,11 @@ SilverAxiom and it lives under ~/silver/${MNT}/${SYS}. Exactly the same if you check out from the axiom--main--1 (gold) archive to ~/gold you get a GoldAxiom under ~/gold/${MNT}/${SYS}. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTfoI-00071B-BE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:55:06 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTfoH-00070E-E7 - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:55:05 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTfoF-0006yA-K6 - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:55:04 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTfoF-0006xl-CI - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:55:03 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTftL-0001t5-KC - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:00:19 -0400 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3CDsqAe013669; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:54:58 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C737F40B; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:54:50 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3CEfYe17422; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:41:34 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:41:34 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Raymond Rogers Subject: Re: FC5: rsync, lsp, 2412, etc - <200604011617.k31GH6U30230@localhost.localdomain> - <4436EED5.50001@plaidheron.com> -Cc: list > Tim, > Evidently you moved the bash fix into CVS. The make staggers on. @@ -14568,43 +9001,11 @@ Cc: list src/include/xpm.h -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTgSZ-0001mE-Lh - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:36:43 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTgSX-0001lN-Tf - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:36:41 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTgSU-0001kV-PR - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:36:41 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTgSU-0001kF-HX - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:36:38 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTgXb-0006jd-9c - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:41:55 -0400 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3CEaRlI002274; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:36:32 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E8D7F405; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:36:29 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3CFNDq17433; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:23:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:23:13 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Frederic Lehobey - on Sat, 8 Apr 2006 23:47:06 +0200) Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch - <003c01c65b52$f6502050$6900a8c0@asus> <20060408214706.GA7721@melusine> -Cc: list > Storing binary files in a source code archive is something that > I have always objected to, but Tim insists on re-distributing @@ -14692,44 +9093,11 @@ the upstream systems become the standard in most distributions. I still hold the fundamental philosophy that 'Axiom should just work'. -Tim - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTgWF-0004ZW-MP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:40:31 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTgWD-0004Yg-8z - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:40:29 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTgWB-0004Xf-NV - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:40:28 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTgWB-0004XT-EM - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:40:27 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTgbI-00078z-1O - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:45:44 -0400 -Received: from mua-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3CEeGww003856; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:40:21 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-3.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2267F410; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:40:18 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3CFR2W17441; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:27:02 -0400 +\start Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:27:02 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Frederic Lehobey - on Sun, 9 Apr 2006 00:47:52 +0200) Subject: Re: Latex Package problem - <002801c65a51$d239ec20$04000100@asus> <20060408224752.GB7721@melusine> -Cc: list > +% > +% 2006-04-08. The original (correct) usepackage line below @@ -14747,44 +9115,11 @@ Cc: list patch applied. fixed in the next release -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTgbS-0007Vf-5P - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:45:54 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTgbQ-0007Tn-ND - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:45:52 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTgbP-0007RU-2E - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:45:52 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTgbO-0007RJ-TB - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:45:50 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTggV-0007r3-LO - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:51:07 -0400 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3CEjmk2014515; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:45:48 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC497F404; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:45:48 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3CFWVl17448; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:32:31 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:32:31 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Raymond Rogers Subject: Re: FC5 success (well sort of) -Cc: list - -Raymond, - > cd axiom > ./configure @@ -14800,44 +9135,11 @@ This is odd. The src/hyper/Makefile explicitly does: which should make it executable. It is executable in my builds. Where does this happen to you? -Tim - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTgdx-00016Z-53 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:48:29 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTgdv-00016D-Et - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:48:27 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTgdt-00015S-FI - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:48:26 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTgdt-00015O-AH - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:48:25 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTgj0-0008Ac-17 - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:53:42 -0400 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3CEmJbk015871; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:48:19 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C0F7F40A; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:48:20 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3CFZ3p17469; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:35:03 -0400 +\start Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:35:03 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Raymond Rogers Subject: Re: FC5 success (well sort of) -Cc: list - -Raymond, > To get a functioning axiom on Fedora 5 as of 4/10/06 @@ -14856,45 +9158,11 @@ a problem so it was not included. I'll look into the issue when I do the FC5 build. I may have to recreate the library as part of the FC5 install process. -Tim - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTghl-00045P-Fe - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:52:25 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTghk-00044o-3y - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:52:24 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTghh-00043l-Vr - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:52:23 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTghh-00043a-2c - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:52:21 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTgmn-0000Rz-SD - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:57:38 -0400 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3CEqBwu009382; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:52:16 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A077F407; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:52:12 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3CFcv717473; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:38:57 -0400 +\start Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:38:57 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Jay Belanger - on Sat, 08 Apr 2006 21:17:41 -0500) Subject: Re: Developers and Axiom - <200604051653.k35GrC104865@localhost.localdomain> - <87ek07pk56.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> -Cc: list > But you need half the screen devoted to a shell, which really > shouldn't be necessary. Why not simply have a command which runs the @@ -14914,43 +9182,11 @@ make command line which it remembers. I don't find 'half a screen' to be a limitation. My head is a very small space and is the primary limitation. -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTgjC-0004Tb-0Y - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:53:54 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTgjA-0004Sj-3L - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:53:52 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTgj8-0004SO-Dd - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:53:51 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTgj8-0004SL-Bl - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:53:50 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTgoF-0000b7-65 - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:59:07 -0400 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3CErlIS019401; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:53:47 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DE17F408; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:53:47 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3CFeVH17477; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:40:31 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:40:31 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Antoine Hersen - (Antoine Hersen) Subject: Re: Speeding up Aldor domain compilation -Cc: list > Compilation take over 3 minutes. Mostly when compiling the generated lisp code. > @@ -14958,44 +9194,11 @@ Cc: list ummm, coffee break? :-) -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTgnV-0006Mm-Fi - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:58:21 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTgnT-0006MI-Pc - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:58:19 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTgnS-0006Lq-FW - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:58:19 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTgnS-0006Ln-8r - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:58:18 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTgsZ-0001Ii-2o - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:03:35 -0400 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3CEw5RK012264; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:58:10 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614CC7F406; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:58:07 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3CFipZ17491; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:44:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:44:51 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Sun, 09 Apr 2006 11:05:17 +0200) -Subject: Re: Patch : Remove warning message when comipiling - with aldor - <4438CE4D.9070806@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list +Subject: Re: Patch : Remove warning message when comipiling with aldor > % !! DO NOT MODIFY THIS FILE BY HAND !! Created by ht.awk. > @@ -15012,43 +9215,12 @@ However, the divorce is not really a good philosophy and we need to make the whole hypertex documentation into pamphlet files eventually. Kai's work will lead to a better situation in the future. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTh7V-0002PY-08 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:19:01 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTh7R-0002Oa-TV - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:18:57 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTh7Q-0002OK-Rs - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:18:57 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTh7Q-0002O8-La - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:18:56 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FThCX-0004Mf-RM - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:24:14 -0400 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3CFIpLK001238; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:18:51 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8E77F40B; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:18:51 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3CG5YS17502; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:05:34 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:05:34 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Sun, 09 Apr 2006 12:29:15 +0200) Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch - <4438E1FB.1010101@hemmecke.de> -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, list +Cc: Frederic Lehobey > Well Axiom is doing similar things with GCL. Even more, GCL is part of > the Axiom archive. Hmmm... @@ -15151,46 +9323,12 @@ that you're building a C program. ASDF is the lispish equivalent. There is not much use for a 'standard screwdriver' in a project that uses nails. -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTh9u-000393-Ke - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:21:30 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTh9s-00038Z-UK - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:21:28 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTh9r-00037v-9G - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:21:28 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTh9r-00037n-5Z - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:21:27 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FThEy-0004he-CG - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:26:44 -0400 -Received: from mua-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3CFLMuh002772; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:21:22 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-1.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5157F414; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:21:22 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3CG85Q17506; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:08:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:08:05 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: David Mentre - Sun, 09 Apr 2006 16:13:23 +0200) -Subject: Re: Removing external binaries from Axiom source tree: a proposal - (was: Re: Axiom silver branch) - <87bqva3kho.fsf@linux-france.org> -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, list +Subject: Re: Removing external binaries from Axiom source tree: a proposal (was: Re: Axiom silver branch) +Cc: Frederic Lehobey > > Storing binary files in a source code archive is something that > > I have always objected to, but Tim insists on re-distributing @@ -15219,43 +9357,11 @@ I suggest that you try this using the SVN/silver machinery. It is easy to create a new silver makefile from the Makefile.pamphlet which will no longer depend on the installed GCL and noweb. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FThF6-00050Q-QS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:26:52 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FThF6-000508-9P - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:26:52 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FThF4-0004z7-IF - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:26:51 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FThF4-0004yz-C9 - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:26:50 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FThKB-0005YL-H1 - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:32:07 -0400 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3CFQdwL025962; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:26:44 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0567F408; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:26:41 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3CGDPc17510; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:13:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:13:25 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Raymond Rogers Subject: Re: FC5 success (well sort of) - <1144591334.3678.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> - <4439299C.8010808@plaidheron.com> -Cc: list >> The text entry in the browser window doesn't seem to work > @@ -15265,41 +9371,12 @@ Cc: list This has been added to the FAQ file. It will be available in the next release --t - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FThJx-00016o-HS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:31:53 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FThJw-00014V-2f - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:31:52 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FThJu-00011e-CP - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:31:51 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FThJt-00011M-Vg - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:31:50 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FThP1-0006KY-8q - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:37:07 -0400 -Received: from mua-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3CFVYgG028487; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:31:39 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-3.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0D97F40E; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:31:36 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3CGIJm17524; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:18:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:18:19 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 09 Apr 2006 20:06:41 +0200) Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch - -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, list +Cc: Frederic Lehobey > | The second patch was suggested by Norman Ramsey (author of noweb) > | a couple of years ago. It provides a simple awk script to allow @@ -15325,44 +9402,12 @@ of systems. Whatever solution gets proposed it should 'just work'. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FThpE-0005an-CA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:04:12 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FThpD-0005Zy-1J - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:04:11 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FThp8-0005WH-Qq - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:04:10 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FThp7-0005Vm-Mm - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:04:06 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FThuF-0002MV-4n - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:09:23 -0400 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3CG3pOE012883; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:03:56 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166577F405; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:03:53 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3CGobp17545; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:50:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:50:37 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 09 Apr 2006 20:12:43 +0200) Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch - <4438E1FB.1010101@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, list +Cc: Frederic Lehobey > I'm not proposing this seriously, but thought it worths mentioning: > in the Perl community, the updated can compute the dependencies, and @@ -15422,47 +9467,11 @@ that it is a reasonable idea. But if installing axiom requires installing gcl and installing gcl requires installing/upgrading emacs there is no hope. -The Old Curmudgeon -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FThwb-0002Fy-SW - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:11:49 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FThwa-0002FE-5H - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:11:48 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FThwY-0002ET-CL - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:11:47 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FThwY-0002EJ-41 - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:11:46 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTi1f-0003NX-SF - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:17:04 -0400 -Received: from mua-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3CGBYFR017118; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:11:39 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-3.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C417F406; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:11:36 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3CGwKS17566; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:58:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:58:20 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Jay Belanger - on Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:15:11 -0500) Subject: Re: Developers and Axiom - <200604051653.k35GrC104865@localhost.localdomain> - <87ek07pk56.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> <4438D01B.20402@hemmecke.de> - <87irphw5kg.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> -Cc: list Jay, @@ -15478,43 +9487,11 @@ You have my ok. If I publish to this list (as opposed to a private email communication) you and anyone else has blanket permission to do with it what you will. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTiAU-0003RF-2k - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:26:10 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTiAS-0003PG-Sk - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:26:08 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTiAR-0003Mo-DL - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:26:08 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTiAR-0003MZ-5S - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:26:07 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTiFZ-0005GH-2y - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:31:25 -0400 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3CGQ3lT015771; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:26:03 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0010A7F406; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:26:03 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3CHClG17580; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:12:47 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:12:47 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Jay Belanger - on Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:51:27 -0500) Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch - <8764lflttc.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> -Cc: list > Calling make will do the following (as near as I can tell): > make noweb @@ -15540,40 +9517,12 @@ Cc: list I'll look into this. It hasn't been an issue in the past but it appears to be unnecessary work. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTiBF-0004KD-AI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:26:57 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTiBE-0004IT-BW - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:26:56 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTiBC-0004Eu-Hl - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:26:55 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTiBC-0004Ei-9x - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:26:54 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FTiGK-0005L2-17 - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:32:12 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3CGQiRi016429 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:26:44 +0200 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:26:53 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch - - <200604121650.k3CGobp17545@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, list +Cc: Frederic Lehobey Hi Tim, @@ -15597,46 +9546,11 @@ You said that now Axiom (via gcl) depends on Emacs, but I guess you don't want to include emacs into axiom--main--1, do you? (Otherwise axiom does not "just work". ;-) ) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTjdt-00047f-49 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:00:37 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTjdr-00045h-95 - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:00:35 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTjdq-00044L-3u - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:00:34 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTjdp-000440-Ro - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:00:33 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTjiy-0001BL-EE - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:05:52 -0400 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3CI0OmR032049; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:00:30 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94747F406; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:00:24 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3CIl5O17630; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:47:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:47:05 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:22:13 +0200) Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch - <200604121346.k3CDk2v17356@localhost.localdomain> - <443CFF05.9030800@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list - -Ralf, > On 04/12/2006 03:46 PM, root wrote: > >> I would like to discuss the organization of branches and procedures. @@ -15662,45 +9576,12 @@ The point is that a 'silver' section of the root Makefile.pamphlet would allow you to completely change the build behavior of the system. So you don't have to build lisp, for instance. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTjkW-0007WW-2m - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:07:28 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTjkU-0007W9-Dl - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:07:26 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTjkS-0007Vr-SH - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:07:25 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTjkS-0007Vo-Kh - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:07:24 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTjpb-0001rA-DE - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:12:43 -0400 -Received: from mua-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3CI7GTQ002692; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:07:16 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-1.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0FB67F413; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:07:15 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3CIrvZ17643; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:53:57 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:53:57 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:26:53 +0200) Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch - - <200604121650.k3CGobp17545@localhost.localdomain> - <443D2A4D.4040705@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, Frederic Lehobey +Cc: Frederic Lehobey > > Axiom as it exists now > > a) depends on very little @@ -15735,42 +9616,12 @@ That way Axiom 'just works'. Curiously the issue first arises on a debian system which is supposed to be really good at the whole dependency handling. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTkdP-0005mP-0y - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:04:11 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTkdN-0005lc-CY - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:04:09 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTkdL-0005l2-Sx - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:04:09 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTkdL-0005kz-Ns - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:04:07 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FTkiU-0008Ru-Ll - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:09:27 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3CJ3vRi020640 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:03:57 +0200 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:04:04 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Axiom silver branch - - <200604121650.k3CGobp17545@localhost.localdomain> - <443D2A4D.4040705@hemmecke.de> - <200604121853.k3CIrvZ17643@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: Frederic Lehobey, list +Cc: Frederic Lehobey >> You said that now Axiom (via gcl) depends on Emacs, but I guess you >> don't want to include emacs into axiom--main--1, do you? (Otherwise @@ -15807,45 +9658,12 @@ arguments Hmmm. the above line looks like a bug in ./configure. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTosW-0005Jl-CV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:36:04 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTosU-0005J7-2L - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:36:02 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTosT-0005IR-1p - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:36:01 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTosS-0005IL-VC - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:36:00 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FToxe-0005Oc-OS - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:41:23 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3CNZvEC025064 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) - for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:35:57 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3CNZvOu025061 - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:35:57 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:35:57 -0700 From: Bob McElrath -To: "'axiom-dev'" - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SWTRyWv/ijrBap1m" +To: list Subject: backups - ---SWTRyWv/ijrBap1m - Is the backup at http://axiom.risc.uni-linz.ac.at/ and the main mathaction wiki synchronized? i.e. if someone makes a change on the risc.uni-linz.ac.at site, does it get propagated to the main site? If @@ -15854,64 +9672,14 @@ will just cause headaches if people use it. (In fact, it is probably best to keep it offline to prevent google discovering it and leading people to use it) --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---SWTRyWv/ijrBap1m - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFEPY7djwioWRGe9K0RAiOLAJwPtlG3ASiEsL6UKvEWDNq5/IbirACdE+fr -MPekMj1tqn4Mxuss/YagM5U= -=JSj5 ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---SWTRyWv/ijrBap1m-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTpNh-0003by-Ed - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:08:17 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTpNf-0003bk-GN - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:08:15 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTpNd-0003bR-PT - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:08:15 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTpNd-0003bK-LP - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:08:13 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTpSp-0008Qf-Vy - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:13:36 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 00A026891B; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:08:10 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 1BB8E68938; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:08:08 -0400 (EDT) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: backups +\start Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:08:07 -0400 -Thread-Topic: backups -Thread-Index: AcZeieJ3pBzKd6W2RPywU0rOoN65UgAAVsjg From: Bill Page -To: "Bob McElrath" -Cc: axiom-dev +To: Bob McElrath +Subject: RE: backups On Wednesday, April 12, 2006 7:36 Bob McElrath wrote: ->=20 +> > Is the backup at http://axiom.risc.uni-linz.ac.at/ and the > main mathaction wiki synchronized? i.e. if someone makes > a change on the axiom.risc.uni-linz.ac.at site, does it @@ -15959,47 +9727,11 @@ given our current very limited resources it might be prudent to try to concentrate our efforts on less ambitious goals. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTpV8-0006Ui-Rn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:15:58 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTpV6-0006Sm-VU - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:15:57 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTpV5-0006Ql-BS - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:15:56 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTpV5-0006Qb-4K - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:15:55 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FTpaH-0000fD-FG - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:21:17 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3D0Fr4L025488 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:15:53 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3D0FrMx025485; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:15:53 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:15:53 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page Subject: Re: backups - axiom-dev - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="V32M1hWVjliPHW+c" -Cc: axiom-dev - - ---V32M1hWVjliPHW+c Page, Bill [Bill Page] wrote: > On Wednesday, April 12, 2006 7:36 Bob McElrath wrote: @@ -16044,63 +9776,11 @@ Links to the other site for large downloads would be a good idea though. On the web, who can tell? --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---V32M1hWVjliPHW+c - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFEPZg5jwioWRGe9K0RAj54AKDS3zhWgGST3CvrywKsocW81FEthQCeLGzd -TG/knKFE95Jhd90ovb/Lur4= -=3lBO ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---V32M1hWVjliPHW+c-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTpqe-0000gE-8g - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:38:12 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTpqc-0000fc-Re - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:38:10 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTpqa-0000eh-TL - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:38:10 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTpqa-0000ea-Ko - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:38:08 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTpvn-00035A-85 - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:43:31 -0400 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3D0c3cL007884; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:38:05 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2988B7F40B; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:38:04 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3D1Ojg17765; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:24:45 -0400 +\start Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:24:45 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bob McElrath - on Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:15:53 -0700) Subject: Re: backups - <20060413001553.GE8144@mcelrath.org> -Cc: list We do need a mirror site because all of our information is in one place. This was brought home clearly by a hardware failure which, fortunately, @@ -16126,48 +9806,11 @@ to work with them locally and support their efforts. In the long term I think the association is at least as important as the backup/mirror, if not more so. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTpwT-0003CJ-Lh - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:44:13 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTpwS-0003Bl-9v - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:44:12 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTpwQ-0003B3-Ib - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:44:11 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTpwQ-0003Ay-DR - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:44:10 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FTq1c-0003i0-SL - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:49:33 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3D0i79V025717 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:44:07 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3D0i7Ps025714; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:44:07 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:44:07 -0700 From: Bob McElrath -To: root Tim Daly +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: backups - Bill Page, list - <20060413001553.GE8144@mcelrath.org> - <200604130124.k3D1Ojg17765@localhost.localdomain> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CNK/L7dwKXQ4Ub8J" -Cc: list - - ---CNK/L7dwKXQ4Ub8J root [Tim Daly] wrote: > We do need a mirror site because all of our information is in one place. @@ -16184,70 +9827,20 @@ I wasn't arguing against backups ;) I hope that is successful! --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---CNK/L7dwKXQ4Ub8J - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFEPZ7XjwioWRGe9K0RAvW9AKC8hXcIJggcsmdhlIC5tLJGEdxUNQCdHTL6 -0qjmXnjmyGZo895yqJZ7wXo= -=zEv0 ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---CNK/L7dwKXQ4Ub8J-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTsHD-00031S-NO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:13:47 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTsHC-00030q-By - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:13:46 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTsH9-0002zW-Oz - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:13:44 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTsH9-0002zN-DE - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:13:43 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTsMN-0001Ii-IP - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:19:07 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id A5E0868FA8; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:13:42 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 13BED68FA4; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:13:41 -0400 (EDT) - charset="us-ascii" +\start Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:13:40 -0400 -Thread-Topic: [GeneralDiscussion] Plone Bibliography -Thread-Index: AcZeppp6QMonksGdQ2iKRtBApAP6DgAAEUCA From: Bill Page -To: -Cc: axiom-dev +To: list Subject: [GeneralDiscussion] Plone Bibliography Bob McElrath wrote: ->=20 +> > I was looking at Plone again today for the portal I'm developing, > and was wondering...what the heck do you do with the bibliography? > I see you're using it on mathaction, but is it any better than a > glorified list? Can I \cite{important_paper} to make citations > appear? Much googling couldn't answer this question for me... ->=20 +> Import bibtex citations into a database. Edit citations. Search the database (along with the rest of the contents of the portal). @@ -16260,68 +9853,39 @@ more transparent, extracting citations from the Plone bibliography database and running bibtex all automatically... :) By-golly it's easy to get overly ambitious! - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTsJR-00055w-RF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:16:05 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTsJQ-00055I-7g - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:16:04 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTsJO-000548-K6 - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:16:03 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTsJO-000541-3h - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:16:02 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTsOc-0001mG-9x - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:21:26 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 5FA7F68FAA; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:16:01 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 6E6B768F9F; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:15:59 -0400 (EDT) - charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:15:59 -0400 -Thread-Topic: darcsweb source code repository browser (was: victory!) -Thread-Index: AcZeipgndjeXOr2uQl+bl4rnyY3HJwAGixOw From: Bill Page -To: "Simon Michael" Simon Michael -Cc: axiom-dev -Subject: darcsweb source code repository browser (was: - victory!) +To: Simon Michael +Subject: darcsweb source code repository browser (was: victory!) -Simon,=20 +Simon, On Wednesday, April 12, 2006 7:42 PM you wrote: -> Bill Page:=20 +> Bill Page: > > How can you tell which are duplicates? -> > =20 -> You'll see them in darcsweb once it's working, or just in=20 -> darcs changes=20 -> - they have the same title and (which I think is the=20 +> > +> You'll see them in darcsweb once it's working, or just in +> darcs changes +> - they have the same title and (which I think is the > clincher) the same timestamp, I think. > > > still am not able to fully use 'darcsweb'. I have darcsweb-0.15 > > running under python2.4.2 with darcs 1.0.5 installed here -> I'm using the latest darcsweb pulled from=20 +> I'm using the latest darcsweb pulled from > http://users.auriga.wearlab.de/~alb/repos/darcsweb > - not sure what version that is - and python 2.4.2. ->=20 +> Ok, I added an explicit path to darcs: -- #darcspath =3D "/home/me/bin/" -+ darcspath =3D "/usr/local/bin/" +- #darcspath = "/home/me/bin/" ++ darcspath = "/usr/local/bin/" and provided a cache -- #cachedir =3D '/tmp/darcsweb-cache' -+ cachedir =3D '/tmp' +- #cachedir = '/tmp/darcsweb-cache' ++ cachedir = '/tmp' and now darcsweb works on MathAction: @@ -16331,57 +9895,21 @@ I think this is a really cool way to browse the souce code! It's a bit slow with a big repository like axiom--main--1 but the annotations and shading are very nice. E.g. -http://page.axiom-developer.org/darcsweb.cgi?r=3Daxiom--main--1;a=3Dannot= +http://page.axiom-developer.org/darcsweb.cgi?r=axiom--main--1;a=annot= ate -_shade;f=3D/Makefile +_shade;f=/Makefile and the searching is quite impressive, e.g. -http://page.axiom-developer.org/darcsweb.cgi?r=3Daxiom--main--1&a=3Dsearc= +http://page.axiom-developer.org/darcsweb.cgi?r=axiom--main--1&a=searc= h&s -=3Dclifford +=clifford -Regards, -Bill Page - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTsP1-00086K-L2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:21:51 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTsOz-000851-4Z - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:21:49 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTsOx-000848-Ag - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:21:48 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTsOx-000841-38 - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:21:47 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FTsUB-0002YN-1u - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:27:11 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3D3Lgm4026896 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:21:42 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3D3LgRO026893; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:21:42 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f +\start Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:21:42 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page Subject: Re: [GeneralDiscussion] Plone Bibliography - axiom-dev - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KN5l+BnMqAQyZLvT" -Cc: axiom-dev , zwiki@zwiki.org - - ---KN5l+BnMqAQyZLvT Page, Bill [Bill Page] wrote: > Bob McElrath wrote: @@ -16418,61 +9946,11 @@ The bibliography is already there (or at least accessable on SPIRES and the arXiv) so all that is needed is for the wiki page to recognize the \cite. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---KN5l+BnMqAQyZLvT - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFEPcPGjwioWRGe9K0RAt+zAKDDcBFJPEe2tXvzO7y5PsKesm+WyQCfQT+P -1ZgWaI3KEDOhj/pbvN+Ze8c= -=1n8j ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---KN5l+BnMqAQyZLvT-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTsWo-0002A8-As - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:29:54 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTsWn-00029v-PQ - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:29:53 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTsWm-00029C-8l - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:29:53 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTsWm-000296-3p - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:29:52 -0400 -Received: from [68.142.201.192] (helo=web31712.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTsc0-0003FA-Cn - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:35:16 -0400 -Received: (qmail 99952 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Apr 2006 03:28:20 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=0qePf/wqF3EOQ0MZoufCpSc97JJFJyU4IhIyC/Rm5QdpBTfe29JtaKaGzQaC9S88tNX6Qo8MNOAWMGq/RPeXnhEZx3yJewOz+FzDTl4htMMT1AifG5eO64tsdwDWmcjRUVknGzqrvRI2XPsBEs6mUM8kR503dXM1HG3V+D1ireQ= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31712.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:28:20 PDT +\start Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:28:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: darcsweb source code repository browser (was: - victory!) To: Bill Page, Simon Michael -Cc: axiom-dev - ---- Bill Page wrote: +Subject: Re: darcsweb source code repository browser (was: victory!) > and now darcsweb works on MathAction: > @@ -16487,46 +9965,11 @@ darcsweb! Thanks for another amazing new feature! -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTshZ-0000ri-O7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:41:01 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTshX-0000qg-DI - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:40:59 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTshV-0000pa-Nb - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:40:59 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTshV-0000pT-Gr - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:40:57 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTsmi-0004Vo-OV - for list; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:46:22 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 960C769094; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:40:55 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 5E0576908B; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:40:53 -0400 (EDT) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: [GeneralDiscussion] Plone Bibliography +\start Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:40:53 -0400 -Thread-Topic: [GeneralDiscussion] Plone Bibliography -Thread-Index: AcZeqWoptCSl68dMTDSEmYJGYeQ7fQAAFm/g From: Bill Page -To: "Bob McElrath" -Cc: axiom-dev +To: Bob McElrath +Subject: RE: [GeneralDiscussion] Plone Bibliography On Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:22 PM Bob McElrath wrote: > .. @@ -16536,7 +9979,7 @@ On Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:22 PM Bob McElrath wrote: > > more transparent, extracting citations from the Plone > > bibliography database and running bibtex all automatically... > > :) By-golly it's easy to get overly ambitious! ->=20 +> > I don't know if that's overly ambitious, but at least in my > field we have arXiv.org references such as hep-ph/0509024 which > would be easy to parse and make a link to the arXiv, as well as @@ -16548,7 +9991,7 @@ a search key to retrieve and parse the citation info... I think that is ambitious. Are there any web tools for arXiv that make this easier? ->=20 +> > I want to make it as easy as possible for people to add a > \cite{blah}. @@ -16559,7 +10002,7 @@ published document. That is not easy in general. > The bibliography is already there (or at least accessable on > SPIRES and the arXiv) so all that is needed is for the wiki > page to recognize the \cite. ->=20 +> Parsing static data like 'hep-ph/0509024' into a clickable url is easy but extracting and formating citation information is @@ -16585,47 +10028,11 @@ Maybe integrating something like this might be worthwhile... but beware: This a Java/JSP web application - somewhat different world that Zope and Python. ;) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTtF2-0001Qn-8h - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 00:15:36 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTtF0-0001Qi-W2 - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 00:15:35 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTtEy-0001QU-J9 - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 00:15:33 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTtEy-0001QP-8a - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 00:15:32 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FTtKC-0008Fq-TL - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 00:20:57 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3D4FUsc027452 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:15:30 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3D4FUqH027449; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:15:30 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:15:30 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page -Subject: Re: [GeneralDiscussion] Plone Bibliography - axiom-dev - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JwB53PgKC5A7+0Ej" -Cc: axiom-dev - - ---JwB53PgKC5A7+0Ej +Subject: Re: [GeneralDiscussion] Plone Bibliography list Page, Bill [Bill Page] wrote: > Do you mean online access to arXiv.org using "hep-ph/0509024" as @@ -16704,61 +10111,11 @@ crashed my browser, again. A few days before that I decided to try (again) the Java interface to Maple. UUUGGGHHHH it's slow. What's that? A fork in my eye? Aaaahhh much better. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---JwB53PgKC5A7+0Ej - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFEPdBijwioWRGe9K0RAoP4AJ9+XSePgHgTR5bn3xYyH2pa96QIWwCghoV/ -In4XZTxg4vv+YWou08TcTNs= -=+oYo ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---JwB53PgKC5A7+0Ej-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTu3S-0000gK-D1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:07:42 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTu3P-0000eN-DN - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:07:39 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTu3N-0000dl-CF - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:07:38 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTu3N-0000da-0c - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:07:37 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTu8c-0004kJ-0m - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:13:02 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id D5B1D67408; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:07:35 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id F182E670D4; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:07:33 -0400 (EDT) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: [GeneralDiscussion] Plone Bibliography +\start Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:07:33 -0400 -Thread-Topic: [GeneralDiscussion] Plone Bibliography -Thread-Index: AcZesO6uXoDr0sfgSrCa1lNGovAAJAABkTpg From: Bill Page -To: "Bob McElrath" , Bill Page -Cc: axiom-dev +To: Bob McElrath +Subject: RE: [GeneralDiscussion] Plone Bibliography On Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:16 AM Bob McElrath wrote: > ... @@ -16767,7 +10124,7 @@ On Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:16 AM Bob McElrath wrote: > > is easy but extracting and formating citation information is > > rather hard to do in general. That's why we have tools like > > BiBtex and EndNote, etc. ->=20 +> > I want to get the info out of the Plone Bibliography, Maybe \cite{axiombib/1005298} could call e.g. @@ -16777,62 +10134,25 @@ wget http://portal.axiom-developer.org/refs/axiombib/1005298/download [page@axiom-developer]# cat download @Inproceedings{1005298, - author =3D {Jacques Carette}, - title =3D {Understanding expression simplification}, - year =3D {2004}, - URL =3D + author = {Jacques Carette}, + title = {Understanding expression simplification}, + year = {2004}, + URL = {http://www.cas.mcmaster.ca/\~carette/publications/simplification.pdf}, - abstract =3D {}, - booktitle =3D {Proceedings of the 2004 international symposium on + abstract = {}, + booktitle = {Proceedings of the 2004 international symposium on Symbolic and algebraic computation}, - publisher =3D {ACM Press,}, - pages =3D {72 - 79} + publisher = {ACM Press,}, + pages = {72 - 79} } but you still have to make this bibtex entry look pretty in HTML. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTu7E-0002jH-Cn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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- Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:11:28 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:11:28 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page -Subject: Re: [GeneralDiscussion] Plone Bibliography - axiom-dev - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Yb+qhiCg54lqZFXW" -Cc: axiom-dev - - ---Yb+qhiCg54lqZFXW +Subject: Re: [GeneralDiscussion] Plone Bibliography list Page, Bill [Bill Page] wrote: > On Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:16 AM Bob McElrath wrote: @@ -16873,64 +10193,14 @@ entries) If the entry doesn't exist, it can be retreived and inserted as bibtex, and then accessed programatically using the Plone Bibliography. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---Yb+qhiCg54lqZFXW - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFEPd2AjwioWRGe9K0RAm7dAJwL36y1BpqQT5DyukCnGkfNB8jfRACfbf4c -WsIXZWtPh9ajd0oDOEOMs20= -=/gqm ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---Yb+qhiCg54lqZFXW-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTuEM-0007fI-Mf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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(The Bibliography can > already render entries) @@ -16938,55 +10208,19 @@ On Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:11 AM Bob McElrath wrote: Indeed. If you are up to the task of calling Archetypes in CMFPlone from a Wiki, then I say go for it! :) -=20 -> If the entry doesn't exist, it can be retreived and inserted=20 + +> If the entry doesn't exist, it can be retreived and inserted > as bibtex, and then accessed programatically using the Plone > Bibliography. ->=20 +> Doing this with one or two clicks would be real nice. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTuTx-00052O-AN - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:35:05 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTuTv-00051h-00 - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:35:03 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FTuTt-00051J-L8 - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:35:02 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTuTt-00051G-GF - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:35:01 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FTuZ8-0007fc-T3 - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:40:27 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3D5YxQ4027902 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:34:59 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3D5Yxq3027899; - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:34:59 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:34:59 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page -Subject: Re: [GeneralDiscussion] Plone Bibliography - axiom-dev - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8TaQrIeukR7mmbKf" -Cc: axiom-dev - - ---8TaQrIeukR7mmbKf +Subject: Re: [GeneralDiscussion] Plone Bibliography list Page, Bill [Bill Page] wrote: > On Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:11 AM Bob McElrath wrote: @@ -17008,60 +10242,11 @@ Page, Bill [Bill Page] wrote: I was thinking zero clicks. As in, add \cite{arXiv:hep-ph/0123456} to your wiki page and the rest is automatic from the user's perspective. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---8TaQrIeukR7mmbKf - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFEPeMDjwioWRGe9K0RArSqAKDJ/u+9G0w1eozdSyjR6BKAR+gP1ACfSE+d -A2qoNOnOUqmyH8Ym0trshUw= -=9wly ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---8TaQrIeukR7mmbKf-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU0YQ-0005aq-0g - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:04:06 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU0YK-0005Wd-DA - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:04:01 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU0YG-0005Sj-Kv - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:03:58 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU0YF-0005Sf-8j - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:03:55 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FU0dY-00024N-5R - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:09:24 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3DC3nRi012587 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:03:49 +0200 +\start Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:04:03 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: root Tim Daly, Bill Page, - list +To: Tim Daly, Bill Page Subject: Re: backups - <20060413004407.GG8144@mcelrath.org> -Cc: >> Besides the backup nature of the site I'm hoping that students at >> RISC will take an interest in Axiom. We would then have the ability @@ -17100,39 +10285,11 @@ offer" to become an unpaid Axiom developer? Sorry, it should read: ... to become a pioneer in the development of a next generation computer algebra and theorem proving system. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU13E-0000Mr-Sx - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:35:56 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU13D-0000LN-F9 - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:35:55 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU13B-0000Jt-UG - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:35:55 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU13B-0000Jj-Mk - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:35:53 -0400 -Received: from [64.233.162.196] (helo=zproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FU18V-0006R7-Ak - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:41:23 -0400 -Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id n29so1518651nzf - for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 05:35:52 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; - b=W/wmNw8lrAYyPPErwDnRrffUzWkYok480TIVqOlC3ADtD9IQ0QUOWhsr0rp6Vvs7xg9Eazqw48nE64AxM4vBmTvAg9Y1iGXBVSXHxxjhtRfAHjv+ljygGD/YsFm1Kf7ek+NQEG9x7ODActs75JHdUqdIaKApNWnnODuEa1BnUIs= -Received: by 10.36.126.3 with SMTP id y3mr215250nzc; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 05:35:52 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.36.134.7 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 05:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:35:52 +0200 From: David Mentre -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) -Cc: list Hello, @@ -17158,49 +10315,11 @@ is focusing developments of other aspects (graphics mode) rather than fixing those issues. The development API is not very well documented neither. -Best wishes, -d. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU3xR-0005sa-2t - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:42:09 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU3xO-0005oF-UD - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:42:06 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU3xO-0005o2-7G - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:42:06 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU3xO-0005nz-3b - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:42:06 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FU42j-0002LO-9f - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:47:37 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3DFfwPE032731 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:41:58 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3DFfwDd032728; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:41:58 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:41:58 -0700 From: Bob McElrath -To: David MENTRE David Mentre -Subject: Re: User interface, - TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) - Ralf Hemmecke, list - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="c7hkjup166d4FzgN" - clamav-milter version 0.87 on moya.mcelrath.org -Cc: list - - ---c7hkjup166d4FzgN +To: David Mentre +Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) David MENTRE [David Mentre] wrote: > > Although I am not yet a big fan of Texmacs, because it is yet another @@ -17218,76 +10337,25 @@ I started. I really think that's the way to go. What happened to Kai's branch? Can I still try it? --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---c7hkjup166d4FzgN - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFEPnFGjwioWRGe9K0RArTZAKCI78PynulWgTqgVkNYvkJZFRUtXACgjNeL -xsB4hFZ2hxIIsIxLMYhIHbc= -=K3+g ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---c7hkjup166d4FzgN-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU4HX-0008Un-P2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:02:55 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU4HU-0008SH-HV - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:02:52 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU4HR-0008Pj-Ky - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:02:51 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU4HQ-0008PG-D9 - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:02:49 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FU4Ml-0004MT-Qh - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:08:20 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 0FE08679BB; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:02:47 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 66699679E2; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:02:40 -0400 (EDT) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: User interface, - TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) +\start Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:02:39 -0400 -Thread-Topic: User interface, - TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) -Thread-Index: AcZfEN5bRykGMIrtTjelgQ2s/B4m6wAAgVCw From: Bill Page -To: "Bob McElrath" -Cc: list, David MENTRE David Mentre +To: Bob McElrath +Subject: RE: User interface, +Cc: David Mentre On Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:42 AM Bob McElrath wrote: -> ...=20 -> I wish I had enough time to further develop the mozilla/axiom=20 +> ... +> I wish I had enough time to further develop the mozilla/axiom > interface I started. I really think that's the way to go. At one point Bob, you also had a nice demo of Axiom inside a TiddlyWiki. I thought that was a really nice idea for personal use. ->=20 +> > What happened to Kai's branch? Can I still try it? ->=20 +> 'tla abrowse' shows that @@ -17305,40 +10373,11 @@ You can also browse the source online here: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--GUI--1/FrontPage -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU4UI-00080s-Sj - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:16:06 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU4UG-00080D-SX - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:16:04 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU4UF-0007zG-2F - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:16:04 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU4UE-0007zB-Uh - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:16:02 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FU4Za-0005k4-Hl - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:21:34 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3DGFsRi019551 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:15:55 +0200 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:16:12 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: David MENTRE David Mentre -Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: [Axiom-developer] - backups) -Cc: list +To: David Mentre +Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) On 04/13/2006 02:35 PM, David MENTRE wrote: > 2006/4/13, Ralf Hemmecke: @@ -17405,92 +10444,24 @@ You could say, that AxiomWiki is something like a worksheet format, but it is a bit inconvenient to work with, if you always have to press the edit button. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU4iD-0007am-B8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:30:29 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU4iB-0007Zq-Nx - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:30:27 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU4i9-0007Xw-Qr - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:30:27 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU4i9-0007Xt-Je - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:30:25 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FU4nV-00073I-IG - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:35:57 -0400 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3DGUCbr020863; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:30:17 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8427F40A; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:30:13 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3DHGvZ18397; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:16:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:16:57 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:16:12 +0200) -Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: [Axiom-developer] - backups) - <443E794C.7030805@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, David Mentre +Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) +Cc: David Mentre > Do not forget that somebody is working on a web interface (with Tim?). Yes, I have been working on an AJAX version of the browser pages. It's basically a hand rewrite using latex, javascript, etc. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU4iM-0007hb-JL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:30:38 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU4iK-0007ff-FO - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:30:36 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU4iI-0007dF-9D - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:30:35 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU4iI-0007dB-3N - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:30:34 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FU4nd-00073m-R8 - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:36:06 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3DGUVss001643 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:30:31 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3DGUUhe001640; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:30:30 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:30:30 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page -Subject: Re: User interface, - TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) - list, David MENTRE David Mentre - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SCOJXUq1iwCn05li" - clamav-milter version 0.88.1 on moya.mcelrath.org -Cc: list, David MENTRE David Mentre - - ---SCOJXUq1iwCn05li +Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) +Cc: David Mentre Page, Bill [Bill Page] wrote: > On Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:42 AM Bob McElrath wrote: @@ -17528,68 +10499,11 @@ I'm one of those annoying people with more ideas than time... Is development continuing on this? --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---SCOJXUq1iwCn05li - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFEPnymjwioWRGe9K0RAu3LAKCP/eG1G+JGaw3yDrzLgEUJYRsm+wCeK3dL -MR7R5AbXaSTzoDJM0ML4Yj0= -=sh56 ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---SCOJXUq1iwCn05li-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU4mL-0000pu-BJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:34:45 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU4mK-0000pT-3Q - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:34:44 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU4mH-0000o4-9L - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:34:42 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU4mH-0000nw-5S - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:34:41 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FU4rc-0007Kg-UV - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:40:13 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3DGYdu3001711 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:34:39 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3DGYdOe001708; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:34:39 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f +\start Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:34:39 -0700 From: Bob McElrath -To: Bill Page, axiom-dev -Subject: Re: [GeneralDiscussion] Plone Bibliography - axiom-dev - <20060413053459.GF22807@mcelrath.org> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/jkxxxtAhYIHVDuh" - clamav-milter version 0.88.1 on moya.mcelrath.org -Cc: - - ---/jkxxxtAhYIHVDuh +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: [GeneralDiscussion] Plone Bibliography list Bob McElrath wrote: > > > If the entry doesn't exist, it can be retreived and inserted @@ -17608,57 +10522,10 @@ as the wiki! I guess it's only about 5 GB. Not so useful for math, but I'll try to keep an eye out for how to expand this beyond physics. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---/jkxxxtAhYIHVDuh - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFEPn2fjwioWRGe9K0RAowEAJ4tPNA2pI+hMRdfEP7gW6HGlf3E9ACg+fSq -Pqv2oT7wwnP/rHIC4DsWP6Q= -=nAos ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---/jkxxxtAhYIHVDuh-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU6RK-0008Eo-V5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:21:10 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU6RI-0008EM-QS - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:21:08 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU6RF-0008Dt-Uv - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:21:07 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU6RF-0008DP-N0 - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:21:05 -0400 -Received: from [66.249.82.195] (helo=xproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FU6Wc-00010t-PN - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:26:38 -0400 -Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t4so1240454wxc - for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:21:04 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; - b=EjVu93SAf7wCEJGKLfbtJhDehAA2hxGhVzOX8FHOjZSKBV9wDGMbZ8U5E0wkSyn5BgEjTGB9yLl2+wswaecypSyNhQdn40M6jf5KtfSmn489lqx1fcFRYpa+CtuPoWeiGesLemMqpk4HrWqPLJqEeYIdlV+vNMJlFYzQ+aTjyD8= -Received: by 10.70.18.13 with SMTP id 13mr942863wxr; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:21:04 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.70.131.5 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:21:04 -0700 (PDT) +\start Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:21:04 -0700 -From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -To: axiom-developer +From: Antoine Hersen +To: list Subject: Problem with defining Zero Hello, @@ -17675,41 +10542,11 @@ But I am getting : Here a small exemple in the SandBox http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SanBoxZero -Any ideas ? - -Regards, -Antoine Hersen - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU7ge-0001BT-LV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:41:04 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU7gc-00019J-Py - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:41:02 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU7ga-00017J-Ts - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:41:02 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU7ga-00017B-M9 - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:41:00 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FU7lx-00089m-Vq - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:46:34 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3DJetRi026394 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:40:56 +0200 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:41:11 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Problem with defining Zero -Cc: axiom-developer Hello Antoine. @@ -17769,43 +10606,11 @@ But works. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU7gn-0001Er-Rb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:41:13 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU7gl-0001EO-Sa - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:41:11 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU7gl-0001E0-0m - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:41:11 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU7gk-0001Dx-Qz - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:41:10 -0400 -Received: from [66.249.82.198] (helo=xproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FU7m8-0008Ae-7Y - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:46:44 -0400 -Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t4so1251206wxc - for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:41:09 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; - b=QTXe2G1XRPsYlUoYMuFiT6v8AXBZmBPLlsh9YzeGxk1+dyF6/I6eF0cmdVq+A4lHNQo6wk9Wt0AqwE+ltzpViXrR6Q9ceNh4rIJziR+w2dCfNsOfKuN5aE64VqyHwgnb1Ew4qrpJsfd4/y43Jz6VVWR5hHYxWpubXkXB0r/0b9I= -Received: by 10.70.8.11 with SMTP id 11mr1057634wxh; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:41:09 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.70.131.5 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:41:09 -0700 -From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -To: axiom-developer -Subject: Re: User interface, - TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) - boundary="----=_Part_16688_31823381.1144957269581" - <20060413163030.GK22807@mcelrath.org> - -------=_Part_16688_31823381.1144957269581 +From: Antoine Hersen +To: list +Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) Hello, @@ -17892,20 +10697,20 @@ work flown( edit, compile, test)
   - An know script langange(=
+ Axiom specific
   - Ease the write of pamphlet( writing = literate programs is a lot of added work, that does not benefit the writer = that much, so we should make it easy as possible

The candidates :+ Web based, Browser based : for Mozilla=20 -http://www.xulplanet.com/ maybe u= +>+ Web based, Browser based : for Mozilla +http://www.xulplanet.com/ maybe u= sing MathML.
Personally I have mixed fealling,  it is very hip and = I will like for the tools to mature( think about Java UI for exemple Map...= )

+ TeXmacs, the screenshot does looks good.

+ My big favorite ima= -xima :
http://members3.jcom.home.ne.jp/imaxima/Site/Welcome.html

Why :
Emacs work everywhere, with extensive menu an icon it is not that = scary.

We should be able to manage pamphlet in a elegant way. And th= ink about everything that is already included, source code management, non = various charset ....

And very powerful and well documented language elisp !!!!

+ = -Start from scratch ( using http:/= +Start from scratch ( using http:/= /mcclim.cliki.net/index )

Other issue( I am sure it has been dis= cussed before) :
  - Improved documentation browser aware of pamphlet
  - I= @@ -17915,58 +10720,28 @@ br>
Regards,

Antoine Hersen

PS : About debugging it is mostly a l= anguage tools issue,
-------=_Part_16688_31823381.1144957269581-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU7lV-0003xF-8K - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:46:05 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU7lT-0003vv-M4 - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:46:03 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU7lQ-0003tD-1Y - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:46:03 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU7lP-0003tA-SZ - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:45:59 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FU7qn-0000Tl-DW - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:51:33 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 72CBE6A41F; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:45:58 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 4DFAD6A3E6; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:45:55 -0400 (EDT) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Problem with defining Zero +\start Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:45:54 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Problem with defining Zero -Thread-Index: AcZfJxGTN6UbsWbTSQ2pdbWiX8BgHAAC2ipg From: Bill Page -To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -Cc: axiom-developer +To: Antoine Hersen +Subject: RE: Problem with defining Zero On Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:21 PM Antoine Hersen wrote: ->=20 +> > I am trying to defined a zero in a domain compiled with Aldor. ->=20 +> > But I am getting : ->=20 +> > 0$NTBA(x,FRAC INT) > Internal Error > The function Zero with signature hashcode is missing from domain > UNPRINTABLE ->=20 +> > Here a small exemple in the SandBox > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SanBoxZero ->=20 +> > Any ideas ? ->=20 +> You should write '0' in Aldor instead of 'Zero'. See @@ -17974,39 +10749,11 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxZero Click 'diff' to see what I changed. -Regards, -Bill Page - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU7rQ-00084D-CU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:52:12 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU7rO-000821-2h - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:52:10 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU7rM-0007zZ-9t - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:52:08 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU7rM-0007zL-1n - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:52:08 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FU7wj-00014c-3h - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:57:41 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3DJq2Ri026946 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:52:03 +0200 +\start Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:52:18 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Problem with defining Zero -Cc: axiom-developer And here an addon to my last mail that explains why I think Axiom should not show @@ -18049,38 +10796,10 @@ woodpecker:~/scratch>aldor -grun -laldor ntba.as 0() = [0] #endif - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU7tb-0001Wv-9b - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:54:27 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU7tX-0001Tu-IJ - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:54:23 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU7tW-0001Rv-1y - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:54:23 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU7tV-0001Rk-Py - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:54:21 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FU7yt-0001KX-9w - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:59:55 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id ADEC06A720; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:54:20 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id C74AB6A6F6; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:54:18 -0400 (EDT) - charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:54:17 -0400 -Thread-Topic: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom -Thread-Index: AcZfMksuW/O94AI1S2m0vGTax72WmwAARrDQ From: Bill Page -To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -Cc: axiom-developer +To: Antoine Hersen Subject: RE: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom On Thursday, April 13, 2006 3:41 PM Antoine Hersen wrote: @@ -18100,43 +10819,11 @@ Yes, I think such a tool for Axiom would be great! 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Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU85w-0000Xd-L2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:07:12 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU85v-0000WF-8E - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:07:11 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU85t-0000UE-FO - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:07:10 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU85t-0000U3-6n - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:07:09 -0400 -Received: from [150.243.160.94] (helo=uranium.truman.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FU8BG-0002ZX-Qo - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:12:43 -0400 -Received: from uranium.truman.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 9685340B2A; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:08:58 -0500 (CDT) -Received: from vh213602.truman.edu.truman.edu (vh213602.truman.edu - [150.243.64.5]) - by uranium.truman.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CCA57A54; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:08:58 -0500 (CDT) +\start +Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:07:07 -0500 +From: Jay Belanger To: Bill Page Subject: re: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom -From: Jay Belanger -Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:07:07 -0500 - (Bill Page's message of "Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:54:17 -0400") -Cc: axiom-developer - Bill Page writes: ... @@ -18224,48 +10876,11 @@ I know that someone is working on Emacs-Axiom interaction, but I wouldn't mind working on some sort of IAxiom that could later be absorbed. -Jay - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU8Yu-0001pN-PO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:37:08 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU8Yt-0001ol-1n - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:37:07 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU8Ys-0001oR-1L - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:37:06 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU8Yr-0001oG-Qe - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:37:05 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FU8eF-0006Ok-OM - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:42:40 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3DKb2dA004530 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:37:02 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3DKb2Hx004527; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:37:02 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:37:02 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page Subject: re: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom - Antoine Hersen, - axiom-developer - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7iMSBzlTiPOCCT2k" - clamav-milter version 0.88.1 on moya.mcelrath.org -Cc: axiom-developer - - ---7iMSBzlTiPOCCT2k Page, Bill [Bill Page] wrote: > On Thursday, April 13, 2006 3:41 PM Antoine Hersen wrote: @@ -18294,62 +10909,11 @@ Getting images out of tex is a hack and always has been. 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- Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:47:15 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.78.29.14 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:47:15 -0700 (PDT) +\start Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:47:15 +0200 -From: "Pierre Doucy" Pierre Doucy -To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -Subject: Re: User interface, - TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) - <20060413163030.GK22807@mcelrath.org> - -Cc: axiom-developer +From: Pierre Doucy +To: Antoine Hersen +Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) Antoine, I very much agree with you... until you start saying that Emacs might do the trick ;-) @@ -18436,58 +11000,12 @@ sy > > Some of this issue are problems common to all open source CAS, common > solution will have more hands working on it. -> -> Regards, -> -> Antoine Hersen -> -> PS : About debugging it is mostly a language tools issue, -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> -> -> - --- -Cats are intended to teach us that not everything in nature has a function. - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU8mN-0002WB-GD - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:57:20 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU8sQ-0007DS-Qu - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:57:18 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU8sO-0007CT-UX - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:57:18 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU8sO-0007CM-Rn - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:57:16 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FU8xl-0000vF-SW - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:02:51 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 7FB456A0E0; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:57:14 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 9D4C56A056; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:57:12 -0400 (EDT) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: re: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:57:12 -0400 -Thread-Topic: RE: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom -Thread-Index: AcZfOg2ZwQuUs9oYS8W+ucjk9IlmJQAAG4eQ From: Bill Page -To: "Bob McElrath" -Cc: axiom-developer +To: Bob McElrath +Subject: re: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom On Thursday, April 13, 2006 4:37 PM Bob McElrath wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > I worry a lot this group is bifurcating more than it is > collaborating. ->=20 -> We have N code repositories using 4 different version control=20 +> +> We have N code repositories using 4 different version control > softwares, 4 GUI's, 4 programming languages, 2 websites, etc. > @@ -18567,7 +11055,7 @@ compared to commercial products in just five years time. But sooner or later free thinking open source developers will "think with their feet" and re-focus efforts on those things that seem most likely to advance. -=20 + > Getting images out of tex is a hack and always has been. Well, you are the author of one of the best efforts I know @@ -18581,7 +11069,7 @@ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaTeX > We can either push on better tools to make them better > (e.g. MathML), or keep incrementing the number of hacks > we have collecting dust. ->=20 +> Well the MathAction website is not "collecting dust" and it depends on LaTeX and your code. Other similar systems like @@ -18601,42 +11089,11 @@ I liked an idea you mentioned a few months ago about MathML support in jsMath. That way LaTeX or MathML is a choice you can make in javascript at your browser. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU91Z-0003E3-Dg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:06:45 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU91X-0003Cz-Gp - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:06:43 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU91V-0003C0-Mp - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:06:42 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU91V-0003Bi-AR - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:06:41 -0400 -Received: from [66.249.92.173] (helo=uproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FU96t-0001o8-GK - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:12:15 -0400 -Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s2so1083477uge - for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:06:40 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=L3U5OHW2MjBMbDYqP6AXM0Lmt6KimoQN2GhxzRhp1RxPhPS/gw4iPwa27x0ftJ2gzEZBUS1zeW6VkmjiMNk4hc5yLhgKjTTsybUf+ST8+Cxc8bm4TOnn0yeSKevUD8/CMzBwQ4GnddqRzx8fMwJf4tXtGXxE5Ab+vYNtnvUk3qY= -Received: by 10.78.32.16 with SMTP id f16mr40171huf; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:06:39 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.78.29.14 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 23:06:39 +0200 -From: "Pierre Doucy" Pierre Doucy +From: Pierre Doucy To: Jay Belanger Subject: re: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom - <20060413203702.GB3643@mcelrath.org> - <87r741i4i5.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> -Cc: axiom-developer Even if diversity is a good thing, Bob has a point. That's very good news if people want to hack stuff around Axiom, but @@ -18674,58 +11131,15 @@ ugh > IMaxima analogue would fall under the "make better tools better" > umbrella rather than the "hacks collecting dust", particularly since > IMaxima itself has been very well received. -> -> Jay -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> - --- -Cats are intended to teach us that not everything in nature has a function. - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU92z-0003oF-E7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:08:13 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU92x-0003ll-UD - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:08:11 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU92u-0003lC-TA - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:08:11 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU92u-0003l6-QJ - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:08:08 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FU98J-0001wt-36 - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:13:43 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id CAFA669E5D; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:08:05 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 41F8B69ED2; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:08:02 -0400 (EDT) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: User interface, - TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) +\start Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:08:01 -0400 -Thread-Topic: User interface, - TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) -Thread-Index: AcZfO3wNoB0yvr/zT3yW0EIG9mYJJQAAd+BA From: Bill Page -To: "Pierre Doucy" Pierre Doucy -Cc: axiom-developer +To: Pierre Doucy +Subject: RE: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) On Thursday, April 13, 2006 4:47 PM Pierre Doucy wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > I would rather use eclipse which, from a certain point of > view, is "emacs 30 years later" : the "interface for > everything and nothing in particular" approach, plus a @@ -18735,7 +11149,7 @@ On Thursday, April 13, 2006 4:47 PM Pierre Doucy wrote: > scratch. Plus, it may be possible to write an abstract > algebra environment that can be specialized for many > algebra systems. ->=20 +> I would very much like to know more about the possibility of using eclipse for this purpose. But nearly everything @@ -18751,46 +11165,14 @@ suggest a place to get more information about eclipse? Where and how to download it? How to use it for somethig approximating emacs? In general a good source of information? -Thanks. - -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU9D1-0002p2-Pc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:18:35 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU9D0-0002ol-Nk - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:18:34 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU9Cy-0002oM-Sn - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:18:34 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU9Cy-0002oJ-Ne - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:18:32 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FU9IM-0003LZ-Hj - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:24:07 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id C90B06A302; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:18:29 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id E37A66A2BD; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:18:27 -0400 (EDT) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: re: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:18:26 -0400 -Thread-Topic: RE: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom -Thread-Index: AcZfPi8ptz3cGfNoRmecmgzPCGMeswAAM5vw From: Bill Page -To: "Pierre Doucy" Pierre Doucy -Cc: axiom-developer +To: Pierre Doucy +Subject: re: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom On Thursday, April 13, 2006 5:07 PM Pierre Doucy wrote: ->=20 +> > Even if diversity is a good thing, Bob has a point. > That's very good news if people want to hack stuff around > Axiom, but it there is not a clear line, like an official @@ -18798,13 +11180,13 @@ On Thursday, April 13, 2006 5:07 PM Pierre Doucy wrote: > Well, this is the developer email list ... :) -=20 + > I must admit that Axiom's offering is confusing. I don't > think newcomers (and people in general) like to have the > choice. The first time I came across axiom, I wanted a quick > way to give it a try, not having to make endless decisions > without really knowing which is best. ->=20 +> A lot of people are apparently learning about Axiom and giving it a try for the first time at: @@ -18820,49 +11202,11 @@ hyperdoc tools and graphics if possible (not yet possible for Windows users). I don't think new users really need to spend much time worrying about which is best. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU9L8-0000Nn-3C - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:26:58 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU9L6-0000Mn-6g - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:26:56 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU9L4-0000LK-66 - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:26:55 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU9L3-0000LA-Ub - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:26:53 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FU9QS-0004MZ-Go - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:32:28 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3DLQpTH005071 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:26:51 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3DLQp79005068; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:26:51 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:26:50 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page Subject: re: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom - Pierre Doucy, - axiom-developer - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TiqCXmo5T1hvSQQg" - clamav-milter version 0.88.1 on moya.mcelrath.org -Cc: axiom-developer - - ---TiqCXmo5T1hvSQQg Page, Bill [Bill Page] wrote: > On Thursday, April 13, 2006 5:07 PM Pierre Doucy wrote: @@ -18888,66 +11232,11 @@ be about what is presented on the website to outside non-developers) A similar argument can be made for the GUI. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---TiqCXmo5T1hvSQQg - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFEPsIajwioWRGe9K0RAjEHAKDGDpQtoiMLaQnqTwkSJrEVXM8ZVwCgv4TJ -caoWGAiS95dn/vAt3GClZGQ= -=MaDw ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---TiqCXmo5T1hvSQQg-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU9YM-00066q-UA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:40:38 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU9YL-00065f-45 - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:40:37 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU9YK-00065C-Df - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:40:36 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU9YK-000650-6G - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:40:36 -0400 -Received: from [66.249.82.194] (helo=xproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FU9di-0005we-Ph - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:46:11 -0400 -Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t4so1265017wxc - for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:40:35 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; - b=NhqJLku7BKvXP51ZcwGd7ZibA4J2uQvT6SXeKKla73glnhix8g4nDRVriDeYQsfr+09UGYeWGOn56hZBN2beyyjrGRwwP0pre/El1n3dKisUZwW5W2dGshDQAJBrgFGBDYLbaQcLi4DQl2WL0W63QNfnYxRGfWdQNtPlon6ibmc= -Received: by 10.70.8.11 with SMTP id 11mr1197445wxh; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:40:35 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.70.131.5 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:40:35 -0700 (PDT) +\start Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:40:35 -0700 -From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -To: "Pierre Doucy" Pierre Doucy -Subject: Re: User interface, - TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) - boundary="----=_Part_17808_20920092.1144964435065" - <20060413163030.GK22807@mcelrath.org> - - -Cc: axiom-developer - -------=_Part_17808_20920092.1144964435065 +From: Antoine Hersen +To: Pierre Doucy +Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) Hello Pierre @@ -19074,158 +11363,12 @@ s > > > > Some of this issue are problems common to all open source CAS, common > > solution will have more hands working on it. -> > -> > Regards, -> > -> > Antoine Hersen -> > -> > PS : About debugging it is mostly a language tools issue, -> > -> > _______________________________________________ -> > Axiom-developer mailing list -> > list -> > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> > -> > -> > -> -> -> -- -> Cats are intended to teach us that not everything in nature has a -> function. -> - -------=_Part_17808_20920092.1144964435065 - -Hello Pierre

Antoine, I very much agree with = -you... until you start saying that -
Emacs might do the trick ;-)

I am using emacs day = -and night lately , I might be biased ..

-Emacs is indeed very portable, very powerful, but also extremely scary
a= -t first sight, in particular if you're not used to coding. Although
it i= -s not impossible to master it, it requires a lot of implication
from the= - end user, which is not a good thing. -

Not true ...
http://bc.tech.coop/blog/060302.html
 I think if we use CUA( cut and paste like windows)
Hide everything s= -cary, create menu and toolbox. Therefore dumbing down emacs, write clear in= -stall direction maybe it will be manageable for "normal" people ? -


I wou= -ld rather use eclipse which, from a certain point of view, is
"emac= -s 30 years later" : the "interface for everything and nothing in -
particular" approach, plus a certain degree of "cleanliness&q= -uot;.
It may not be the sexiest of environments, but one can easily buil= -d a
very powerful user interface without coding the whole thing from -
scratch.

That is an excellent possibility I overl= -ook.
It is a strong choice, I dont think emacs will dye anytime soon but= - Eclispe has surely a larger user base, strong corporate support and a mode= -rn look and feel. -

Some issue :

Interactive ability ?
we should look to Pyt= -hon and co plug-in to see what they do.

Displaying math ? Is there s= -ome work done there ?
I guess using latex back-end to generate png might= - be an option. -

Managing noweb and latex, how much work will it be ?

Do yo w= -ant to investigate Pierre ?

In general how many people able to work = -on the project have good java skill ?
How many for elisp ?
I am sure = -we will be able to get other CAS interested to such a project. -

I know by experience that Pierre is quite skilled in Java :)
Regards,

Antoine Hersen


-On 4/13/06, Antoine Hersen <= -Antoine Hersen> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> My e= -xperience is making a good UI is a lot of works( aka way more than you
-> imagine), especially if you go out the basic widget. ( I had a 30 line= - long
> rent there ).
>
> Before choosing a solution we s= -hould set goals and there relative
> importance. My try :
> -
> + Attracting new user :
>     - sexy loo= -k
>    - toolbox
>    -= - template
>
>  + Productive Environment :
>&nbs= -p;    - easy to write pages long code :
>  &= -nbsp;       - pretty print -
>          - inden= -tation
>          -= - source code management
>     - Good integration = -with the debugger
>    - A easy work flown( edit,= - compile, test)
>    - An know script langange( s= -cheme, python) -
>
> + Axiom specific
>    - Ease the= - write of pamphlet( writing literate programs is a lot of added
> wor= -k, that does not benefit the writer that much, so we should make it easy> as possible -
>
> The candidates :
> + Web based, Browser based : for = -Mozilla http://www.xulplanet.com/= - maybe
> using MathML.
> Personally I have mixed fealling, = -; it is very hip and I will like for the -
> tools to mature( think about Java UI for exemple Map... )
><= -br>> + TeXmacs, the screenshot does looks good.
>
> + My big= - favorite imaxima :
> -http://members3.jcom.home.ne.jp/imaxima/Site/Welcome.html
>
&g= -t;  Why :
> Emacs work everywhere, with extensive menu an i= -con it is not that scary.
>
> We should be able to manage pamph= -let in a elegant way. And think about -
> everything that is already included, source code management, non v= -arious
> charset ....
>
> And very powerful and well docu= -mented language elisp !!!!
>
> + Start from scratch ( using=20 -http://mcclim.cliki.net/index= - )
>
> Other issue( I am sure it has been discussed before) :>   - Improved documentation browser aware of pamphlet
&g= -t;   - Improved plot 2D, 3D viewer. -
>
> Some of this issue are problems common to all open source = -CAS, common
> solution will have more hands working on it.
>>  Regards,
>
> Antoine Hersen
>
> PS= - : About debugging it is mostly a language tools issue, -
>
> _______________________________________________
> Ax= -iom-developer mailing list
> list
> -http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer
>
>= -;
>


--
Cats are intended to teach us that not everythin= -g in nature has a function.

- -------=_Part_17808_20920092.1144964435065-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU9kh-0007ta-Tq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:53:23 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU9kg-0007tN-EP - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:53:22 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FU9ke-0007tB-2S - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:53:21 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FU9kd-0007t8-S9 - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:53:19 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FU9q2-000810-Qz - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:58:54 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 0F5FC6A469; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:53:19 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 6F1856A424; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:53:17 -0400 (EDT) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: User interface, - TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) + +\start Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:53:16 -0400 -Thread-Topic: User interface, - TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) -Thread-Index: AcZfQ1bM428dIl9RTxeSgAmihFTPOAAAHuOw From: Bill Page -To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -Cc: axiom-developer +To: Antoine Hersen +Subject: RE: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) On Thursday, April 13, 2006 5:41 PM Antoine Hersen wrote: @@ -19234,51 +11377,21 @@ On Thursday, April 13, 2006 5:41 PM Antoine Hersen wrote: > http://bc.tech.coop/blog/060302.html I love it! :) Thanks. - =20 + > I think if we use CUA( cut and paste like windows) Hide > everything scary, create menu and toolbox. Therefore > dumbing down emacs, write clear install direction maybe -> it will be manageable for "normal" people ?=20 +> it will be manageable for "normal" people ? Although the only thing I can think of when I set down at a unix console is 'vi', even I could be persuaded to live with the 'xemacs' gui. ;) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUA0C-0000I8-6f - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:09:24 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUA09-0000Hl-Rp - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:09:21 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUA08-0000HF-Bj - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:09:21 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUA08-0000HC-6d - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:09:20 -0400 -Received: from [66.249.92.170] (helo=uproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FUA5X-0001IV-B8 - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:14:55 -0400 -Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s2so1089834uge - for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:09:19 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=WNtxKMekxyyQv5+/ZNPVgphkRF5CIgWpCnqo2IRdcpFsUFbRoMOaiuVmEvJLyZzlqTrg95jyf2x5xyTK3VJ7F48VA4AKMMeKnkLjmazehhmsWsahGftIjoAS3LEvY2Bl5gueqJFSINk76DjbVQteMboikHgWqN1gY+cFXluA0P8= -Received: by 10.78.42.7 with SMTP id p7mr42350hup; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:09:19 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.78.29.14 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 00:09:19 +0200 -From: "Pierre Doucy" Pierre Doucy +From: Pierre Doucy To: Bill Page -Subject: Re: User interface, - TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) -Cc: axiom-developer +Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) > > I would very much like to know more about the possibility @@ -19302,7 +11415,7 @@ have to admit that they did a very good job. > http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-ecplug/?Open&ca= -=3Ddaw-ec-dr +=daw-ec-dr is a good start for writing eclipse plugins. This one is also great : @@ -19326,106 +11439,26 @@ As is, you really won't do much except edit java code, but you can add tons of plug-ins to do everything from UML modeling to regexp debugging, etc... -Hope that helps - -Regards, - -Pierre - - -> Thanks. -> -> Bill Page. -> - - --- -Cats are intended to teach us that not everything in nature has a function. - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUAGL-0003Gm-Jl - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:26:05 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUAGI-0003DH-Ha - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:26:03 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUAGD-00039I-D2 - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:25:58 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUAGC-00038r-OZ - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:25:56 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FUALc-00043e-3o - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:31:32 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id CD3706A681; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:25:55 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca - (corporateex02.corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 474FB6A67C; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:25:54 -0400 (EDT) - charset="us-ascii" +\start Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:25:53 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Eclipse (was: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom) -Thread-Index: AcZfRwV2OGQV2WVwST+A4kqdDe2IGgAAesHg From: Bill Page -To: "Pierre Doucy" Pierre Doucy -Cc: axiom-developer +To: Pierre Doucy Subject: Eclipse (was: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom) On Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:09 PM Pierre Doucy wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > To download it, click the huge "Eclipse SDK 3.1.2" link here : > http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/ > Un{zip|tar} it, launch the executable, and you're on ! -> ...=20 +> ... > Hope that helps ->=20 - -Perfect. Thanks! :) - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - +> \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUAGN-0003Hn-EV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:26:07 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUAGK-0003Fa-AS - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:26:04 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUAGH-0003Bv-Jw - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:26:02 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUAGF-0003Bk-KJ - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:25:59 -0400 -Received: from [66.249.92.171] (helo=uproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FUALe-000448-Q9 - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:31:35 -0400 -Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s2so1091433uge - for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:25:58 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=P2Y/49BYO/nPHLiqJ43QWzP9ggWq7crvFZ0SwefigCoQdJR4Nr2GwrfSI1DtA+BhgphaEJEiXELKPvy9DCFQsm/K0RoM9Qx2PgEn08fFBMDHbQtlgjlgqza3png19wNYpYdojQzCKwLM5lX67QBDk7AGiqwKrmJWt9RprVn1Y3g= -Received: by 10.78.57.11 with SMTP id f11mr42965hua; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:25:58 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.78.29.14 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 00:25:58 +0200 -From: "Pierre Doucy" Pierre Doucy -To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -Subject: Re: User interface, - TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) - <20060413163030.GK22807@mcelrath.org> - - - -Cc: axiom-developer +From: Pierre Doucy +To: Antoine Hersen +Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) On 4/13/06, Antoine Hersen wrote: > Hello Pierre @@ -19596,78 +11629,13 @@ ous > > > Some of this issue are problems common to all open source CAS, common > > > solution will have more hands working on it. > > > -> > > Regards, -> > > -> > > Antoine Hersen -> > > > > > PS : About debugging it is mostly a language tools issue, -> > > -> > > _______________________________________________ -> > > Axiom-developer mailing list -> > > list -> > > -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> > > -> > > -> > > -> > -> > -> > -- -> > Cats are intended to teach us that not everything in nature has a -> function. -> > -> -> - --- -Cats are intended to teach us that not everything in nature has a function. - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUByn-0005o6-Om - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:16:05 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUBym-0005mX-Go - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:16:04 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUByk-0005kA-JL - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:16:03 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUByk-0005k2-FL - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:16:02 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FUC4A-0003GF-QY - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:21:39 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3E0FwFE006517 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:15:58 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3E0Fwgo006514; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:15:58 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f +\start Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:15:58 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Pierre Doucy -Subject: Re: User interface, - TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) - Antoine Hersen, - axiom-developer - <20060413163030.GK22807@mcelrath.org> - - - - - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="K8nIJk4ghYZn606h" -Cc: axiom-developer - - ---K8nIJk4ghYZn606h +Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) Pierre Doucy [Pierre Doucy] wrote: > > Displaying math ? Is there some work done there ? @@ -19719,62 +11687,12 @@ That, and your HotEqn stuff doesn't work either. I've reinstalled java 1000 times and occasionally I can get something to work. But, I have better things to do with my time. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---K8nIJk4ghYZn606h - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFEPum+jwioWRGe9K0RAvF7AKD2neNsLTfUvcs/lKJs7H+XBmrfRQCfbvVp -sMW67Hpbrjduw4b6QKZSjCA= -=64U+ ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---K8nIJk4ghYZn606h-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUErH-0003eW-BB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 23:20:31 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUErG-0003dK-9M - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 23:20:30 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUErE-0003c3-Nv - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 23:20:29 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUErE-0003bs-KW - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 23:20:28 -0400 -Received: from [66.249.82.202] (helo=xproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FUEwg-0001fY-Sh - for list; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 23:26:07 -0400 -Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t4so1293200wxc - for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:20:27 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; - b=saMK/nOcJ2To3wSW3GwaaMQYJQzRFWkBsJOQrQBFhYFDwsiW0VJ+Dm6UorvZpnDo/VrjnSKmXnXTNyRPHArc3ELOKNVeAfZsIsb8Be/rCrBopv+It4b8UB9e1rkvAfOjKwgbI35ckm3pQNvuQlbGaFFxcvq9juKfs6fXODCQ06s= -Received: by 10.70.14.2 with SMTP id 2mr996739wxn; - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:20:27 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.70.131.5 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:20:27 -0700 (PDT) +\start Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:20:27 -0700 -From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -To: axiom-developer - boundary="----=_Part_20118_24314546.1144984827919" +From: Antoine Hersen +To: list Subject: User Profiles -------=_Part_20118_24314546.1144984827919 - Hello, In the on going discussion about the UI I think we need to know what @@ -19802,61 +11720,11 @@ Antoine Hersen I got A in Marketing 10 :) -------=_Part_20118_24314546.1144984827919 - -Hello,

In the on going discussion about the UI I think we need to kn= -ow what problems we are trying to solve and especially for whom.

It = -will be interesting to create some user profiles, they will have a name and= - cool and positive biography. -
They are not complete or exhaustive just representative at best.
All= - are possible CAS user but maybe not prime target for Axiom, should they be= - or not ? Such profiles will help us discuss those questions.

Why is= - it interesting to have such profile. It help to put names on category of u= -ser find way to attract more people to the project. -

I have started a page http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/UserProfiles that is just a= -n example I am half clueless about it.
So please please go modify it, ch= -ange names, add persona, expend, cut, correct, comments. -

We could also imagine creating a web survey for current and possibl= -e user ?

Regards,
Antoine Hersen

I got A in Marketing 10 := -)
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I forget whether it came in the distribution or I yum(med) it in. I think the later. -Ray - - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFEPyQALJ8uiVOcj4IRAhNXAJ95VfA3tNvCWbMrMzAlNgttwR2QLACfafPj -lnr0aIMdQFSGFyLSjitFhrI= -=XREf ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUJHz-0007t5-0p - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 04:04:23 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUJHw-0007pW-6v - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 04:04:20 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUJHu-0007oN-Gd - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 04:04:19 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUJHu-0007o6-5Z - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 04:04:18 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FUJNO-0001F6-QE - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 04:09:59 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3E84BRi012208 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:04:11 +0200 +\start Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:04:31 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom -Cc: axiom-developer On 04/13/2006 10:01 PM, C Y wrote: > --- Bill Page wrote: @@ -19954,42 +11785,11 @@ And another remark... Many of us are (X)Emacs users, but you cannot expect from an ordinary Axiom User to know all the Emacs stuff. So we should not force users to learn Emacs if they just want to use Axiom. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUJns-0003tc-AP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 04:37:20 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUJnp-0003pi-KO - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 04:37:17 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUJnm-0003lj-NR - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 04:37:16 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUJnm-0003la-GX - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 04:37:14 -0400 -Received: from [64.233.162.201] (helo=nz-out-0102.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FUJtH-00042s-Og - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 04:42:55 -0400 -Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id n29so49005nzf - for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:37:13 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=eVAnZ7dnSh1StaSAVX4+q/NnTO+e09jv//6ZcPTT1MPhdUDbTvDX0sXTgC0fYl4GJOhWJJzjgfTQOcbkg8Bjurenp1oBVyKUm2QACiEDxpjXR/xu9yHBq0pcdwEu8v9X+VaEyEWYeCGr24Z3HhioDqtfvj29ahClyF9NxQ8o8Zs= -Received: by 10.36.37.11 with SMTP id k11mr1923582nzk; - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:37:13 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.36.134.7 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:37:13 +0200 From: David Mentre -To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -Subject: Re: User interface, - TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) - <20060413163030.GK22807@mcelrath.org> - -Cc: axiom-developer +To: Antoine Hersen +Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) Hello Antoine, @@ -20019,39 +11819,11 @@ External code will never match exactly what we need, so we must choose, on each specific case, whether we reuse an existing solution or re-invent one that suites better our needs. -Best wishes, -d. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUKIX-00050T-4c - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:09:01 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUKIU-0004yr-FJ - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:08:58 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUKIR-0004xy-MH - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:08:57 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUKIR-0004xu-GV - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:08:55 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FUKNw-0000ZG-Ox - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:14:37 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3E98nRi013626 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:08:49 +0200 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:09:09 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: list Subject: re: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom -Cc: On Thursday, April 13, 2006 4:37 PM Bob McElrath wrote: > I worry a lot this group is bifurcating more than it is @@ -20075,37 +11847,10 @@ Every branch MUST have a responsible maintainer. If there is none than this branch is dead and should be removed so that no newcomer is intimitated by this amount of branches. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUKKk-0005mJ-Oy - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:11:18 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUKKj-0005lj-SX - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:11:17 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUKKi-0005lT-Rs - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:11:17 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUKKi-0005lD-L6 - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:11:16 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FUKQE-0000qN-0y - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:16:58 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3E9BERi013733 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) - for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:11:14 +0200 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:11:34 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: axiom-dev +To: list Subject: Glossary In order to start bringing AxiomWiki more into the shape of a book, I @@ -20121,39 +11866,11 @@ Could someone tell me why doesn't show in boldface? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUKOc-0008Gn-FC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:15:18 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUKOa-0008FZ-To - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:15:16 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUKOa-0008EP-Fa - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:15:16 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUKOa-0008EC-44 - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:15:16 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FUKU5-0001GO-Kq - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:20:57 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3E9FBRi013839 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:15:11 +0200 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:15:32 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Pierre Doucy Subject: re: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom - -Cc: axiom-developer On 04/13/2006 11:06 PM, Pierre Doucy wrote: > Even if diversity is a good thing, Bob has a point. @@ -20177,39 +11894,11 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxActiveAxiomDevelopers but that is surely not the right place for it. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUKiR-0001kZ-0l - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:35:47 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUKiP-0001kH-OS - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:35:45 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUKiO-0001js-7V - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:35:45 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUKiO-0001jp-4R - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:35:44 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FUKns-0003gY-Px - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:41:25 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3E9ZYRi014290 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:35:34 +0200 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:35:54 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: [Axiom-developer] - backups) -Cc: axiom-developer +Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) On 04/13/2006 11:53 PM, Page, Bill wrote: > On Thursday, April 13, 2006 5:41 PM Antoine Hersen wrote: @@ -20222,38 +11911,11 @@ On 04/13/2006 11:53 PM, Page, Bill wrote: I like that, too! ;-) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUPtf-0003Xr-Gn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:07:43 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUPtd-0003VV-Ik - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:07:41 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUPtc-0003U8-Fx - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:07:40 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUPtc-0003Tz-Ag - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:07:40 -0400 -Received: from [68.142.201.190] (helo=web31710.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FUPtb-0001Sb-UX - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:07:40 -0400 -Received: (qmail 60126 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Apr 2006 15:07:38 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=bYX3BpmT//3LIb66Rostsjls4wCBDegAFlTJmB6WP+6stzoMmeQTMenSYr6UPJLNzTFo9f/x2qhcCXKCO06hCPGsr4ZprOcuehv9BNqAx8AVYzilughDMTulk+uy+D1WPj9oZezlF9fTPCtcfUMvtp8d2dYIUETDFHmBG1ApKV4= - ; -Received: from [68.82.182.25] by web31710.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 08:07:38 PDT Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 08:07:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: re: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: axiom-developer +Subject: re: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom --- Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -20324,48 +11986,13 @@ of a concensus on the "best" way to do it. Also, before we do a GUI we would probably need to bring B-natural or something like it to maturity. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUQ7L-0007H4-Ce - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:21:51 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUQ7I-0007Ea-UZ - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:21:48 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUQ7H-0007C2-2H - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:21:48 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUQ7G-0007Bs-T0 - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:21:46 -0400 -Received: from [68.142.201.195] (helo=web31715.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FUQ7G-0003l4-Tg - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:21:47 -0400 -Received: (qmail 92075 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Apr 2006 15:21:45 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=UcMoGXTU5rxYDmi7vaE2sd4ZVXPTsLqa4SzeZYc3kVEBPaaqtBOqg8Ku+WUjhyGTH7SSvUYZbP+qN0T8GcsG3O3vWHKIZ5ZkjPPGGzDjwNY1RwO8XRqPKDkoi7kGDtKjHqi8F3njC2/r0/yBtFDDzmVsStqMhbgsJh4qdKVAUYc= - ; -Received: from [68.82.182.25] by web31715.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 08:21:45 PDT +\start Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 08:21:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: User interface, - TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) -To: David MENTRE David Mentre, - Antoine Hersen -Cc: axiom-developer +To: David Mentre, Antoine Hersen +Subject: Re: User interface, TeXmacs and Axiom (was: Re: backups) ---- David MENTRE David Mentre wrote: +--- David Mentre wrote: > Hello Antoine, > @@ -20408,45 +12035,11 @@ own quality standards. Admittedly just a thought, at the moment. True. -Cheers, -CY - - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FURx9-0007Mv-Ci - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:19:27 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FURx7-0007LG-8J - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:19:25 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FURx5-0007K7-JF - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:19:24 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FURx5-0007Jx-5f - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:19:23 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FURx6-0001bh-2s - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:19:24 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3EHJIRi029429 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 19:19:18 +0200 +\start Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 19:19:38 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom -Cc: axiom-developer > Axiom, in its current state, is much more for programmers and > developers than for end users. An Emacs inteface which helps those @@ -20501,39 +12094,11 @@ reflections. And a prerequisite of that is that the aldor compiler becomes open source or at least that there is a developer at aldor.org who implements reflections. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUTDy-0003k2-Ea - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:40:54 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUTDx-0003jc-Fq - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:40:53 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUTDw-0003jD-D8 - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:40:53 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUTDw-0003j7-8z - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:40:52 -0400 -Received: from [68.142.201.183] (helo=web31703.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FUTDy-00025b-1Z - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:40:54 -0400 -Received: (qmail 10386 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Apr 2006 18:40:50 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=pjnCOowLnDpxhPddrqV0Fzpb1mE1EwN4rYA4TxalJAsaReE0MOYVACFjAC3iH+YWgyko5fXbyuWYhvKFSDXXHoNdaVPoL4LjvxCCDZKDfDOIeTVTgWPrkiDgCefuHi0b7UjC2zXn3NZkbVIg6YIswydv3os0gk9DBbevFPKYGnA= - ; -Received: from [68.82.182.25] by web31703.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:40:50 PDT Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:40:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: re: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: axiom-developer +Subject: re: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom --- Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -20621,54 +12186,11 @@ others? Right. Still, I suppose that need not stop the collection of ideas. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUTaH-0001rC-Sb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:03:57 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUTaF-0001pB-Ui - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:03:56 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUTaE-0001nv-Pn - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:03:55 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUTaE-0001nb-Le - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:03:54 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FUTaG-0004hl-HK - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:03:56 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3EJ3nQG016382 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 12:03:49 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3EJ3nSP016379; - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 12:03:49 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f +\start Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 12:03:49 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: User interface,TeXmacs and Axiom - Ralf Hemmecke, - axiom-developer - <20060414184050.10384.qmail@web31703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CblX+4bnyfN0pR09" -Cc: axiom-developer - - ---CblX+4bnyfN0pR09 C Y [Cliff Yapp] wrote: > True. OK, if we want to be more specific, a while back I outlined a @@ -20709,60 +12231,10 @@ onMouseOver handler to display something about each subexpression information "integer" or "polynomial" in a sidebar, and any assumptions about it. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---CblX+4bnyfN0pR09 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFEP/IVjwioWRGe9K0RAvWmAJ0f+xTg0smqcraZkXueFIB+9BfrMQCdHO3E -0qnyBhnQaJXH85cx1RC+Udw= -=poig ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---CblX+4bnyfN0pR09-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUTd7-00061x-UD - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:06:54 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUTd6-00061k-VX - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:06:53 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUTd6-00061T-2q - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:06:52 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUTd5-00061J-V3 - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:06:52 -0400 -Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1FUTd8-00053L-26 - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:06:54 -0400 -Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUTcz-0003fU-L0 - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:06:45 +0200 -Received: from 69-160-148-143.vnnyca.adelphia.net ([69.160.148.143]) - by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) - id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 - for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:06:45 +0200 -Received: from simon by 69-160-148-143.vnnyca.adelphia.net with local (Gmexim - 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 - for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:06:45 +0200 -To: list -From: Simon Michael +\start Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 12:07:03 -0700 +From: Simon Michael +To: list Subject: Re: Glossary > Could someone tell me why @@ -20783,32 +12255,7 @@ That looks like a useful page - note also you can generate that sort of thing automatically, showing eg. the page's first paragraph; here's an example: http://zopewiki.org/Glossary . - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUUbR-0004l8-Ux - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:09:13 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUUbQ-0004kU-8h - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:09:12 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUUbN-0004k2-T9 - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:09:11 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUUbN-0004js-K6 - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:09:09 -0400 -Received: from [68.142.201.189] (helo=web31709.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FUUbQ-0003AY-8W - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:09:12 -0400 -Received: (qmail 64777 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Apr 2006 20:09:08 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=vY1VlbCs9yySBJdsi9tgIDKoAE0P0oGOImvJ66GDJRVtxqffgz7bZJpXe/Rq4WcP+xORLj+1kIvwWutwsiwol2X9SzlhDfnOZ0XiY5mJcSOzN6eDLdyaTv3Cjw6ejGWqG9/Uu6weB750cmkHbhbjZeONKntyctZlSVIrTMMJdF8= - ; -Received: from [68.82.182.25] by web31709.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:09:08 PDT Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:09:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp To: list @@ -20816,40 +12263,11 @@ Subject: Summer of Code is on again! http://code.google.com/soc/ -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUUsB-0008VO-Iq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:26:31 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUUs9-0008Ur-R7 - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:26:29 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUUs8-0008UT-9Y - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:26:29 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUUs8-0008UQ-4p - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:26:28 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.211] (helo=mails11.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FUUsB-00051N-2K - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:26:31 -0400 -Received: from asus (207-61-191-200.anikast.net [207.61.191.200]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails11.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k3EKQ0LE005106; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:26:22 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Simon Michael'" Simon Michael -Subject: RE: Re: Glossary +\start Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:25:46 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Simon Michael +Subject: RE: Re: Glossary On April 14, 2006 5:12 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > @@ -20882,39 +12300,11 @@ automatically generated glossary. :) What do you think Ralf? Perhaps both of these should have links from the FrontPage? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUV7M-0007ni-2S - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:42:12 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUV7J-0007mt-UV - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:42:10 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUV7I-0007mT-23 - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:42:09 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUV7H-0007mQ-Ud - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:42:07 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FUV7L-0006jX-0E - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:42:11 -0400 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k3EKfh1d003178; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:42:01 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'C Y'" Cliff Yapp -Subject: RE: Summer of Code is on again! Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:41:20 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Cliff Yapp +Subject: RE: Summer of Code is on again! On April 14, 2006 4:09 PM C Y wrote: > ... @@ -20963,48 +12353,11 @@ and related: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/WishList http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AwardOfBounties -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUW2Z-0003tT-5I - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:41:19 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUW2X-0003rn-1o - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:41:17 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUW2V-0003pm-E4 - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:41:16 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUW2V-0003pc-8b - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:41:15 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FUW2Y-0004Br-LM - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:41:18 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3ELfBhH017377 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:41:11 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3ELfB80017374; - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:41:11 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:41:11 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Simon Michael Subject: re: Glossary - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ieNMXl1Fr3cevapt" -Cc: list - - ---ieNMXl1Fr3cevapt Simon Michael [Simon Michael] wrote: > >Could someone tell me why @@ -21035,65 +12388,12 @@ So, like any input syntax, it is always possible to put math in and process it with some tool, but it requires a perverse and un-latex like syntax. (see also MediaWiki, twiki, etc.) --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---ieNMXl1Fr3cevapt - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFEQBb3jwioWRGe9K0RAuyqAJ9pgZS5s9D/RTKmV/jerlJVtjyDIQCg2Pbm -LLQWaiLoF6IsjuZ0I4u/QPM= -=D75w ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---ieNMXl1Fr3cevapt-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUZc6-0001nK-Tt - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:30:14 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUZc5-0001mm-2T - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:30:13 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUZc4-0001mF-Bn - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:30:12 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUZc4-0001m7-7x - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:30:12 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FUZc9-0001Ps-Sv - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:30:18 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3F1UAMB018887 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) - for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 18:30:10 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3F1UA0B018884 - for list; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 18:30:10 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f +\start Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 18:30:10 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: list - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM" Subject: new FORM paper - ---ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM - People here may be interested in this new paper today: http://www.arxiv.org/abs/cs.SC/0604052 @@ -21104,62 +12404,12 @@ done according to the POSIX standards defined for the UNIX operating system. We present a number of examples that illustrate the increased power due to these new capabilities. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFEQEyhjwioWRGe9K0RAm8PAKCJ81Y+QxDXxzfgJEq/rCdGW2thoACfcKrT -yXx6SeXdISmbV1Pn8wDJm/Q= -=WpgD ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUhmQ-0004oI-4B - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 06:13:26 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUhmO-0004lA-O7 - for list; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 06:13:24 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUhmM-0004is-TT - for list; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 06:13:23 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUhmM-0004ib-PO - for list; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 06:13:22 -0400 -Received: from [193.252.22.26] (helo=smtp5.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FUhmX-00083n-MU - for list; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 06:13:34 -0400 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf0501.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B46201C000AB - for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 12:13:18 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from morgana (ARennes-257-1-76-155.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr - [81.53.155.155]) - by mwinf0501.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4748A1C000A8 - for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 12:13:18 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from david by morgana with local (Exim 4.50) id 1FUhn2-0001bn-W0 - for list; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 12:14:05 +0200 -To: list -From: David Mentre +\start Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 12:14:04 +0200 +From: David Mentre +To: list Subject: ACL2 plugin for Eclipse ---=-=-= - Hello, In light of recent discussions on this list, here is an announcement @@ -21174,63 +12424,11 @@ in Common Lisp. This package could show interested people : I'm personally not interested in Eclipse so I won't look further at this software. -Best wishes, -d. - - ---=-=-= - -Return-path: -Envelope-to: david@localhost -Delivery-date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 10:18:55 +0200 -Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by morgana with esmtp (Exim 4.50) - id 1FUfo9-0001G6-Hp - for david@localhost; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 10:07:05 +0200 -Received: from gmail-pop.l.google.com [64.233.183.109] - by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-6.2.5) - for david@localhost (single-drop); - Sat, 15 Apr 2006 10:07:05 +0200 (CEST) -Delivered-To: David Mentre -Received: by 10.36.134.7 with SMTP id h7cs26771nzd; - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:37:07 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.48.243.1 with SMTP id q1mr943450nfh; - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:37:07 -0700 (PDT) -Received: from tuxinette.linux-france.org (tuxinette.linux-france.org - [80.247.225.35]) - by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d2si612366nfe.2006.04.14.14.37.07; - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:37:07 -0700 (PDT) -Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 80.247.225.35 is neither permitted nor - denied by best guess record for domain of - owner-acl2@lists.cc.utexas.edu) -Received: from iceman.cc.utexas.edu (iceman.cc.utexas.edu [146.6.71.66]) - by tuxinette.linux-france.org (8.13.6/8.13.6/No Relay No Spam) with - ESMTP id k3ELb6TY019665 - for David Mentre; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 23:37:06 +0200 -Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by iceman.cc.utexas.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/cc-lists.mc-1.36) with SMTP id - k3ELZCxH018390; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:35:12 -0500 (CDT) -Received: from ironmaiden.mail.utexas.edu (ironmaiden.mail.utexas.edu - [128.83.32.53]) - by iceman.cc.utexas.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/cc-lists.mc-1.36) with ESMTP - id k3ELYw7Q018351 - for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:34:58 -0500 (CDT) -Received: from sark4.cc.gatech.edu ([130.207.7.19]) - by ironmaiden.mail.utexas.edu with ESMTP; 14 Apr 2006 16:22:37 -0500 - d="scan'208"; a="1842883536:sNHT17500284" -Received: from baobab.cc.gatech.edu (baobab.cc.gatech.edu [130.207.101.13]) - by sark4.cc.gatech.edu (8.13.6/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k3ELMZcH003425; - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:22:36 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from baobab.cc.gatech.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by baobab.cc.gatech.edu (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k3ELMZjT018022; - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:22:35 -0400 -Received: (from peterd@localhost) - by baobab.cc.gatech.edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k3ELMZdN018021; - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:22:35 -0400 +\start Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:22:35 -0400 -From: Peter Dillinger -To: acl2s-announce@cc.gatech.edu, acl2@lists.cc.utexas.edu +From: Peter Dillinger +To: list Subject: ACL2s mailing lists & new version -Xref: morgana list.acl2:307 We have dubbed our Eclipse plug-in and ACL2 modifications "ACL2s" (for "ACL2 Sedan"). More information is available on the web page: @@ -21262,50 +12460,10 @@ For those interested, a new version has been released (plugin 0.4.1, hooks 2.9.4-4), which includes Daron's latest CCG termination analysis, some code cleanup and bug fixes. --- -Peter Dillinger | "Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is -peterd@cc.gatech.edu | very important that you do it." -http://www.peterd.org | - Mohandas "Mahatma" Gandhi - - - ---=-=-= - - - --- -pub 1024D/A3AD7A2A 2004-10-03 David Mentre - 5996 CC46 4612 9CA4 3562 D7AC 6C67 9E96 A3AD 7A2A - ---=-=-=-- - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUmfU-0007aj-L8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 11:26:36 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUmfS-0007YO-Ha - for list; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 11:26:34 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUmfO-0007UO-8M - for list; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 11:26:33 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUmfO-0007UE-0l - for list; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 11:26:30 -0400 -Received: from [68.168.78.199] (helo=mta9.adelphia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FUmfb-0007nq-NW - for list; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 11:26:43 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.0.2] (really [24.53.124.201]) by mta9.adelphia.net - (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP - id <20060415152627.VIFC7190.mta9.adelphia.net@[192.168.0.2]> - for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 11:26:27 -0400 +\start Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 12:41:01 -0400 From: Raymond Rogers -To: Axiom-Developer -OpenPGP: id=539C8F82 +To: list Subject: "make" suggestions for $AXIOM -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- @@ -21331,52 +12489,17 @@ but the documentation might fail(: (or be simplified?) If there is any interest I can try one (or both); I don't know which alternative would be more compatible with the present style. -Ray - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFEQSIcLJ8uiVOcj4IRAm5uAJ0XoIq+6ji+77Yb8g4FpmTHtvgT0gCghoMD -ucVSQnJ85OBCNspE85LUG7M= -=LBG+ ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUqMt-0006KI-62 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 15:23:39 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUqMs-0006Jx-0c - for list; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 15:23:38 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUqMp-0006Jj-SM - for list; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 15:23:37 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUqMp-0006Jg-Mo - for list; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 15:23:35 -0400 -Received: from [68.168.78.44] (helo=mta13.adelphia.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FUqN6-0007Oz-2e - for list; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 15:23:52 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.0.2] (really [24.53.124.201]) by mta13.adelphia.net - (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP - id <20060415192334.WIKK27529.mta13.adelphia.net@[192.168.0.2]>; - Sat, 15 Apr 2006 15:23:34 -0400 +\start Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 15:24:57 -0400 From: Raymond Rogers To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: FC5 success (well sort of) - <200604121532.k3CFWVl17448@localhost.localdomain> -OpenPGP: id=539C8F82 -Cc: list -Hi Tim, - ?? not only doesn't it show up in the build output, but it is not even there in -src/hyper/Makefile -Would you like a copy of the created Makefile in src/hyper/ ? A lot of stuff happens, but not -this. Or you could send me a copy of your Makefile.pamphlet; mine doesn't have "chmod" . +not only doesn't it show up in the build output, but it is not even +there in src/hyper/Makefile Would you like a copy of the created +Makefile in src/hyper/ ? A lot of stuff happens, but not this. Or you +could send me a copy of your Makefile.pamphlet; mine doesn't have +"chmod" . Ray @@ -21397,43 +12520,13 @@ root wrote: > @chmod a+x ${OUTLIB}/htsearch > which should make it executable. It is executable in my builds. > Where does this happen to you? -> -> Tim -> -> -> - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUsUi-00050P-8P - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 17:39:52 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUsUg-0004yn-S4 - for list; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 17:39:50 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FUsUf-0004wh-1u - for list; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 17:39:50 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUsUe-0004we-Sj - for list; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 17:39:48 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FUsUw-0003tB-CF - for list; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 17:40:06 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3FLdgRi017565 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sat, 15 Apr 2006 23:39:43 +0200 Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 21:38:11 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: re: Glossary -Cc: list, 'Simon Michael' Simon Michael +Cc: Simon Michael Hello, @@ -21488,41 +12581,10 @@ am voting for SiteIndex and SiteMap. My SandBoxGlossary, will probably be removed later. I somehow like the autogenerated page more if the content on the corresponding pages is well done. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVAIj-0002xO-9N - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:40:41 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVAIg-0002u3-UG - for list; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:40:38 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVAIe-0002tG-Kl - for list; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:40:38 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVAIe-0002t8-9D; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:40:36 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1FVAJ6-0002l1-WE; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:41:05 -0400 -Received: from mua-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3GGeVoX004139; - Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:40:31 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-1.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A832D7F40A; - Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:40:31 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3GHRAg27836; - Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:27:10 -0400 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:27:10 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Camm Maguire -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Subject: configure.in.patch Camm, @@ -21546,33 +12608,10 @@ system. Perhaps you want to put it into gcl-2.6.8? \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVDBp-0008V7-SD - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:45:45 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVDBn-0008Tp-QC - for list; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:45:43 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVDBk-0008SD-Vu - for list; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:45:42 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVDBk-0008S6-QY - for list; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:45:40 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FVDCF-00046g-4g - for list; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:46:11 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3GJjcRi032489 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) - for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:45:38 +0200 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:52:54 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: axiom-dev +To: list Subject: Re: [#284 axiom crashes for a Graebner basis.] - (new) Hello Axiom developers, @@ -21586,8 +12625,6 @@ submitting on IssueTracker. Ralf On 04/16/2006 04:18 PM, anonymous wrote: -> Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/284AxiomCrashesForAGraebnerBasis/diff -> -- > I try : > > \begin{axiom} @@ -21598,39 +12635,12 @@ On 04/16/2006 04:18 PM, anonymous wrote: > \end{axiom} > > and axiom is gone... -> -- -> forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/284AxiomCrashesForAGraebnerBasis#msg20060416091801-0500@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVEeQ-0007xt-CK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:19:22 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVEeO-0007xC-GP - for list; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:19:20 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVEeM-0007wa-BD - for list; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:19:19 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVEeM-0007wX-7j - for list; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:19:18 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FVEer-0005AO-OB - for list; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:19:49 -0400 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k3GLIrn6029938; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:19:10 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: Re: [#284 axiom crashes for a Graebner - basis.](new) + +\start Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:18:26 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-dev' +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: Re: [#284 axiom crashes for a Graebner basis.] Ralf, @@ -21664,55 +12674,16 @@ Bill Page. > > P2 := HDMP ([a,b,c,d],Integer) ;= a*d+b*c - 17 > > computeBasis [P1,P2] - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVGWv-0001Tm-D1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:19:45 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVGWt-0001QR-71 - for list; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:19:43 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVGWp-0001Os-IK - for list; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:19:42 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVGWp-0001Op-Es; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:19:39 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1FVGXM-0000Tj-53; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:20:12 -0400 -Received: from mua-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3GNJb63001790; - Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:19:37 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-1.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC397F40C; - Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:19:36 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3H06Dq28993; - Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:06:13 -0400 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:06:13 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Camm Maguire - on 14 Apr 2006 12:25:58 -0400) - <54lku8xmnx.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <200604141537.k3EFbNU19218@localhost.localdomain> - <541ww0jf8p.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - J_CHICKENPOX_82, J_CHICKENPOX_93 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: axiom.risc Camm, This patch is NOT in 2.6.8pre. I just hand-patched it in. -Tim - - - --- configure 2006-04-14 18:11:38.692002016 +0200 +++ configure.tpd 2006-04-14 18:17:23.868312995 +0200 @@ -6187,7 +6187,7 @@ @@ -21727,36 +12698,9 @@ Tim This is in 2.6.8pre, which alas has really been delayed too long now. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVNH4-0007aI-WB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 02:31:51 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVNH2-0007YD-KS - for list; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 02:31:48 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVNH1-0007X1-4K - for list; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 02:31:48 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVNH0-0007Wr-S1 - for list; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 02:31:46 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FVNHa-0003QI-2Z - for list; 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Take care, -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: > Camm, > @@ -22065,51 +12898,18 @@ root Tim Daly writes: > > --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVWiA-000315-Jb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:36:26 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVWi9-00030J-4W - for list; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:36:25 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVWi6-0002yv-OZ - for list; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:36:24 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVWi6-0002yl-FM - for list; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:36:22 -0400 -Received: from [193.252.22.27] (helo=smtp4.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FVWin-0006aq-4G - for list; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:37:05 -0400 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf0412.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 25FA91C0018A - for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:36:21 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from ALille-251-1-5-163.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-5-163.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.147.163]) - by mwinf0412.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BCB591C0017F; - Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:36:20 +0200 (CEST) -Subject: Re: --patch-48 -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Tim Daly - <1145286039.4282.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> - <200604171511.k3HFBNa09286@localhost.localdomain> - <1145287681.24226.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> +\start Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:36:46 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: --patch-48 Hi, Le lundi 17 avril 2006 =C3=A0 17:28 +0200, Vanuxem Gr=C3=A9gory a =C3=A9c= rit : > Hi, ->=20 +> > Another bad news. gcl-2.6.8pre, from axiom zips directory, does not > compile on Debian-amd64 (64bits OS and gcc 4.0.3). I will check out the > gcl-2.6.8pre from GCL cvs, investigate and inform Camm of these @@ -22119,132 +12919,32 @@ rit : For information, lastest gcl-2.6.8pre from cvs compiles cleanly on Debian-amd64. The sequence of commands to check it out was: -export CVSROOT=3D:pserver:anonymous@cvs.savannah.gnu.org:/sources/gcl +export CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous@cvs.savannah.gnu.org:/sources/gcl cvs -z9 -q co -d gcl-2.6.8pre -r Version_2_6_8pre gcl -Cheers, - -Greg - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVWmr-0004ck-Od - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:41:17 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVWmo-0004Z4-NX - for list; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:41:15 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVWmm-0004Xe-Oz - for list; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:41:13 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVWmm-0004XR-F9; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:41:12 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1FVWnT-00071Z-6a; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:41:55 -0400 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3HGf3pn020741; 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- Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:39:19 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:39:19 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: list -Cc: Subject: --patch-48 it appears that --patch-48 is flawed. please do not use it. a new patch will be avaiable soon. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVhPj-0004FA-Au - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 00:02:07 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVhPg-0004Cr-Mi - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 00:02:04 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVhPd-0004Ag-5j - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 00:02:04 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVhPd-0004Ac-4R - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 00:02:01 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FVhQQ-00014b-Bd - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 00:02:50 -0400 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3I41xlB018888 - for ; 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Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:43:17 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVsMG-0007YW-3P - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:43:16 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FVsN9-0007tQ-Ui - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:44:12 -0400 -Received: from asus (207-61-191-200.anikast.net [207.61.191.200]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k3IFgnE3011067; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:43:02 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:42:43 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-dev' +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: RE: [AxiomDownload] Ralf, I believe that it is/has been Tim Daly's procedure to first update the tla archive, as and when patches are applied but -to only promote the code to CVS after more thorough testing -=20 +to only promote the code to CVS after more thorough testing - about once every two months or so. The same CVS is available at both Savannah and Sourceforge, with sourceforge as a backup site. So the tla archive is not always in synch with the CVS. The tla archive is more current but less tested. Right, Tim? -Perhaps we should only call the CVS "gold".=20 +Perhaps we should only call the CVS "gold". I am not sure (yet) what we should say about the "silver" svn version since it still seems highly experimental to me - at @@ -22342,28 +13017,28 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomDownload#msg20060418094013-0500@wiki= .ax iom-developer.org -> =20 +> > ++added: > + * There are several ways to access the sources of Axiom: > + -> + * The CVS and tla archives are identical and refer to=20 +> + * The CVS and tla archives are identical and refer to > the Golden release of Axiom, i.e. the latest stable release. > + -> + * The SVN archive refers to the Silver release, i.e.=20 +> + * The SVN archive refers to the Silver release, i.e. > this is the branch which is updated more often, but might be -> + not so stable. Approximately every two months stable=20 +> + not so stable. Approximately every two months stable > code moves from Silver to Gold. > + > * The current Axiom source distribution is available via > CVS at: ->=20 +> > * http://sourceforge.net/projects/axiom/ > ++added: > + > + * A tla archive (GNU arch) can be obtained via:: > + > + tla my-id "Your Name " -> + tla register-archive arch@axiom-developer.org--axiom=20 +> + tla register-archive arch@axiom-developer.org--axiom > http://www.axiom-developer.org/archive/axiom > + tla my-default-archive arch@axiom-developer.org--axiom > + tla get axiom--main--1 GoldenAxiom @@ -22376,43 +13051,12 @@ iom-developer.org > + > + svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/axiom/trunk = SilverAxiom -> =20 - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVshd-0001Ow-UO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:05:21 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVshb-0001NG-IZ - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:05:19 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVshZ-0001Lu-TD - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:05:19 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVshZ-0001Lp-NV - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:05:17 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FVsiU-0004Ka-0X - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:06:14 -0400 -Received: from mua-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3IG52Ek004575; - Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:05:07 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-3.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92CA07F40E; - Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:05:04 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3IFxeR11478; - Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:59:40 -0400 +> + +\start Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:59:40 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) -Cc: list Subject: Re: [AxiomDownload] > I believe that it is/has been Tim Daly's procedure to first @@ -22438,39 +13082,10 @@ track the other three archives with fully tested code. Unfortunately my SVN client cannot communicate with sourceforge yet because it cannot speak ssh. I need to update my client. -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVshx-0001bQ-4Q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:05:41 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVshu-0001Zi-WA - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:05:39 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVshr-0001Xy-LK - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:05:36 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVshr-0001Xp-Ek - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:05:35 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FVsil-0004Mg-C0 - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:06:31 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3IG5URi028327 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:05:30 +0200 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:06:09 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Cc: 'axiom-dev' Subject: Re: [AxiomDownload] Hello Bill, @@ -22522,42 +13137,10 @@ Please let's reduce all this confusion. Suppose you are new to Axiom knowledgable in CVS and you want to contribute code to axiom. You look at FrontPage. AND THEN??? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVswa-00007Q-I7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:20:48 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVswY-00006X-Gj - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:20:46 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVswX-0008WL-2H - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:20:46 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVswW-0008W6-Rt - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:20:44 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FVsxR-0006dR-BS - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:21:41 -0400 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3IGKcg0014255; - Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:20:38 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123027F407; - Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:20:39 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3IGFFI11497; - Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:15:15 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:15:15 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:06:09 +0200) - <44450E71.2060003@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list Subject: Re: [AxiomDownload] > Please let's reduce all this confusion. Suppose you are new to Axiom @@ -22585,36 +13168,10 @@ to merge Camm's debian changes because they don't have any documentation. If I don't understand a change and can't test it I certainly won't merge it. Otherwise the code quality "gets away from me". -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVtoi-00055O-AD - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:16:44 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVtog-00054l-Hz - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:16:42 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVtof-00053K-G6 - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:16:41 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVtof-00053C-A5 - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:16:41 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.219] (helo=mails19.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FVtpa-0004Nb-Et - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:17:38 -0400 -Received: from asus (207-61-191-200.anikast.net [207.61.191.200]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails19.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k3IHGJI1032327; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:16:33 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Tim Daly Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:16:13 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: [AxiomDownload] On April 18, 2006 12:00 PM Tim Daly (root) wrote: @@ -22627,79 +13184,19 @@ On April 18, 2006 12:00 PM Tim Daly (root) wrote: Why do you need ssh? The protocol is https. No? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVtrm-0006TM-Do - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:19:54 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVtrk-0006Rw-6Y - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:19:52 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVtri-0006R8-Jg - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:19:51 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVtri-0006R3-Df - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:19:50 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FVtsd-0004l8-FF - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:20:47 -0400 -Received: from mua-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3IHJaX1012796; - Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:19:41 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-3.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7767F40D; - Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:19:36 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3IHEAo11567; - Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:14:10 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:14:10 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) -Cc: list Subject: Re: [AxiomDownload] possibly not. the error from my SVN client was unclear and i was guessing. i haven't taken the time to debug it yet. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVu0S-0002Gr-1O - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:28:52 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVu0Q-0002G6-UJ - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:28:50 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVu0Q-0002Fc-2a - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:28:50 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVu0P-0002FY-W3 - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:28:50 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.218] (helo=mails18.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FVu1L-00065j-7M - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:29:47 -0400 -Received: from asus (207-61-191-200.anikast.net [207.61.191.200]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails18.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k3IHSLUT018153; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:28:39 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:28:08 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-dev' +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: RE: [AxiomDownload] Ralf, @@ -22780,41 +13277,11 @@ There is a also a link there from FAQ. Perhaps there should be a direct link from the FrontPage? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVudu-0001km-EI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:09:38 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVuds-0001jz-Ax - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:09:36 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVudq-0001jk-FH - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:09:35 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVudq-0001je-7M - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:09:34 -0400 -Received: from [193.252.23.69] (helo=smtp14.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FVuel-0002ir-QU - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:10:31 -0400 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf1407.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2CF8E700009C - for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:09:32 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from ALille-251-1-98-217.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-98-217.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.95.217]) - by mwinf1407.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E1F0E7000093 - for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:09:31 +0200 (CEST) -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: axiom-developer Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:10:02 +0200 -Subject: "Please add new attributes" message when building - aldor interface +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: list +Subject: "Please add new attributes" message when building aldor interface Hi, @@ -22844,49 +13311,16 @@ axiom with the sample provided. So my questions are: is it a known issue ? Is the Aldor interface correct ? Am I alone with this issue ? Is it normal that the build process stops (it's not documented on Mathaction) ? Was src_aldor2.tgz changed (I did not encounter this issue -in the past)?=20 - - -Cheers, - -Greg +in the past)? PS: I don't know if the following helps but I built Aldor interface in two times (the first time I decompressed src_aldor2 in the axiom root directory) and I use make version 3.81rc2 - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVwAs-0000Kj-2d - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:47:46 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVwAq-0000K3-9M - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:47:44 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVwAp-0000JQ-Ii - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:47:43 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1FVwAl-0000IT-Nv; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:47:39 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) - id 1FVwBh-0002vl-U4; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:48:38 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3IJlaRi002386 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:47:37 +0200 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:48:14 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: axiom-dev , axiom-mail@nongnu.org, - axiom-math@nongnu.org -Cc: +To: list Subject: Call for active participation Hello friends of Axiom, @@ -22914,35 +13348,10 @@ Please help. A better AXIOM depends on YOU. Hope to hear from you -Ralf Hemmecke - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FW1YJ-0006HI-NX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:32:19 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FW1YH-0006H0-4z - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:32:17 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FW1YF-0006Go-HT - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:32:16 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FW1YF-0006Gl-Ci - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:32:15 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.217] (helo=mails17.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FW1ZF-0003ku-6i - for list; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:33:17 -0400 -Received: from asus ([207.61.191.200]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails17.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k3J1Vmu1014466; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:32:07 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'C Y'" Cliff Yapp +\start Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:31:23 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-dev' +From: Bill Page +To: Cliff Yapp Subject: RE: Attempt at Emacs mode pamphlet Cliff, @@ -23043,40 +13452,10 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/210PamphletSupportOnMathAction under "Revised Design". -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FW6B0-000671-Cv - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 02:28:34 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FW6Ay-00066O-LU - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 02:28:32 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FW6Aw-000662-9p - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 02:28:31 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FW6Aw-00065z-3U - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 02:28:30 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FW6By-0007jm-Ne - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 02:29:35 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3J6SLRi019946 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:28:26 +0200 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 22:22:40 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Cc: 'axiom-dev' Subject: Re: [AxiomDownload] >> The tla, sourceforge cvs, and savannah cvs are all updated @@ -23167,39 +13546,11 @@ Gives a list of precompiled gold releases of Axiom. Are there more/other ideas or suggestions? -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FW6V7-0003XW-AC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 02:49:21 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FW6V5-0003WZ-IB - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 02:49:19 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FW6V2-0003U7-Ey - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 02:49:19 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FW6V2-0003U0-81 - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 02:49:16 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FW6W4-0000Zg-Uw - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 02:50:21 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3J6nDRi020446 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:49:14 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:49:55 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: re: Attempt at Emacs mode pamphlet -Cc: 'axiom-dev' Hello, @@ -23249,53 +13600,23 @@ automatically into the glossary. Perfectly well hidden. ;-) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FW8u2-0007RY-FE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:23:14 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FW8u0-0007OC-MV - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:23:12 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FW8ty-0007Ns-1B - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:23:11 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FW8tx-0007Np-Sw - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:23:09 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FW8v2-0003w6-6P - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:24:16 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3J9N7Ri027612 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:23:07 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:23:49 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: =?UTF-8?B?VmFudXhlbSBHcsOpZ29yeQ==?= Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: Re: "Please add new attributes" message when - building aldor interface -Cc: axiom-developer - -Hello Gr=C3=A9gory, +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: "Please add new attributes" message when building aldor interface On 04/18/2006 08:10 PM, Vanuxem Gr=C3=A9gory wrote: > Hi, ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > I have successfully built Axiom --patch-49 on my machine. And in the > process of building the Aldor interface (I followed the procedure > described in http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AldorForAxiomissue) i > encountered the following undocumented issue: ->=20 +> > the build process stopped with this message: ->=20 +> > cp /usr/local/axiom/src/aldor/as/attrib.as.head /usr/local/axiom/int/a= ldor/as/attrib.as > Please add new attributes to /attrib.as.head @@ -23304,7 +13625,7 @@ ldor/as/attrib.as > =C2=AB /usr/local/axiom/int/aldor/as/attrib.as =C2=BB > make[1]: quittant le r=C3=A9pertoire =C2=AB /usr/local/axiom/src/aldor = =C2=BB ->=20 +> > It seems that the build process stops to allow user to modify > attrib.as.head that contains attributes defined in the axiom library > (for example shallowMutable). Indeed the libaxiom.mk contains a "@false= @@ -23338,13 +13659,13 @@ says... The build might take up to 2 hours or some machines. -I faintly remember that I did exactly that when I compiled the=20 -interface. But I can tell you more when I rebuild it (which is not=20 +I faintly remember that I did exactly that when I compiled the +interface. But I can tell you more when I rebuild it (which is not likely in the next two weeks), > Is the Aldor interface correct ? -I think so, but one never knows, since the whole stuff is more or less=20 +I think so, but one never knows, since the whole stuff is more or less completely undocumented. :-( > Am I alone with this issue ? Is it normal that the build process stops = @@ -23362,7 +13683,7 @@ libaxiom.mk says # The second ensures that the build will fail if ATTREG.spad is modified.= -ALL_DIRS +=3D $(MID)/as +ALL_DIRS += $(MID)/as $(MID)/as/attrib.as:: $(IN)/as/attrib.as.head $(MID)/as/.dir cp $(IN)/as/attrib.as.head $@ @@ -23375,52 +13696,22 @@ $(MID)/as/attrib.as:: $(INT)/algebra/ATTREG.spad So if ever ATTREG.spad changes the compilation stops. Hmm, that means it = probably always stops if you do 'tla update' and recompile Axiom. -Maybe the dependency should rather be ATTREG.spad.pamphlet. But also=20 +Maybe the dependency should rather be ATTREG.spad.pamphlet. But also that does not sound correct, since I can simply modify the documentation = without generating a different ATTREG.spad. -Probably the easiest thing would be to include the src_aldor2.tgz (in=20 -extracted form) into the aldor distribution. Sure, you can only build=20 -the interface, if you have Java around, but your problem would go away,=20 -since whenever ATTREG.spad.pamphlet is modified one would modify=20 +Probably the easiest thing would be to include the src_aldor2.tgz (in +extracted form) into the aldor distribution. Sure, you can only build +the interface, if you have Java around, but your problem would go away, +since whenever ATTREG.spad.pamphlet is modified one would modify attrib.as.head appropriately BEFORE distributing new Axiom sources. The timestamp of attrib.as should be newer than ATTREG.spad. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FW94x-0002Ed-77 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:34:31 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FW94u-0002Cu-SQ - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:34:28 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FW94s-0002Ar-KM - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:34:27 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FW94s-0002Aa-Hr - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:34:26 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FW95w-00057m-WE - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:35:33 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3J9YIRi028556 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:34:19 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:35:00 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly - <44450E71.2060003@hemmecke.de> - <200604181615.k3IGFFI11497@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list Subject: Re: [AxiomDownload] Hello Tim, @@ -23446,36 +13737,10 @@ how do they find out about all the different files. Would you use a I would be happy if such a procedure gets added to the FAQ page. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWC66-0006EI-9m - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:47:54 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWC65-0006EC-1w - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:47:53 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWC62-0006E0-Kd - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:47:51 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWC62-0006Dw-Ec - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:47:50 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FWC78-0004Lu-L3 - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:48:58 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3JClmRi003798 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) - for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:47:48 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:48:29 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: axiom-dev +To: list Subject: Axiom bibliography Hello, @@ -23490,37 +13755,11 @@ http://www.math.utah.edu:8080/pub/tex/bib/axiom.bib might be interesting for the Axiom-References page. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWCkZ-00025T-94 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:29:43 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWCkX-00024s-KO - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:29:41 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWCkV-00023z-L3 - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:29:41 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWCkV-00023u-Gv - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:29:39 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.209] (helo=mails09.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FWClc-0008L9-Ek - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:30:48 -0400 -Received: from asus (207-61-191-200.anikast.net [207.61.191.200]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails09.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k3JDTGiX010070; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:29:33 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: Axiom bibliography Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:29:07 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-dev' +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: Axiom bibliography Ralf, @@ -23546,40 +13785,11 @@ Note that it is also listed on Axiom Wiki here: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FoundObjects -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWDVi-0007Tt-OC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:18:26 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWDVh-0007To-81 - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:18:25 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWDVf-0007Tb-NK - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:18:24 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWDVf-0007TV-IZ - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:18:23 -0400 -Received: from [68.142.201.194] (helo=web31714.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWDWm-00045y-VN - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:19:33 -0400 -Received: (qmail 76293 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Apr 2006 14:16:51 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=VoGc9H5qPeVyZftxI6JVDf2Ndppz5ZugHEy0l5NDh7mWyJfVo5l5cpTRgzCBaTS61+RAbdzn2GW2rgN80XEO898PB9U01O0/Gk2BzrKFHgjIJ7ydhQlmF2tFy8Y0EjD62Hy4Kv42hYgLvRzuA5CKAx2ieBrwFfUvACwmk/9zDDg= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31714.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 07:16:51 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 07:16:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Axiom bibliography To: list +Subject: Re: Axiom bibliography --- Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -23686,46 +13896,12 @@ Comments? This is an important issue and will become much more important as time goes on, so now is the time to figure out what is "right" and implement it. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWEi4-0005ae-6G - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:35:16 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWEi2-0005Zv-H3 - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:35:14 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWEi1-0005Z9-4B - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:35:14 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWEi0-0005Z2-Vh - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:35:13 -0400 -Received: from [193.252.22.29] (helo=smtp2.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWEj8-00030m-OO - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:36:23 -0400 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf0201.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0AB851C00478 - for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:35:11 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from ALille-251-1-75-233.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-75-233.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.188.233]) - by mwinf0201.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9E8601C00441; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:35:10 +0200 (CEST) -Subject: Re: "Please add new attributes" message when - building aldor interface -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Ralf Hemmecke - <444601A5.10507@hemmecke.de> +\start Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:35:44 +0200 -Cc: axiom-developer +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: [Axiom-developer] "Please add new attributes" message when building aldor interface + Hi, @@ -23735,39 +13911,39 @@ Le mercredi 19 avril 2006 =C3=A0 11:23 +0200, Ralf Hemmecke a =C3=A9crit = [...] > > Am I alone with this issue ? Is it normal that the build process stop= -s=20 +s > > (it's not documented on Mathaction) ? Was src_aldor2.tgz changed > > (I did not encounter this issue in the past)? ->=20 +> > Yes, the compilation stopped but not for the issue you described. > What you encountered should rather be seen as a feature than a bug. > So '@false' should remain there. I agree ->=20 +> > libaxiom.mk says > ----BEGIN > # attrib.as - needs some special rules > # The second ensures that the build will fail if ATTREG.spad is modifie= d. ->=20 -> ALL_DIRS +=3D $(MID)/as ->=20 +> +> ALL_DIRS += $(MID)/as +> > $(MID)/as/attrib.as:: $(IN)/as/attrib.as.head $(MID)/as/.dir > cp $(IN)/as/attrib.as.head $@ ->=20 +> > $(MID)/as/attrib.as:: $(INT)/algebra/ATTREG.spad > @echo "Please add new attributes to $(Ax0Dir)/attrib.as.head" > @false > ----END ->=20 +> > So if ever ATTREG.spad changes the compilation stops. Hmm, that means i= -t=20 +t > probably always stops if you do 'tla update' and recompile Axiom. -> Maybe the dependency should rather be ATTREG.spad.pamphlet. But also=20 +> Maybe the dependency should rather be ATTREG.spad.pamphlet. But also > that does not sound correct, since I can simply modify the documentatio= -n=20 +n > without generating a different ATTREG.spad. Yes you're right, thanks, I read too quickly the libaxiom.mk (I built @@ -23781,54 +13957,19 @@ Cheers, Greg -> Probably the easiest thing would be to include the src_aldor2.tgz (in=20 -> extracted form) into the aldor distribution. Sure, you can only build=20 +> Probably the easiest thing would be to include the src_aldor2.tgz (in +> extracted form) into the aldor distribution. Sure, you can only build > the interface, if you have Java around, but your problem would go away,= -=20 -> since whenever ATTREG.spad.pamphlet is modified one would modify=20 + +> since whenever ATTREG.spad.pamphlet is modified one would modify > attrib.as.head appropriately BEFORE distributing new Axiom sources. > The timestamp of attrib.as should be newer than ATTREG.spad. ->=20 -> Ralf ->=20 ->=20 - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWF0m-0004yZ-CR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:54:36 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWF0k-0004wj-Eg - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:54:34 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWF0j-0004w4-Ky - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:54:34 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWF0j-0004vk-Ee - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:54:33 -0400 -Received: from [64.233.162.200] (helo=nz-out-0102.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWF1r-0004xf-G1 - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:55:43 -0400 -Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id n29so878138nzf - for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:54:26 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=heTKXVV04FOIoEXLYco8jyNy18Q9ITFjky+EEZetfK+ksVHxicLOSqqhfBzZzER/DoDkZbc6QJmBnOcwol4+8pETRfr32vZiyMDFMm8XtaZY6tvLHy50J6BbOwcMVLBhkn+RPCKC2GpZnNOlwE1TZ0Mev/05Ns3O8kml/Pn/Y2Y= -Received: by 10.36.129.20 with SMTP id b20mr432686nzd; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:54:26 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.36.134.7 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:54:26 -0700 (PDT) + +\start Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:54:26 +0200 From: David Mentre -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: [AxiomDownload] - <44450E71.2060003@hemmecke.de> - <200604181615.k3IGFFI11497@localhost.localdomain> - <44460444.60106@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list Hello Ralf, @@ -23852,42 +13993,11 @@ Procedure that works for any Source Code Management system: 5. send wonderful-feature-dxm.patch to Tim and axiom-developer@. -Best wishes, -d. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWF31-0005Sj-Qv - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:56:56 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWF30-0005SR-PR - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:56:54 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWF2z-0005S7-5o - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:56:54 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWF2z-0005S4-23 - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:56:53 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FWF47-0005AU-3m - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:58:03 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3JFuoRi010782 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:56:50 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:57:32 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: =?UTF-8?B?VmFudXhlbSBHcsOpZ29yeQ==?= Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: Re: "Please add new attributes" message - when building aldor interface - <444601A5.10507@hemmecke.de> - <1145460944.3716.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: axiom-developer +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: "Please add new attributes" message when building aldor interface > So it seems that my version of ATTREG.spad > was more recent than attrib.as.head. Humm it's strange since I did not @@ -23914,42 +14024,11 @@ So what do you think about including (an extracted) src_aldor2.tgz in use at one's own risk. But it would be a bit simpler than the current steps at http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AldorForAxiom -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWFDK-0002T9-VP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:07:35 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWFDJ-0002SS-IY - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:07:33 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWFDG-0002P3-8G - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:07:33 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWFDF-0002Ox-MA - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:07:29 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FWFEN-0006Gz-Py - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:08:40 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3JG7MRi011163 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:07:23 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:08:04 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: David MENTRE David Mentre +To: David Mentre Subject: re: [AxiomDownload] - <44450E71.2060003@hemmecke.de> - <200604181615.k3IGFFI11497@localhost.localdomain> - <44460444.60106@hemmecke.de> - <3d13dcfc0604190854t4dc40ceclf0313b3e0abe4d2a@mail.gmail.com> -Cc: list Thanks David, @@ -23986,45 +14065,12 @@ On 04/19/2006 05:54 PM, David MENTRE wrote: > Best wishes, > d. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWFRR-0000gf-5n - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:22:09 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWFRP-0000g7-GE - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:22:07 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWFRN-0000fu-Up - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:22:07 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWFRN-0000fr-Rn - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:22:05 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWFSW-0007l7-FA - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:23:16 -0400 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3JGLpOc032333; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:21:57 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DA77F404; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:21:53 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3JGGTQ12303; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:16:29 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:16:29 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - 19 Apr 2006 18:08:04 +0200) Subject: re: [AxiomDownload] - <44450E71.2060003@hemmecke.de> - <200604181615.k3IGFFI11497@localhost.localdomain> - <44460444.60106@hemmecke.de> - <3d13dcfc0604190854t4dc40ceclf0313b3e0abe4d2a@mail.gmail.com> - <44466064.30508@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list, David Mentre +Cc: David Mentre > Thanks David, > @@ -24072,44 +14118,11 @@ Since I hand review and apply every change it might happen that your patch gets rewritten to work in a different fashion. The -Naur file format gives me enough information to find every individual change. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWFTd-0001s8-Jb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:24:25 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWFTb-0001qj-VV - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:24:23 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWFTZ-0001pX-Jq - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:24:22 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWFTZ-0001pI-CZ - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:24:21 -0400 -Received: from [64.233.162.206] (helo=nz-out-0102.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWFUh-0007wT-R2 - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:25:32 -0400 -Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id n29so885285nzf - for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:24:20 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=ZOhuaPxfWksSNR4DjKtDeCaOq5fhxfSk71CFuoZyXmBK9Tod7d6MkdcoROd+FUHmf3BEmDP+XN4E+xNyGq5T466a/roLMeuuSZ86GaDFDDFQdkg1JmKEjTyC6bHY2hY/Kc3CfdDN3bKKqZHzIrNj4ZG4mlU4tcW1CKZcBWLeIL4= -Received: by 10.36.39.14 with SMTP id m14mr4387561nzm; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:24:20 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.36.134.7 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:24:20 +0200 From: David Mentre -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: [AxiomDownload] - <44450E71.2060003@hemmecke.de> - <200604181615.k3IGFFI11497@localhost.localdomain> - <44460444.60106@hemmecke.de> - <3d13dcfc0604190854t4dc40ceclf0313b3e0abe4d2a@mail.gmail.com> - <44466064.30508@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list Ralf, @@ -24145,47 +14158,11 @@ diff -Naur orig/b/f modified/b/f I'm for peace in SCM war. ;-) -Best wishes, -d. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWFTj-0001w0-AJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:24:31 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWFTh-0001v9-Ip - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:24:29 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWFTg-0001uS-PR - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:24:29 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWFTg-0001uI-Ea - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:24:28 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWFUp-0007xI-23 - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:25:39 -0400 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3JGOD22001084; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:24:18 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F0E7F404; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:24:15 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3JGIpo12307; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:18:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:18:51 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:57:32 +0200) -Subject: Re: "Please add new attributes" message - when building aldor interface - <444601A5.10507@hemmecke.de> - <1145460944.3716.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> - <44465DEC.1060303@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list +Subject: Re: "Please add new attributes" message when building aldor interface > I hope this all goes away soon. I have already started to move the Java > code to Aldor. Unfortunately, I have not made progress since several @@ -24213,47 +14190,11 @@ make it work. send patch files. make it work. send patch files. -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWGdx-0005BR-Gq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:39:09 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWGdw-0005AJ-6Q - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:39:08 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWGdu-00059O-QQ - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:39:07 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWGdu-00059D-Hl - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:39:06 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FWGex-0006X3-Am - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:40:12 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3JHco42032438 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:38:50 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3JHcol0032435; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:38:50 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:38:50 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Axiom bibliography - <20060419141651.76291.qmail@web31714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2" -Cc: list - - ---7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 C Y [Cliff Yapp] wrote: > The problem of making a bibtex file into a pamphlet file is going to be @@ -24264,10 +14205,10 @@ C Y [Cliff Yapp] wrote: > bibliographies. JabRef would be far and away my preference - it is the > leading open source solution that I am aware of, and I'm hoping its > Groups feature could be used somehow to manage things: ->=20 +> > http://jabref.sourceforge.net/ > http://jabref.sourceforge.net/images/Jabref-ScreenShot-MainWindow.png ->=20 +> > but if we do use such a tool we have the problem of its being designed > to work with bibtex, not bibtex in pamphlet :-/. @@ -24291,7 +14232,7 @@ the Bibliography Archetype -- same as Axiom Portal: ). Maybe I have missed it but I do not see a way to search the bibliography. Furthermore when viewing a bibliography entry it does not give you a concise identifier for each paper that you can \cite{}, -unless you go export to bibtex, then examine the output. =20 +unless you go export to bibtex, then examine the output. I would like to add search and \cite{} capability from wiki pages. This would allow discussion of papers, and even back-references on the wiki! @@ -24313,12 +14254,12 @@ identifier for \cite{} without having to open a new browser window. > constitute a volume all by itself. We'll need intelligent ways to > merge, sort, and manage this process. I guess I would propose this as > a rough draft: ->=20 +> > 1. Create and maintain a central bibliography, starting with the > Nelson Beebe axiom.bib file as a beginning. Pamphlet authors would be > encouraged to use the citations already present if they want to cite an > existing paper. ->=20 +> > 2. Each new pamphlet will undoubtedly cite papers and other works not > included in the main axiom.bib file. They will most likely either > append these new entries on to the end of axiom.bib or maintain a @@ -24378,60 +14319,11 @@ or look into it, please do! For now the software I'm building on is the CMF Bibliography Archetype: http://plone.org/events/sprints/paderborn/BibliographyTeam --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell=20 - ---7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFERnWqjwioWRGe9K0RAmt2AKCZ8DCZJvA9DC8fZRjKRPfFxad79gCglKrh -9tJpdBf9idU7x+nmPV5vXNY= -=maQY ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWHyf-00045u-Uk - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:04:38 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWHyd-000455-UM - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:04:36 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWHyd-00044e-0x - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:04:35 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWHyc-00044Y-Ru - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:04:34 -0400 -Received: from [68.142.201.183] (helo=web31703.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWHzm-0005nr-H6 - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:05:47 -0400 -Received: (qmail 67202 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Apr 2006 19:04:33 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=X4YKVbteDCXUg07Q/tBI+Xr/IHWKlsxDe9AwnawFHFcO+FuEVXIyOISL6hXydqhrnVIqEOnAZJh/ZrgZ3Hnd9nv1ziKw2rxJcBsFVsdImxku1RIJ/E+l+Evp/vBoUqqImAk7ZE1gq0za71LE6ykhdWOeVgPhTZQtKeQWeFepvwE= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31703.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:04:33 PDT +\start Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:04:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Axiom bibliography To: Bob McElrath -Cc: list - ---- Bob McElrath wrote: +Subject: Re: Axiom bibliography > C Y [Cliff Yapp] wrote: > > JabRef would be far and away my @@ -24605,48 +14497,11 @@ own." We should also decide on one convention for identifiers (and quality standards) on papers where we need to create our own bibtex entry - the pamphlet files themselves being an obvious example. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWIDF-0001Ic-Ge - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:19:41 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWIDD-0001Hu-LM - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:19:39 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWIDA-0001Fi-6J - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:19:39 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWIDA-0001Fc-2n - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:19:36 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWIEK-0006lz-FB - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:20:48 -0400 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3JJJSbg009092; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:19:32 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FDF87F407; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:19:28 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3JJE1N12361; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:14:01 -0400 +\start Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:14:01 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Cliff Yapp - from C Y on Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:04:33 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Axiom bibliography -Cc: list > > 5. IIRC there is some way to process bib files as TeX documents? > > > If so we can make the bibliography file available on the wiki like @@ -24665,47 +14520,15 @@ the annotations. Annotations are a great way to collect wisdom about various papers from previous readers so you can decide if the reference is related to your effort. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWIMd-0004Au-Vt - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:29:24 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWIMc-0004Ao-Bx - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:29:22 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWIMa-0004AZ-P0 - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:29:22 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWIMa-0004AW-JH - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:29:20 -0400 -Received: from [193.252.22.26] (helo=smtp5.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWINk-0007mM-W8 - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:30:33 -0400 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf0509.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 950AF1C0029F - for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:29:19 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from morgana (ARennes-257-1-33-182.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr - [81.53.16.182]) - by mwinf0509.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 681981C00284; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:29:19 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from david by morgana with local (Exim 4.50) - id 1FWINJ-0001b3-T1; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:30:05 +0200 +Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:30:05 +0200 +From: David Mentre To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Axiom bibliography - <200604191914.k3JJE1N12361@localhost.localdomain> -From: David Mentre -Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:30:05 +0200 - (Tim Daly's - message of "Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:14:01 -0400") -Cc: list Hello Tim, -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: > I'm a big fan of annotated bibliographies. We could create a bib volume > that would generate the bibtex file as well as a document that contains @@ -24723,89 +14546,25 @@ Wouldn't it be simpler to write a latex/pamphlet file with needed As an added bonus, such a pamphlet file could be used on the Axiom web site through Bill's machinery. -Best wishes, -d. --- -David MENTRE David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWIT9-0005yz-VH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:36:07 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWIT8-0005y2-TR - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:36:06 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWIT7-0005vR-86 - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:36:06 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWIT7-0005vI-4M - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:36:05 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWIUH-0008Jf-Iy - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:37:17 -0400 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3JJZuSV031692; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:35:56 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F637F404; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:35:56 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3JJUTR12377; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:30:29 -0400 +\start Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:30:29 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: David Mentre - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:30:05 +0200) Subject: Re: Axiom bibliography - <200604191914.k3JJE1N12361@localhost.localdomain> - <87irp5e536.fsf@linux-france.org> -Cc: list excellent point. --t - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWIZu-0001ja-L5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:43:06 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWIZs-0001jV-LY - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:43:04 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWIZq-0001jJ-8c - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:43:03 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWIZq-0001jG-29 - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:43:02 -0400 -Received: from [68.142.201.187] (helo=web31707.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWIb0-0000Pu-De - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:44:14 -0400 -Received: (qmail 4859 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Apr 2006 19:43:00 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=Scg0J2w6sZlG0MWuTi5e+SLg4dH6GQ7IsAHNeH0tU5NAmMUjaByc8UrN0xbEs06L/S4H/91yi65judExk0xWEiODg7soiUq185RqlyuzYZgCDyz/GvZXG/Ojm/9lOgcb+ZEYZvgQEe82Wq+L01tI8JJt05DThSpWxXHvHOd1bD8= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31707.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:43:00 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:43:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Axiom bibliography To: David Mentre, Tim Daly -Cc: list - - +Subject: Re: Axiom bibliography --- David Mentre wrote: > Hello Tim, > -> root Tim Daly writes: +> Tim Daly writes: > > > I'm a big fan of annotated bibliographies. We could create a bib > volume @@ -24833,45 +14592,11 @@ With hyperref, the pdf should even be clickable. Nice, nice solution. I was too focused on trying to shoehorn the annotations into the bibtex file itself. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWJQV-0002yV-63 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:37:27 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWJQS-0002wr-Nr - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:37:24 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWJQQ-0002wP-Qi - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:37:24 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWJQQ-0002wM-O3 - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:37:22 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FWJRb-0005PX-K6 - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:38:35 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3JKbIRi019421 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:37:18 +0200 +\start Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:35:20 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Axiom bibliography - <200604191914.k3JJE1N12361@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list Did you know that BibTeX does not impose a restriction on the fields names that are used inside a bibentry? Everything is decided by the @@ -24904,42 +14629,14 @@ On 04/19/2006 09:14 PM, root wrote: > various papers from previous readers so you can decide if the reference > is related to your effort. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWJam-0007nZ-6D - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:48:04 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWJak-0007nA-Jb - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:48:02 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWJah-0007mx-Tv - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:48:02 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWJah-0007mu-Mj - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:47:59 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWJbr-0006Uw-IC - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:49:12 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id A66CB6E6E2; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:47:54 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 8DEAD6E6D6; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:47:51 -0400 (EDT) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Axiom bibliography Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:47:50 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Axiom bibliography -Thread-Index: AcZj2DyUj9HXFuyGRvOEg+SwthGxzQAFZkog From: Bill Page -To: "Bob McElrath" -Cc: list +To: Bob McElrath +Subject: RE: Axiom bibliography On Wednesday, April 19, 2006 1:39 PM Bob McElrath wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > Right now I have an experimental Plone site (because of > the existence of the Bibliography Archetype -- same as > Axiom Portal: @@ -24962,25 +14659,25 @@ It is easy to generate a URL that does a search of all bibliograph entries. For example the following search finds all entries containing the word "polynomial": -http://portal.axiom-developer.org/search?SearchableText=3Dpolynomial&port= +http://portal.axiom-developer.org/search?SearchableText=polynomial&port= a -l_type%3Alist=3DArticleReference&portal_type%3Alist=3DBookReference&porta= +l_type%3Alist=ArticleReference&portal_type%3Alist=BookReference&porta= l_t -ype%3Alist=3DBookletReference&portal_type%3Alist=3DInbookReference&portal= +ype%3Alist=BookletReference&portal_type%3Alist=InbookReference&portal= _ty -pe%3Alist=3DIncollectionReference&portal_type%3Alist=3DInproceedingsRefer= +pe%3Alist=IncollectionReference&portal_type%3Alist=InproceedingsRefer= enc -e&portal_type%3Alist=3DManualReference&portal_type%3Alist=3DMastersthesis= +e&portal_type%3Alist=ManualReference&portal_type%3Alist=Mastersthesis= Ref -erence&portal_type%3Alist=3DMiscReference&portal_type%3Alist=3DPhdthesisR= +erence&portal_type%3Alist=MiscReference&portal_type%3Alist=PhdthesisR= efe -rence&portal_type%3Alist=3DPreprintReference&portal_type%3Alist=3DProceed= +rence&portal_type%3Alist=PreprintReference&portal_type%3Alist=Proceed= ing -sReference&portal_type%3Alist=3DTechreportReference&portal_type%3Alist=3D= +sReference&portal_type%3Alist=TechreportReference&portal_type%3Alist== Unp -ublishedReference&portal_type%3Alist=3DWebpublishedReference&Creator=3D&s= +ublishedReference&portal_type%3Alist=WebpublishedReference&Creator=&s= ubm -it=3DSearch +it=Search Note: The above is all one long URL. Most email programs will split this into multiple lines that must be re-joined before @@ -25003,8 +14700,8 @@ m will provide the full bibtex entry. ->=20 -> I would like to add search and \cite{} capability from wiki=20 +> +> I would like to add search and \cite{} capability from wiki > pages. This would allow discussion of papers, and even > back-references on the wiki! It would be super-sweet if the > search could be done in a sidebar, next to the edit window, @@ -25020,7 +14717,7 @@ Supposed in an Axiom wiki page I write: Blah, blah. Polynomial\cite{axiombib/Duval1992EPS} are treated ... -In this case what will we see rendered on the page?=20 +In this case what will we see rendered on the page? 1 Polynomial are treated ... @@ -25035,41 +14732,11 @@ which in turn is hyperlinked to full reference at http://portal.axiom-developer.org/refs/axiombib/Duval1992EPS ----------- - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWJc1-0007uj-El - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:49:21 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWJc0-0007ue-CZ - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:49:20 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWJbz-0007uG-Qz - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:49:20 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWJbz-0007u5-Iz - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:49:19 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FWJdA-0006d9-HQ - for list; 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- Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:52:27 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:52:27 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Axiom bibliography - Cliff Yapp, list - <4446A26E.1070005@hemmecke.de> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="U+NfgObvpQT1Q9Yq" -Cc: list ---U+NfgObvpQT1Q9Yq - Ralf Hemmecke [Ralf Hemmecke] wrote: > Well yes, if hyperref is included then also that should be clickable, > but it would probably be more like an annotated bibliography than the @@ -25222,68 +14824,11 @@ list of other wiki pages/pamphlets. But formatting of the footnote is a detail that can be customized, and argued in the future when it works. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---U+NfgObvpQT1Q9Yq - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFERrEbjwioWRGe9K0RAiIpAJ9Zc3FS+Gm65X3cz6c9M0T176fGWgCcDU7a -2dpjMvBx75a8R9Hc+ucbVpk= -=kKxE ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---U+NfgObvpQT1Q9Yq-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWKhP-0004XH-2z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:58:59 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWKhN-0004VG-OP - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:58:57 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWKhK-0004R7-VP - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:58:57 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWKhK-0004Qp-QT - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:58:54 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FWKiW-0005zT-CN - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:00:08 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3JLwnJb002061 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:58:49 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3JLwndH002058; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:58:49 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f +\start Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:58:49 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Axiom bibliography - Tim Daly, list - <200604191914.k3JJE1N12361@localhost.localdomain> - <44469F08.4070005@hemmecke.de> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vIXBmblrD40XNCy4" -Cc: list - - ---vIXBmblrD40XNCy4 Ralf Hemmecke [Ralf Hemmecke] wrote: > Did you know that BibTeX does not impose a restriction on the fields @@ -25317,67 +14862,18 @@ people have chosen different and incompatible ways to do it. But on the other hand their databases are generally open, so one can interrogate a server when you get an identifier that isn't in your .bib. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---vIXBmblrD40XNCy4 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFERrKZjwioWRGe9K0RAhSZAKCY7Qgwtos9fM2wgVZuDTd5XmwWpQCffEgT -tb0m2JmBtj+KAcW8hGLy+OQ= -=+M7q ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---vIXBmblrD40XNCy4-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWKiR-0006dx-Eq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:00:03 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWKiP-0006ZG-57 - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:00:01 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWKiN-0006VQ-7P - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:00:00 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWKiN-0006Ue-0C - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:59:59 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWKjY-0006Ra-Ro - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:01:12 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 3D01F6EAA9; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:59:58 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 96CF86EA99; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:59:56 -0400 (EDT) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Axiom bibliography +\start Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:59:56 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Axiom bibliography -Thread-Index: AcZj2DyUj9HXFuyGRvOEg+SwthGxzQAFZkogAAN6o7A= From: Bill Page -To: "Bob McElrath" -Cc: list +To: Bob McElrath +Subject: RE: Axiom bibliography On Wednesday, April 19, 2006 4:48 PM I wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > It is easy to generate a URL that does a search of all > bibliograph entries. For example the following search finds > all entries containing the word "polynomial": -> ...=20 +> ... It might be easier to use the 'path' option on the search instead of listing all of the bibiography types since only @@ -25385,57 +14881,21 @@ bibliography entries will be present in the 'axiombib' folder. E.g. This query returns a list of Axiom references that have 'Buchberger' in the title: -http://portal.axiom-developer.org/search?Title=3DBuchberger&path=3D/Plone= +http://portal.axiom-developer.org/search?Title=Buchberger&path=/Plone= /re -fs/axiombib&submit=3DSearch +fs/axiombib&submit=Search Similarly you can search only for Reduce references: -http://portal.axiom-developer.org/search?Title=3DBuchberger&path=3D/Plone= +http://portal.axiom-developer.org/search?Title=Buchberger&path=/Plone= /re -fs/redbib&submit=3DSearch - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - +fs/redbib&submit=Search \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWKw6-0004Xz-B5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:14:10 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWKw4-0004XK-Hs - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:14:08 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWKw3-0004Ws-OU - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:14:08 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWKw3-0004Wl-Iy - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:14:07 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FWKxF-0000FC-FH - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:15:21 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3JME6qW002228 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:14:06 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3JME5Hd002225; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:14:05 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:14:05 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Axiom bibliography - list, Cliff Yapp - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tV/+6PImfyFtriLg" -Cc: list - - ---tV/+6PImfyFtriLg Page, Bill [Bill Page] wrote: > > I would like to add search and \cite{} capability from wiki @@ -25506,60 +14966,11 @@ place. If you want to process a pamphlet in latex it's easy enough to extract the bibtex entries used and export them. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---tV/+6PImfyFtriLg - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFERrYtjwioWRGe9K0RAhkEAJ9n5fFqx5ztwu/qLU7rzgDTVFaEPACfXCuE -1s14sxpLcwayezur9cTDLuk= -=M/rN ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---tV/+6PImfyFtriLg-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWLRx-0000RN-6s - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:47:05 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWLRv-0000Qu-Tw - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:47:03 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWLRu-0000Q5-6S - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:47:03 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWLRt-0000Py-T0 - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:47:01 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWLT6-0002cA-2e - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:48:16 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 0746C73C52; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:47:01 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 83E4973C50; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:46:58 -0400 (EDT) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Axiom bibliography +\start Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:46:57 -0400 -Thread-Topic: Axiom bibliography -Thread-Index: AcZj/pre3edegoiIQXqnqy2fYRf0TAAAlqPg From: Bill Page -To: "Bob McElrath" -Cc: list +To: Bob McElrath +Subject: RE: Axiom bibliography > ... But furthermore the page displayed at: > http://portal.axiom-developer.org/refs/axiombib/Duval1992EPS @@ -25567,7 +14978,7 @@ Cc: list > database which would let me download the paper. It has only a cryptic > journal citation. I think one would have to be an expert in the field > to decode j-IFIP-TRANS-A <#j-IFIP-TRANS-A> A-2:133\u2013141, 143. ->=20 +> As you know the contents of a bibtex entry is up to whoever wrote the entry. In this case Nelson Beebe has a particular "standard @@ -25595,39 +15006,11 @@ http://portal.axiom-developer.org/refs/axiombib/webpublishedreference.20 Google? ;) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWPSC-0001tZ-Oo - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 23:03:36 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWPSB-0001tD-Dg - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 23:03:35 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWPSA-0001sV-83 - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 23:03:35 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWPS9-0001sN-Sh - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 23:03:33 -0400 -Received: from [68.142.201.187] (helo=web31707.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWPTO-0005Rl-Co - for list; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 23:04:50 -0400 -Received: (qmail 73348 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Apr 2006 03:03:32 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=IYQMwwRTdD2lwSh/Bc41jSK5dYMUK+xD9b1vE9e/RtPs8wAO5G9UG6+rHyzjyc5eJTB4XwAz0as9tQYG1DYjVPSUvOZWgymWBi599/iXov/dXV4CdGxL1j6py5b6JyXu3/BusTT3J8WhHlw/CbrrCF+aQCq5td3itgXjCY3LvsI= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31707.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:03:32 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:03:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Axiom bibliography To: Bob McElrath, Bill Page -Cc: list +Subject: Re: Axiom bibliography --- Bob McElrath wrote: @@ -25699,46 +15082,12 @@ updated periodically will be the best compromise - we always have something that works locally (also for offline editing, which does happen), but it is kept current with developments elsewhere. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? 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Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWTP6-0001nd-TV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 03:16:41 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWTP4-0001nB-Tr - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 03:16:38 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWTP2-0001m7-Qx - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 03:16:38 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWTP2-0001ls-Ak - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 03:16:36 -0400 -Received: from [64.233.162.207] (helo=nz-out-0102.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWTQJ-0005vT-IZ - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 03:17:55 -0400 -Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id n29so75552nzf - for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:16:34 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=sel1Zrt2bhMk8vW4VZj3PE8T1hGyH1Q4GRZHVvUn8UZwfqtEPQ+vLh64BVMaFGUwzMpGUtfmCzYGUnyUJcmxhk/pmFea444/wdOg7EEp0mmnDv4IkJdWjF6DEEp7ClRIPf1NYbBTztEimoBKpqHjNenQnpl29m8KRfcD+dQeGHM= -Received: by 10.36.135.3 with SMTP id i3mr375049nzd; - Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:16:34 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.36.134.7 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:16:34 -0700 (PDT) +\start Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:16:34 +0200 From: David Mentre -To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: Benjamin Kosnik , - axiom-developer +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: [Axiom-mail] Axiom and linux distros +Cc: Benjamin Kosnik Hello Gaby, @@ -25765,48 +15114,14 @@ the packaging is "easy" enough though. Best wishes, d. -[1] http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=3Dnames&= -version=3Dall&exact=3D1&keywords=3Daxiom - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWTZM-00060r-Qj - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 03:27:16 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWTZJ-0005zB-13 - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 03:27:13 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWTZH-0005yo-0H - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 03:27:12 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWTZG-0005yk-Qh - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 03:27:10 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FWTaY-0006ho-1d - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 03:28:30 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3K7R8Oe006146 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:27:08 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3K7R8KE006142; - Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:27:08 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f +[1] http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&= +version=all&exact=1&keywords=axiom + +\start Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:27:08 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Axiom bibliography - Bill Page, list - <20060420030332.73346.qmail@web31707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="T7mxYSe680VjQnyC" -Cc: list - - ---T7mxYSe680VjQnyC C Y [Cliff Yapp] wrote: > > The contents of the \cite{} should identify the @@ -25851,53 +15166,10 @@ database would suck. If that happened though we'd still have the local database of references *used* on the site. We just wouldn't be able to obtain new ones. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---T7mxYSe680VjQnyC - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFERzfMjwioWRGe9K0RAmtlAKCZ9ZEf9UckEEIk7hKB6K1DM4OugwCggQWx -MYk/YlDMAKA3oJ3A0uHqC3w= -=e07h ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---T7mxYSe680VjQnyC-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWVYp-0004ci-KC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 05:34:51 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWVYm-0004cD-Rd - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 05:34:49 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWVYl-0004bN-Qh - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 05:34:48 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWVYl-0004bB-Kw - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 05:34:47 -0400 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWVa4-0000ut-32 - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 05:36:08 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k3K9VGA3094792; - Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:31:18 +0200 (CEST) -To: Martin Rubey -From: Martin Rubey +\start Date: 20 Apr 2006 11:36:25 +0200 -Cc: +From: Martin Rubey +To: Martin Rubey Subject: [ANN] Axiom Workshop 2006 -- Final Announcement Dear all, @@ -25938,11 +15210,8 @@ Saturday, April 29 10:00 A. Hersen Implementing a hierarchy of Recurrences 11:00 Workshop III: Presentation of Results - - I hope to see you soon, - Martin Rubey @@ -26023,37 +15292,11 @@ Email: Martin Rubey Homepage: http://axiom-developer.org/workshop - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWZMU-0004eh-SN - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:38:22 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWZMT-0004ea-AN - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:38:21 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWZMS-0004eO-QE - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:38:21 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWZMS-0004eL-Kj - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:38:20 -0400 -Received: from [68.142.201.189] (helo=web31709.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWZNn-0006E8-Gn - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:39:43 -0400 -Received: (qmail 22601 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Apr 2006 13:38:19 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=zrqZpecbPdynXZ3ApKmZ/IyUGYHB5Ki1j4lvQgbzXRaIIwQoxT74J/KzSnVPqasgduYPTgskE2zYKSB7R3T7EtpiGSHlNNgsA0eS1qWyyMitEUv58a8tUgXn10MbzDt6yMTfYTuYOdKg2QN9jILZtLWKk4NP1KltkyCcVhQ+XVE= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31709.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Thu, 20 Apr 2006 06:38:19 PDT Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 06:38:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Axiom bibliography To: Bob McElrath -Cc: list +Subject: Re: Axiom bibliography --- Bob McElrath wrote: @@ -26158,44 +15401,11 @@ entries, in order to spot dead links? OK, I get it now. Sounds great! -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWcaG-00049x-BI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:04:48 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWcQH-0006rD-II - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:54:29 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWcQF-0006qR-Jb - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:54:29 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWcQF-0006qN-H8 - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:54:27 -0400 -Received: from [66.187.233.31] (helo=mx1.redhat.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWcRc-0008TR-B9 - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:55:52 -0400 -Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com - [172.16.52.254]) - by mx1.redhat.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id - k3KGsHHq027432; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:54:17 -0400 -Received: from potter.sfbay.redhat.com (potter.sfbay.redhat.com [172.16.27.15]) - by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.6) with ESMTP id - k3KGsHFj005389; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:54:17 -0400 -Received: from wells.artheist.org (vpn50-16.rdu.redhat.com [172.16.50.16]) - by potter.sfbay.redhat.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k3KGsBTq007345; - Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:54:13 -0400 +\start Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:54:10 -0500 -From: Benjamin Kosnik +From: Benjamin Kosnik To: David Mentre - <3d13dcfc0604200016n7adff697safcece91506a171b@mail.gmail.com> -Cc: list Subject: Re: [Axiom-mail] Axiom and linux distros - > Could you detail this point? By "cross-compilation", do you really > mean like compiling on architecture i386 for arch ppc64? Why? @@ -26264,47 +15436,11 @@ often times ppc64 hardware is unavailable, or slow. This is a pretty common requirement. --benjamin - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWdHI-0006Bx-Lu - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:49:16 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWdHH-0006BU-FB - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:49:15 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWdHG-0006Az-HR - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:49:14 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWdHG-0006Au-DT - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:49:14 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FWdId-0004gT-ES - for list; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:50:39 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3KHnBJ1011491 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:49:11 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3KHnA7I011488; - Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:49:10 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f +\start Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:49:10 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Axiom bibliography - Bill Page, list - <20060420133819.22599.qmail@web31709.mail.mud.yahoo.com> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FeAIMMcddNRN4P4/" -Cc: list - - ---FeAIMMcddNRN4P4/ C Y [Cliff Yapp] wrote: > I take it we aren't going to worry too much about a particular paper @@ -26378,70 +15514,11 @@ cares what that string is? 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This completely eliminates the need for noweave. -Comments? - -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWnrW-000144-6u - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:07:22 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWnrT-00013w-Dx - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:07:19 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWnrR-00013k-Hu - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:07:18 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWnrR-00013h-AU - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:07:17 -0400 -Received: from [193.124.167.24] (helo=inpbox.inp.nsk.su) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWnsv-00076f-0e - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:08:49 -0400 -Received: from star.inp.nsk.su ([193.124.167.6]) - by inpbox.inp.nsk.su with esmtp (Exim 4.50) - id 1FWnrB-0004te-WA; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:07:02 +0700 -Received: from star.inp.nsk.su (star.inp.nsk.su [127.0.0.1]) - by star.inp.nsk.su (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k3L571kv030760; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:07:01 +0700 -Received: from localhost (grozin@localhost) - by star.inp.nsk.su (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id k3L570sV030752; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:07:01 +0700 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:07:00 +0700 (NOVST) From: Andrey G. Grozin -To: root Tim Daly +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: size issue with noweb -Cc: list On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, root wrote: > In particular, I'm beginning to think that we could use latex @@ -26630,81 +15640,23 @@ I think this is a very good idea. I'd only propose to use because the parameter is not optional. -Andrey - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWnvx-0001sG-TW - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:11:57 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWnvw-0001qs-3L - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:11:56 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWnvv-0001qd-C5 - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:11:55 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWnvv-0001qW-1i - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:11:55 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWnxP-0007Tb-5Q - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:13:27 -0400 -Received: from mua-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3L5BhNV003072; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:11:48 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-3.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD5A7F404; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:11:44 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3L56Gd13432; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:06:16 -0400 +\start Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:06:16 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Andrey G. Grozin - (Andrey G. Grozin) Subject: Re: size issue with noweb - -Cc: list excellent point. this would be a two-pass process similar to the handling of \cite{} -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWp0V-0006tF-MQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:20:43 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWp0U-0006sn-I9 - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:20:42 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWp0S-0006rQ-2i - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:20:42 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWp0R-0006rN-VH - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:20:40 -0400 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWp1w-0003QK-4A - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:22:12 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k3L6KAGi039450; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 08:20:29 +0200 (CEST) +Date: 21 Apr 2006 08:25:22 +0200 To: Tim Daly -Subject: Re: [ANN] Axiom Workshop 2006 -- Final Announcement - <85y7y0pp0m.fsf@localhost.localdomain> - <200604201310.k3KDASF13167@localhost.localdomain> From: Martin Rubey -Date: 21 Apr 2006 08:25:22 +0200 -Cc: axiom-dev +Subject: Re: [ANN] Axiom Workshop 2006 -- Final Announcement -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: > Martin, > @@ -26730,44 +15682,15 @@ Ralf Hemmecke's work is available through his homepage. Antoine Hersen will do so after the workshop, I suppose. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWq0E-0001T5-Fe - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 03:24:30 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWq0D-0001T0-9X - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 03:24:29 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWq0B-0001RF-It - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 03:24:28 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWq0B-0001Qu-Ev - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 03:24:27 -0400 -Received: from [64.233.162.207] (helo=nz-out-0102.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWq1g-00080Z-Sh - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 03:26:01 -0400 -Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 14so318692nzn - for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:24:26 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=T+ZDbAyOcovzW0ZyCeLgGxiC8kyOOc4BMRp+OAJPjlNQA1aU7X+bJL5jkcwaTT6mvqi4N97MnJ9tCOe6BV9KhL4iDke2dDVxjxzuK/fc7Iq7AuaFIQNaY0WFpdxGnMQPNKl+nA0LyiEIzSvq+0CAceg3wCzveHddCG54MPCzaJ4= -Received: by 10.36.134.3 with SMTP id h3mr1947711nzd; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:24:26 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.36.134.7 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:24:26 +0200 From: David Mentre To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: size issue with noweb -Cc: list Hello Tim, -2006/4/21, root Tim Daly: +2006/4/21, Tim Daly: > The process takes 20 seconds on a 3.2Ghz processor. > 16 of those seconds (80% of the total time) involve noweb. @@ -26801,7 +15724,7 @@ performance penalty is syntax related (ok, I've just understood that this syntax change would eliminate the noweave processing)? -> <>=3D +> <>= > foo > @ > @@ -26830,44 +15753,11 @@ Python or Perl to apply automatically this transformation. Just one point: does noweave apply a specific treatment to "[[ ]]" marks or is it handled by latex macros? -Best wishes, -d. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWr74-0002Rd-SM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:35:38 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWr73-0002RY-6H - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:35:37 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWr71-0002R5-Ol - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:35:36 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWr71-0002R2-MA - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:35:35 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWr8X-0004y7-N3 - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:37:09 -0400 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3L8ZPgS026284; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:35:30 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F747F403; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:35:26 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3L8TxC13833; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:29:59 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:29:59 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: David Mentre - (David Mentre) Subject: Re: size issue with noweb - <3d13dcfc0604210024x2bdce5b2k52f2aa2b059c48b3@mail.gmail.com> -Cc: list the idea is that we could eliminate noweave as a function by using latex markup to specify the syntax. that eliminates @@ -26899,40 +15789,12 @@ and reduced the i/o costs below measurable values. noweb uses a lot of awk-sed processing rather than a single C program and i think the process does not scale. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWrCV-00052z-8r - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:41:15 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWrCS-00050a-2U - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:41:12 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWrCO-0004wz-Kd - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:41:10 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWrCO-0004wl-CZ - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:41:08 -0400 -Received: from [218.40.30.107] (helo=smtp10.tiki.ne.jp) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FWrDt-0005NE-Qj - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:42:42 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.11.5] (pl370.nas933.takamatsu.nttpc.ne.jp - [210.136.183.114]) (authenticated bits=0) - by smtp10.tiki.ne.jp (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3L8etYS081036 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:40:56 +0900 (JST) - (envelope-from fusion@mx6.tiki.ne.jp) - <3d13dcfc0604210024x2bdce5b2k52f2aa2b059c48b3@mail.gmail.com> - <200604210829.k3L8TxC13833@localhost.localdomain> -From: Jean-Christophe Helary -Subject: Re: size issue with noweb Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:40:54 +0900 +From: Jean-Christophe Helary To: Tim Daly -Cc: list, David MENTRE David Mentre +Subject: Re: size issue with noweb +Cc: David Mentre Tim, @@ -26946,9 +15808,6 @@ for emacs I found the highest barrier to localization is the fact that the code and the documentation are pretty much one and the same in literate programming. Or Am I misunderstanding something ? -Regards, -Jean-Christophe Helary - On 2006/04/21, at 17:29, root wrote: > the idea is that we could eliminate noweave as a function @@ -26957,45 +15816,12 @@ On 2006/04/21, at 17:29, root wrote: > that pamphlets are simply latex documents with a special style > file and can be processed without noweb. - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWrT4-0003fD-4h - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:58:22 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWrT1-0003di-LR - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:58:19 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWrSy-0003ax-AV - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:58:18 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWrSx-0003ak-Vt - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:58:16 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWrUT-0006uO-V7 - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:59:50 -0400 -Received: from mua-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3L8w7lf007426; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:58:07 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-1.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4757F40F; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:58:07 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3L8qeB13853; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:52:40 -0400 +\start Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:52:40 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly -To: fusion@mx6.tiki.ne.jp - from Jean-Christophe Helary on Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:40:54 +0900) +From: Tim Daly +To: Jean-Christophe Helary Subject: Re: size issue with noweb - <3d13dcfc0604210024x2bdce5b2k52f2aa2b059c48b3@mail.gmail.com> - <200604210829.k3L8TxC13833@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list, David Mentre +Cc: David Mentre > > On a related note, I was wondering if such self documenting processes @@ -27029,95 +15855,35 @@ so there are at least 4 different levels of translation that would need to occur. personally i'd take them in the order listed as that moves from the largest audience down to the smallest. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWrWw-00045D-8u - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:02:22 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWrWu-000451-Ne - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:02:20 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWrWq-00044p-9x - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:02:19 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWrWp-00044m-TB - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:02:15 -0400 -Received: from [212.27.42.36] (helo=smtp6-g19.free.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWrYM-0007B3-0a - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:03:50 -0400 -Received: from melusine (pat35-1-82-231-148-189.fbx.proxad.net - [82.231.148.189]) - by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8B8214B7 - for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:02:14 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from lehobey by melusine with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) - id 1FWrWo-0001Mw-00 - for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:02:14 +0200 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:02:14 +0200 To: list -Subject: Re: size issue with noweb - <3d13dcfc0604210024x2bdce5b2k52f2aa2b059c48b3@mail.gmail.com> - <200604210829.k3L8TxC13833@localhost.localdomain> - From: Frederic Lehobey +Subject: Re: size issue with noweb Hi, On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 05:40:54PM +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: -> On a related note, I was wondering if such self documenting processes =20 -> would not make the translation/localization a order of magnitude more =20 +> On a related note, I was wondering if such self documenting processes +> would not make the translation/localization a order of magnitude more > difficult ? Actually, getting rid of noweb and replacing it with regular latex syntax would make axiom books much easier to translate with tools like po4a (see -http://lehobey-rennes.dyndns.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=3Ddoc:axiom:traduct= +http://lehobey-rennes.dyndns.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=doc:axiom:traduct= ion#utiliser_po4a from my message of Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Message-ID: <20060307175300.GB7310@melusine>). Books are not the whole story though. -Best regards, -Fr=E9d=E9ric - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWrhk-0007uk-TT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:13:32 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWrhi-0007se-9Y - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:13:30 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWrhf-0007rV-FJ - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:13:29 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWrhf-0007rS-A3 - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:13:27 -0400 -Received: from [218.40.30.106] (helo=smtp9.tiki.ne.jp) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FWrjB-0007s0-D3 - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:15:01 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.11.5] (pl370.nas933.takamatsu.nttpc.ne.jp - [210.136.183.114]) (authenticated bits=0) - by smtp9.tiki.ne.jp (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3L9DM8n073535 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) - for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:13:23 +0900 (JST) - (envelope-from fusion@mx6.tiki.ne.jp) - <3d13dcfc0604210024x2bdce5b2k52f2aa2b059c48b3@mail.gmail.com> - <200604210829.k3L8TxC13833@localhost.localdomain> - - <20060421090214.GC4238@melusine> -From: Jean-Christophe Helary -Subject: Re: size issue with noweb Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:13:20 +0900 +From: Jean-Christophe Helary To: list +Subject: Re: size issue with noweb Thanks for the links Frederic. @@ -27127,7 +15893,7 @@ On 2006/04/21, at 18:02, Frederic Lehobey wrote: > Hi, > -> On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 05:40:54PM +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary =20 +> On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 05:40:54PM +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary > wrote: > >> On a related note, I was wondering if such self documenting processes @@ -27137,61 +15903,22 @@ On 2006/04/21, at 18:02, Frederic Lehobey wrote: > Actually, getting rid of noweb and replacing it with regular latex > syntax would make axiom books much easier to translate with tools like > po4a (see -> http://lehobey-rennes.dyndns.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?=20 -> id=3Ddoc:axiom:traduction#utiliser_po4a +> http://lehobey-rennes.dyndns.org/dokuwiki/doku.php? +> id=doc:axiom:traduction#utiliser_po4a > from my message of Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Message-ID: > <20060307175300.GB7310@melusine>). > > Books are not the whole story though. -> -> Best regards, -> Fr=E9d=E9ric -> -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer -> - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWrx6-00053Y-Ug - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:29:24 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWrx5-00053S-2j - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:29:23 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWrx3-00053D-JX - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:29:22 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWrx3-00053A-EC - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:29:21 -0400 -Received: from [64.233.162.194] (helo=nz-out-0102.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWryZ-0000lQ-88 - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:30:55 -0400 -Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 14so339799nzn - for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:29:20 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=rSCIaU0E1ofaveKeF9r7sV19gieQzAJwwtPxoCvzyjSPpBwt1KVTByZSLg0pl5xacrLIslFZj5iwBOjGSN58Jf41MV1UJ1gmZD2LkUIPddFpDNmRko4TUV+ugltCyzwC3fEzV9pMmxHy/lxC/XSYeacxTj7t4N6cCp8mjbEY1V4= -Received: by 10.36.81.3 with SMTP id e3mr608265nzb; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:29:20 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.36.134.7 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:29:19 +0200 From: David Mentre To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: size issue with noweb - <3d13dcfc0604210024x2bdce5b2k52f2aa2b059c48b3@mail.gmail.com> - <200604210829.k3L8TxC13833@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list Tim, -2006/4/21, root Tim Daly: +2006/4/21, Tim Daly: > the idea is that we could eliminate noweave as a function > by using latex markup to specify the syntax. that eliminates > one half of the noweb functionality. @@ -27235,42 +15962,16 @@ think DTrace has been recently ported to Linux. In practical terms, beside just comments, do you need help on the code? I could give a try to a notangle in Common Lisp but you would be probably much more efficient than me (and the code would probably be -cleaner :-) . However, I could try to write a noweb->new-latex-syntax=20 +cleaner :-) . However, I could try to write a noweb->new-latex-syntax filter in Python. What do you think of it? -Best wishes, -d. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWw6h-0003Lw-6s - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:55:35 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWw6f-0003Li-Dc - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:55:33 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWw6e-0003LW-Ox - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:55:33 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWw6e-0003LT-LP - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:55:32 -0400 -Received: from [24.116.0.230] (helo=S4.cableone.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWw8D-0000ls-GF - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:57:09 -0400 -Received: from vh213602.truman.edu.truman.edu (unverified [24.117.100.92]) - by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 55035203 - for multiple; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 07:40:06 -0700 +Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 08:55:25 -0500 +From: Jay Belanger To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: size issue with noweb -From: Jay Belanger -Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 08:55:25 -0500 - of "Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:44:55 -0400") -Cc: list - -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: ... > In particular, I'm beginning to think that we could use latex > syntax for chunks as in: @@ -27306,47 +16007,11 @@ similar. (I later hacked that into EMaxima.) <> was still <>, though. I like \chunk{chunkname} better. The notangle part of TeX/Mathematica was written in Elisp, though. -Jay - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWy3c-0007kU-3u - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:00:32 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWy3Z-0007jR-Kz - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:00:29 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FWy3X-0007ir-Tz - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:00:29 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWy3X-0007ik-ET - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:00:27 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWy57-0003gT-DQ - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:02:05 -0400 -Received: from mua-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3LG0ChN023947; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:00:15 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-3.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387447F57D; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:47:31 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3LFg3m14028; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:42:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:42:03 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: David Mentre - (David Mentre) Subject: Re: size issue with noweb - <3d13dcfc0604210024x2bdce5b2k52f2aa2b059c48b3@mail.gmail.com> - <200604210829.k3L8TxC13833@localhost.localdomain> - <3d13dcfc0604210229n3c8dad24i3df0a4c2e8360123@mail.gmail.com> -Cc: list > In practical terms, beside just comments, do you need help on the > code? I could give a try to a notangle in Common Lisp but you would be @@ -27365,36 +16030,11 @@ to be instantaneous. there is nothing like a large project to foster tool development :-) -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FX06z-0008P9-Rw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:12:09 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FX06y-0008Oh-0d - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:12:08 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FX06v-0008OA-6P - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:12:06 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FX06u-0008Nw-SJ - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:12:04 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.211] (helo=mails11.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FX08W-00088i-HJ - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:13:44 -0400 -Received: from asus (206-47-29-226.anikast.net [206.47.29.226]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails11.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k3LIBa0d027462; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:11:53 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: -Subject: RE: size issue with noweb Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:11:22 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" +From: Bill Page +To: list +Subject: RE: size issue with noweb Cc: David Mentre On April 21, 2006 11:42 AM Tim Daly (root) wrote: @@ -27486,46 +16126,12 @@ of an "outline" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_%28editor%29 -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FX1L2-0007Bq-9O - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:30:44 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FX1L0-00079L-9O - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:30:42 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FX1Ky-000799-G8 - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:30:41 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FX1Ky-000796-Ao - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:30:40 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FX1Ma-0005cX-OM - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:32:20 -0400 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3LJUOnx012756; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:30:29 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898FF7F404; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:30:24 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3LJOt114130; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:24:55 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:24:55 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: size issue with noweb -Cc: dtroeger@cssfs0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu, list, - David Mentre +Cc: Douglas Troeger, David Mentre > > until this massive project settles down i don't have the time to > > undertake the project. at some point the little slices of noweb @@ -27609,46 +16215,11 @@ working with real, industrial strength tools. We'll shortly have a 1THz processor with 1TByte of memory. Why limit our thinking to 1960s technology? -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FX3CR-0004lD-9d - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:29:59 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FX3CQ-0004jp-3Z - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:29:58 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FX3CP-0004ip-99 - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:29:57 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FX3CP-0004ik-4p - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:29:57 -0400 -Received: from [193.252.22.31] (helo=smtp11.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FX3E2-0006UO-Et - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:31:38 -0400 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 88B8C1C0008D - for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 23:29:54 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from morgana (ARennes-257-1-165-234.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr - [86.214.76.234]) - by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 390181C0008A; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 23:29:54 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from david by morgana with local (Exim 4.50) - id 1FX3D7-00025U-RC; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 23:30:41 +0200 +Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 23:30:41 +0200 To: Tim Daly -Subject: Re: size issue with noweb - <3d13dcfc0604210024x2bdce5b2k52f2aa2b059c48b3@mail.gmail.com> - <200604210829.k3L8TxC13833@localhost.localdomain> - <3d13dcfc0604210229n3c8dad24i3df0a4c2e8360123@mail.gmail.com> From: David Mentre -Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 23:30:41 +0200 - (David MENTRE's message of "Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:29:19 +0200") -Cc: list - ---=-=-= +Subject: Re: size issue with noweb Tim, @@ -27678,7 +16249,7 @@ If you find the result safe enough, could you send it to me? Best wishes, d. -- -David MENTRE David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage +David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage --=-=-= @@ -27754,47 +16325,11 @@ def obfuscate_file(filename): obfuscate_file(sys.argv[1]) ---=-=-=-- - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FX4VX-0001pV-Ld - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:53:47 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FX4VW-0001or-Pl - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:53:46 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FX4VV-0001o0-6T - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:53:46 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FX4VU-0001nt-UD - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:53:44 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FX4X9-0003gd-5y - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:55:27 -0400 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3LMrUwZ027862; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:53:35 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C2A7F404; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:53:30 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3LMm0114228; - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:48:00 -0400 +\start Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:48:00 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: David Mentre - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 23:30:41 +0200) Subject: Re: size issue with noweb - <3d13dcfc0604210024x2bdce5b2k52f2aa2b059c48b3@mail.gmail.com> - <200604210829.k3L8TxC13833@localhost.localdomain> - <3d13dcfc0604210229n3c8dad24i3df0a4c2e8360123@mail.gmail.com> - <871wvqty4e.fsf@linux-france.org> -Cc: list umm, that would probably be unwise in the extreme. you and i know that it's obfuscated but that's a detail that would be overlooked by @@ -27803,37 +16338,10 @@ human resources. try consing together a few dozen axiom files. that should be large enough to show the effect. and it is valid input. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FX4sr-0003yD-AV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 19:17:53 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FX4so-0003xT-V1 - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 19:17:50 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FX4sm-0003w8-7X - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 19:17:50 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FX4sm-0003w3-2D - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 19:17:48 -0400 -Received: from [193.252.22.27] (helo=smtp4.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FX4uQ-0005or-GG - for list; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 19:19:30 -0400 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf0403.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 70D4D1C0032A - for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 01:17:45 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from ALille-251-1-46-45.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-46-45.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.200.45]) - by mwinf0403.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 138071C00326; - Sat, 22 Apr 2006 01:17:45 +0200 (CEST) -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Timothy Daly Tim Daly Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 01:17:56 +0200 -Cc: axiom-developer +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Tim Daly Subject: Status of bugs on IssueTracker Hi Tim, @@ -27842,10 +16350,6 @@ Can you look at the following issues when time permits ? Some of them can probably be closed. -Cheers, - -Greg - # old (?) pending status =========================================================== @@ -27918,35 +16422,11 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/151EnvironmentVariableAXIOM #277 Patches for GCL on Linux http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/277PatchesForGCLOnLinux - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FXBJL-0001Vk-9f - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 02:09:39 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FXBJJ-0001VR-FP - for list; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 02:09:37 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FXBJH-0001VF-Ew - for list; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 02:09:37 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FXBJH-0001VC-B1 - for list; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 02:09:35 -0400 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FXBKz-00086Y-RE - for list; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 02:11:22 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k3M68s6H040247; - Sat, 22 Apr 2006 08:08:57 +0200 (CEST) -To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: Re: Status of bugs on IssueTracker -From: Martin Rubey Date: 22 Apr 2006 08:14:09 +0200 -Cc: axiom-developer +From: Martin Rubey +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: Status of bugs on IssueTracker Dear "greg", @@ -27962,148 +16442,104 @@ Martin Vanuxem Gr=E9gory Gregory Vanuxem writes: > Hi Tim, ->=20 +> > Can you look at the following issues when time permits ? ->=20 +> > Some of them can probably be closed. ->=20 +> > Cheers, ->=20 +> > Greg ->=20 +> > # old (?) pending status -> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ->=20 +> ========================= +========================== +========== +> > #109 hyperdoc uncompress failed > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/109HyperdocUncompressFailed ->=20 +> > #153 make install does not install a needed libdb.text for HyperDoc > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/153MakeInstallDoesNotInstallANeededLibdbT= extForHyperDoc ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > # can probably be closed -> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ->=20 -> #105 integrate(z^3000, z=3D0..1) +> ========================= +========================== +========== +> +> #105 integrate(z^3000, z=0..1) > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/105IntegrateZ3000Z01 ->=20 +> > #190 Compile fail on Fedora Core 4 > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/190CompileFailOnFedoraCore4 ->=20 +> > #127 Building axiom from source fails on my Fedora Core 3 > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/127BuildingAxiomFromSourceFailsOnMyFedora= Core3 ->=20 +> > #266 Axiom binary for Fedora Core 4 does not start properly > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/266AxiomBinaryForFedoraCore4DoesNotStartP= roperly ->=20 +> > #33 GCL fails to compile on Fedora Core 3 > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/33GCLFailsToCompileOnFedoraCore3 ->=20 +> > #28 GCL 2.6.5 on FC3 > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/28GCL265OnFC3 ->=20 +> > #30 make install: no such file or directory > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/30MakeInstallNoSuchFileOrDirectory ->=20 +> > #46 termio vs ptermio (in src/clef/edible.c) > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/46TermioVsPtermioInSrcClefEdibleC ->=20 +> > #129 patch-32 fails to display 3D graphics > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/129Patch32FailsToDisplay3DGraphics ->=20 +> > #126 /bin/sh vs /bin/bash scripting inconsistancy > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/126BinShVsBinBashScriptingInconsistancy ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > # Humm, the next ones, I don't know > ---------------------------------------------------------- ->=20 +> > #57 Databases are not copied back > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/57DatabasesAreNotCopiedBack ->=20 -> #62 make GCL=3D does not override properly +> +> #62 make GCL= does not override properly > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/62MakeGCLDoesNotOverrideProperly ->=20 +> > #80 Semantic Errors when building algebra > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/80SemanticErrorsWhenBuildingAlgebra ->=20 -> # does not crash with #196 ')set functions compile on' fixed=20 +> +> # does not crash with #196 ')set functions compile on' fixed > # but does not work. Is the code correct? > #156 Axiom crashes when compiling simple Taylor code > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/156AxiomCrashesWhenCompilingSimpleTaylorC= ode ->=20 +> > # AXIOM variable probably not set > #147 axiom-Apr2005-src.tgz fails on fedora 3 > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/147AxiomApr2005SrcTgzFailsOnFedora3 > and > #151 Environment variable AXIOM > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/151EnvironmentVariableAXIOM ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > #277 Patches for GCL on Linux > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/277PatchesForGCLOnLinux ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FXCuQ-0004FT-Bc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 03:52:02 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FXCuP-0004FD-Dm - for list; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 03:52:01 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FXCuO-0004EX-9P - for list; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 03:52:00 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FXCuO-0004EQ-3R - for list; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 03:52:00 -0400 -Received: from [193.252.22.31] (helo=smtp11.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FXCw7-0006bZ-JK - for list; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 03:53:47 -0400 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B52731C00099 - for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:51:58 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from morgana (ARennes-257-1-21-191.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr - [81.53.4.191]) - by mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 890061C0008D; - Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:51:58 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from david by morgana with local (Exim 4.50) - id 1FXCv8-0001HQ-GQ; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:52:46 +0200 +Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:52:46 +0200 To: Tim Daly -Subject: Re: size issue with noweb - <3d13dcfc0604210024x2bdce5b2k52f2aa2b059c48b3@mail.gmail.com> - <200604210829.k3L8TxC13833@localhost.localdomain> - <3d13dcfc0604210229n3c8dad24i3df0a4c2e8360123@mail.gmail.com> - <871wvqty4e.fsf@linux-france.org> - <200604212248.k3LMm0114228@localhost.localdomain> From: David Mentre -Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:52:46 +0200 - (Tim Daly's - message of "Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:48:00 -0400") -Cc: list +Subject: Re: size issue with noweb Hello Tim, -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: > umm, that would probably be unwise in the extreme. you and i know > that it's obfuscated but that's a detail that would be overlooked by @@ -28122,48 +16558,12 @@ existed. Anyway, you have now some Python code that is able to parse noweb files. :) -Best wishes, -d. --- -David MENTRE David Mentre -- http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FXU8v-0007kT-FS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:16:09 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FXU8t-0007kO-H8 - for list; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:16:07 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FXU8r-0007kC-5G - for list; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:16:06 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FXU8q-0007k9-Ua - for list; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:16:04 -0400 -Received: from [64.233.184.226] (helo=wproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FXUAl-0007qs-EW - for list; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:18:03 -0400 -Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i14so806483wra - for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 19:16:04 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; - b=jxhT38Ddbr1jq+7Uz/uJc7nI7Ciu7OMAKfUYSyj8Ot7KA364OUl/qFjGMFqZlppYNA0aynERgk2l6PTy3rvDmDQ6eD55sRWeDvtfdCe3FDfeyiK5TsBEAhit4B3WWuhq+GwOxKoMZEWLWpvhaSC3p6xmK8pG67ngdgvL7ge9gXI= -Received: by 10.65.43.4 with SMTP id v4mr392777qbj; - Sat, 22 Apr 2006 19:16:04 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.64.143.20 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 19:16:04 -0700 (PDT) +\start Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:16:04 -0400 From: Alfredo Portes -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page - boundary="----=_Part_14681_32528426.1145758564222" - -Cc: list +To: Bill Page Subject: Latest Release -------=_Part_14681_32528426.1145758564222 - The latest build for Doyen has been released and uploaded to axiom-developer. The docs have been tested and have been used to successfully reproduced doyen on two separate machines. Please feel free to @@ -28178,58 +16578,11 @@ Wilken -- Jose Alfredo Perez -------=_Part_14681_32528426.1145758564222 - -
The latest build for Doyen has been released and = -uploaded to -axiom-developer. The docs have been tested and have been used to -successfully reproduced doyen on two separate machines. Please feel -free to test the latest iso and the build procedure for the Live-CD.
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-http:/= -/alfredo.axiom-developer.org/doyen/doyen-42206.iso
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-best regards,
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Jose Alfredo Perez - -------=_Part_14681_32528426.1145758564222-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FXYuY-00024V-NA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 03:21:38 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FXYuX-00024Q-Lm - for list; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 03:21:37 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FXYuW-00024D-QS - for list; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 03:21:37 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FXYuW-00024A-Mt - for list; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 03:21:36 -0400 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FXYwT-0001a4-Vn - for list; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 03:23:38 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k3N7L04o086980 - for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:21:03 +0200 (CEST) -To: axiom-dev -From: Martin Rubey Date: 23 Apr 2006 09:26:20 +0200 -Subject: What Axiom is really good at in comparison with - other CAS +From: Martin Rubey +To: list +Subject: What Axiom is really good at in comparison with other CAS Dear all, @@ -28247,47 +16600,12 @@ Note that I'm well aware of the fact that some abilities may be contoversial. Thus, for presentation, I will pick the most uncontroversial thoughts, of course. -Thank you, - -Martin - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FXiQQ-00018L-W2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:31:11 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FXiQO-00014p-6K - for list; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:31:08 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FXiQM-00012j-Gg - for list; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:31:07 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FXiQM-00012e-BE - for list; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:31:06 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FXiSP-00024y-LK - for list; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:33:13 -0400 -Received: from mua-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3NHUugM005399; - Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:30:56 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-1.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270FA7F40F; - Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:30:56 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3NHPNW22873; - Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:25:23 -0400 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:25:23 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly -To: soc2006support@google.com -Cc: Heow Eide-Goodman Heow Eide-Goodman, "Page, - Bill" Bill Page, list +From: Tim Daly +To: list Subject: Summer of Code application +Cc: Heow Eide-Goodman, Bill Page I would like to submit Axiom as a Summer of Code project for 2006. @@ -28328,41 +16646,9 @@ We have tried to create an Axiom Foundation to pay for work on supported projects but that has not been successful. Open source funding is always a challenge. -Tim Daly -Axiom Lead Developer. -Tim Daly - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FY1aH-0000NT-Uc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:58:38 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FY1aG-0000Mk-C4 - for list; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:58:36 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FY1aE-0000Lv-OX - for list; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:58:35 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FY1aE-0000Ls-Ao - for list; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:58:34 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FY1cT-0007ll-EW - for list; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:00:53 -0400 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3ODwVob010636 - for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:58:31 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91607F409 - for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:58:31 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3ODr0Q23492; - Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:53:00 -0400 +\start Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:53:00 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: axiom opportunity @@ -28398,40 +16684,9 @@ force axiom's user interface to mature rapidly. Comments? -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FY1uK-00005u-CY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:19:20 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FY1uI-0008Ve-HI - for list; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:19:18 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FY1uH-0008VJ-Ky - for list; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:19:17 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FY1uH-0008VE-GF - for list; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:19:17 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FY1wW-000145-Vl - for list; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:21:37 -0400 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3OEJET7024741 - for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:19:14 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B9F7F406 - for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:19:14 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3OEDh123505; - Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:13:43 -0400 Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:13:43 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: axiom opportunity @@ -28439,123 +16694,34 @@ http://www.japancorp.net/Article.Asp?ART_ID=9507 Another article on the axiom opportunity -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FY2Vr-0001dx-Ug - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:58:08 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FY2Vq-0001dK-4l - for list; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:58:06 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FY2Vn-0001bc-Dy - for list; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:58:05 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FY2Vn-0001bZ-8i - for list; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:58:03 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FY2Y3-0004wS-0C - for list; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:00:23 -0400 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3OEvrbx004494 - for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:57:58 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730B77F40C - for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:57:54 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3OEqOb23560; - Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:52:24 -0400 Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:52:24 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: list Subject: issac 2006 Is anyone else on this list planning to attend either ISSAC 2006 or the Manuel Bronstein conference? -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FY63H-0000T0-2C - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:44:51 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FY63E-0000Sg-Mk - for list; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:44:48 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FY63A-0000SQ-5K - for list; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:44:47 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FY639-0000SN-W6 - for list; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:44:44 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FY65R-00026D-VX - for list; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:47:06 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 1CBA667ED4; - Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:44:40 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 496A26782B; - Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:44:34 -0400 (EDT) -Subject: RE: issac 2006 - charset="US-ASCII" +\start Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:44:34 -0400 -x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 -Thread-Topic: issac 2006 -Thread-Index: AcZnr4h/iXgmey7ATyOpKTQFOhAv8AAH04Yg From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Cc: list +Subject: RE: issac 2006 On Monday, April 24, 2006 10:52 AM Tim Daly (root) wrote: ->=20 +> > Is anyone else on this list planning to attend either > ISSAC 2006 or the Manuel Bronstein conference? ->=20 +> For me it is a definite *maybe* for both. :) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FY6yR-0004gt-Mo - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:43:55 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FY6yP-0004gW-1z - for list; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:43:53 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FY6yN-0004gJ-5U - for list; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:43:52 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FY6yN-0004gG-04 - for list; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:43:51 -0400 -Received: from [206.46.252.46] (helo=vms046pub.verizon.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FY70f-0007LL-HP - for list; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:46:13 -0400 -Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([162.83.169.164]) - by vms046.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 - (built Sep - 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0IY800440S50GBC1@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for - list; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:43:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:43:52 -0400 From: William Sit -Subject: Re: issac 2006 To: Tim Daly -Message-id: <444D2A78.1217B8D7@cunyvm.cuny.edu> -MIME-version: 1.0 -Cc: list +Subject: Re: issac 2006 root wrote: @@ -28564,39 +16730,11 @@ root wrote: For me, yes to both. -William - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYHnA-0006Vb-01 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 03:17:00 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYHn8-0006V9-FH - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 03:16:58 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYHn6-0006Uq-Qg - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 03:16:58 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYHn6-0006Uh-Lm - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 03:16:56 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FYHpV-0003wR-W1 - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 03:19:26 -0400 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3P7GplU020488 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:16:51 +0200 +\start Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:17:58 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: issac 2006 -Cc: list I'll be at the Bronstein conference. @@ -28608,38 +16746,11 @@ On 04/24/2006 04:52 PM, root wrote: > > Tim - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYLZf-0005PR-MW - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 07:19:19 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYLZe-0005PD-Dm - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 07:19:18 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYLZd-0005Og-H8 - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 07:19:17 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYLZd-0005Oc-8f - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 07:19:17 -0400 -Received: from [66.249.82.202] (helo=xproxy.gmail.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYLc4-0004Lv-PM - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 07:21:49 -0400 -Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t4so790897wxc - for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 04:19:15 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; - b=H0kwwvtE2pJhMzNmmYZTQy1cF/Vl/tR6AJJruQF4LTVFycVvaV9jYElDuiFU+rW1qS9sZyj6G6tXj0FO0hHAfMJJ7Iz+hptYuWl+VpVQNzqf7fSGJ3Hl5BKzk7pMmVgcZCOdkFvlGFgysszqGzQ+OzcQw1gek8VigHoVlSJozAs= -Received: by 10.70.130.15 with SMTP id c15mr5464277wxd; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 04:19:15 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.70.131.5 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 04:19:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 04:19:15 -0700 -From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen +From: Antoine Hersen To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: axiom opportunity - boundary="----=_Part_12791_15778870.1145963955158" -Cc: list ------=_Part_12791_15778870.1145963955158 @@ -28667,13 +16778,13 @@ is according to http://distrowatch.com/ in order : Rank Distribution H.P.D* 1 Ubuntu 2659[ima= ge: ->] 2 SUSE 1770[image: =3D] 3 +>] 2 SUSE 1770[image: =] 3 Fedora 1383[image: >] 4 Mandriva 1330[image: <] 5 MEPIS 974[image: >] 6 Damn Small 915[image: >] 7 Debian 810[image: >] 8 -KNOPPIX 695[image: =3D] 9 +KNOPPIX 695[image: =] 9 Gentoo 679[image: >] 10 PCLinuxOS 655[image: >= ] @@ -28728,203 +16839,11 @@ There will be the problem of Latex, that might be a lot of works to male O= O parse Latex. -Regards, -Antoine Hersen - -------=_Part_12791_15778870.1145963955158 - -
Axiom has be= -en shown to run on Yellow Dog, which is a chinese
language version of li= -nux. -

Yellow Dog is PPC version of RedHat :
http://www.terrasoftsolutio= -ns.com/products/ydl/
 
Red Flag is what we perceived as the = -Chinese Linux : -
http://www.redflag= --linux.com/eindex.html

-I think we need to start positioning ourselves to be the computer
algebr= -a system for these linux systems. Which implies we spend
some time tryin= -g to get axiom working in conjunction with things
like Open Office. -

We should try to have Axiom in is current form available as a pack= -age for all the popular distribution from there respective official reposit= -ory. That is according to http://distro= -watch.com/ - in order :

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I think it is only the case for De= -bian right know.

-Open Office has a component that creates mathematical equations
but does= - little else.

Koffice has one too, that might be easie= -r to extract than  touching OpenOffice.

QT/KDE could also be a = -good choice for a cross platform UI has open source version are available f= -or Linux/Win/Mac -
 

We could use this component as a front end
and overtake its current u= -se by adding a combination of tools -
under the math component.

We could combine open office math with= - the lex editor (for literate
programs) and axiom.
I did not have success for googling for "lex editor" can you pos= -t a url please ? -
 

Someone could study the various components and
do a high level design= - document that would coordinate combining the -
components. Are there any 'software designers' in on the mailing list?<= -/blockquote>

Kind of. But did we decided on a set of desired capabi= -lity ?

-A widespread adoption of an axiom/OO math tool would also raise the
issu= -e of B-natural rather quickly since people will certainly
complain about= - user interaction issues.

Axiom/OO sound strange, I th= -ink there is a plugin to use Mupad with Ms Office anybody has used this sys= -tem ? -

Try= -ing to work with open office as a front-end will certainly
force axiom's= - user interface to mature rapidly. -

There will be the problem of  Latex, that might = -be a lot of works to male OO parse Latex.

Regards,
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OOo is not one of them. -Best wishes, -d. - [1] http://www.openoffice.org/product/pix/math-big.png - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYMzU-00046k-CL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 08:50:04 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYMzS-00046A-Tv - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 08:50:02 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYMzR-00045G-P8 - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 08:50:02 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYMzR-00045B-J9 - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 08:50:01 -0400 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYN1t-00076G-Ub - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 08:52:34 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k3PCk1rf050259; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:46:04 +0200 (CEST) +Date: 25 Apr 2006 14:51:26 +0200 +From: Martin Rubey To: David Mentre Subject: Re: axiom opportunity - - <3d13dcfc0604250531i4067cf38q5dac649e6707ab68@mail.gmail.com> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 25 Apr 2006 14:51:26 +0200 -Cc: list I think tex4ht can also do openoffice: http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/mn3.html#QQ1-3-10 -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYNqr-0001Z7-SR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:45:13 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYNqp-0001Z2-12 - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:45:11 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYNqn-0001Yq-GK - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:45:09 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYNqn-0001Yn-BZ - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:45:09 -0400 -Received: from [68.142.201.186] (helo=web31706.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYNtG-0004xp-9M - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:47:42 -0400 -Received: (qmail 27631 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Apr 2006 13:45:07 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=3WmCha8xsPS+rBI01ntulrV8RQ9bB8ZFdz6VgX0h2pArT7bqolmZ0VdAf2+44+4JGIeEAHY8c+sRMa7EXq74pYvPEA02g7CR+0akQWU0dSkmQ9Nu1Nmu8g3yhk/LbhtjndaBW8NtPQDvKXGtThk0RvrIIxDDUrqbhXLW3vkEZlw= - ; -Received: from [216.174.43.195] by web31706.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 06:45:07 PDT Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 06:45:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: axiom opportunity To: Antoine Hersen, Tim Daly -Cc: list - ---- Antoine Hersen wrote: +Subject: Re: axiom opportunity > > I think we need to start positioning ourselves to be the computer > > algebra system for these linux systems. Which implies we spend @@ -29126,47 +16989,11 @@ Maxima had someone who did work on this - it looks like the better way is to teach Axiom to output OpenOffice math expressions. I have no idea how much work this would be. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around -http://mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYP6W-0008UX-It - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:05:28 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYP6V-0008TB-BU - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:05:27 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYP6T-0008SV-5f - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:05:26 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYP6S-0008SS-OY - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:05:25 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYP8v-0004bd-Et - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:07:58 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 2E37A67C6E; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:05:20 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 31F3567CAD; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:05:14 -0400 (EDT) - charset="US-ASCII" -x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 -Subject: RE: axiom opportunity +\start Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:05:09 -0400 -Thread-Topic: axiom opportunity -Thread-Index: AcZoZDz3XacNGoTOTsW3bj2xP3LByAAB+iAg From: Bill Page To: David Mentre -Cc: list +Subject: RE: axiom opportunity On Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:32 AM David MENTRE wrote: > [Open Office ...] @@ -29175,7 +17002,7 @@ On Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:32 AM David MENTRE wrote: > One could use a standardized format, like MathML, but I am afraid > of its complexity (that's said, that does not prevent us to look > at how MathML has defined its building blocks). ->=20 +> I think jsMath as an alternative to MathML has continued to evolve and mature very rapidly: @@ -29208,7 +17035,7 @@ user interface. > a innovative and good looking interface (i.e. a combination of > TeXmacs and the one Tim is always giving as example, with > drag&drop). OOo is not one of them. ->=20 +> I agree. TeXmacs is a very interesting platform that has a lot of potential but it needs more work done on the Axiom side @@ -29239,7 +17066,7 @@ Which reminds me to mention: Take a look at: - https://launchpad.net/products/?text=3Daxiom + https://launchpad.net/products/?text=axiom and @@ -29250,47 +17077,12 @@ SourceForge do not have (yet). See for example the online support for translation, "new generation" revision control system, specification tracking system and bounty incentives. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYQji-0005Nl-H3 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:50:02 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYQjg-0005Lh-PO - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:50:00 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYQjf-0005KI-OW - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:50:00 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYQjf-0005Jy-I2 - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:49:59 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FYQmA-00077O-5R - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:52:34 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3PGnsi2002471 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:49:54 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3PGnsmL002468; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:49:54 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:49:54 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page Subject: Re: axiom opportunity - David MENTRE David Mentre, list - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk" -Cc: list, David MENTRE David Mentre - - ---R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk +Cc: David Mentre Page, Bill [Bill Page] wrote: > On Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:32 AM David MENTRE wrote: @@ -29350,77 +17142,28 @@ since every Firefox/Mozilla user will be able to "see" MathML without jumping trough the extra hoops of installing fonts, as is currently required. Axiom should jump on this opportunity. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFETlMyjwioWRGe9K0RAvrJAJ9yK01VF1GY+WYnE5XoxVMs9QGKsgCgh7LW -eTGET3oTB6mIkeEaF4Uo2s4= -=z4Lf ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYRIP-0000cB-UE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:25:53 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYRIP-0000bq-42 - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:25:53 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYRIN-0000bd-Fh - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:25:51 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYRIN-0000ba-8X - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:25:51 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYRKr-00026U-9S - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:28:26 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 40B91683F3; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:25:49 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 964BE683E9; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:25:41 -0400 (EDT) - charset="US-ASCII" -x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 -Subject: RE: axiom opportunity +\start Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:25:40 -0400 -Thread-Topic: axiom opportunity -Thread-Index: AcZoiFLOf1U7kodIQwSih85HOp6PrgAAVZvg From: Bill Page -To: "Bob McElrath" -Cc: list, David MENTRE David Mentre +To: Bob McElrath +Subject: RE: axiom opportunity +Cc: David Mentre On Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:50 PM Bob McElrath wrote: > ... -> Bill Page wrote:=20 +> Bill Page wrote: > > I think jsMath as an alternative to MathML has continued to > > evolve and mature very rapidly: -> >=20 +> > > > http://www.math.union.edu/~dpvc/jsMath/changes.html -> >=20 +> > > > It uses just a subset of LaTeX embedded in HTML. -> >=20 +> > > > For use in a graphical user interface based on web browser > > technology I still consider jsMath quite superior to MathML > > in ease of use, compatibility and even performance. ->=20 -> Uh...Bill..."performance"? I've done quite a few benchmarks=20 +> +> Uh...Bill..."performance"? I've done quite a few benchmarks > and jsMath is a dog when it comes to speed. Could you point me to some examples of these benchmarks? @@ -29453,15 +17196,15 @@ Doing what you can to cache this information makes sense to me. Even sending jsMath itself down the line takes a serious amount of time and we should be careful to make sure the browser is caching it. -=20 -> jsMath is a good transition tool, and Davide hopes to evolve=20 + +> jsMath is a good transition tool, and Davide hopes to evolve > it to have a MathML output mode, but it is by no means fast. > Actually in the most recent "future work" he has mentioned doing the opposite - MathML input with jsMath rendering. Even this makes sense to me. -=20 + > In the long term the solution to math on the web is MathML. In spite of all the effort, I remain sceptical. @@ -29478,10 +17221,10 @@ is "nearly good enough". > Furthermore mathematics needs huge character sets. Moving > to unicode (implied by the move to MathML) will be a huge boon -> to math since we can use all kinds of characters and operators=20 +> to math since we can use all kinds of characters and operators > outside of ASCII. ->=20 -> The Really Big Problem with MathML is fonts. FYI the STIX=20 +> +> The Really Big Problem with MathML is fonts. FYI the STIX > fonts project plans a beta release in the next few weeks: > http://www.stixfonts.org/. The addition of this font, and its > distribution with browsers will remove most of the problems @@ -29496,7 +17239,7 @@ Anyway what prevents jsMath also from benefiting from these new fonts? > Axiom should jump on this opportunity. ->=20 +> On the contrary, I think Axiom should continue to make use of the most expedient solution available now. Axiom needs a better @@ -29504,41 +17247,10 @@ user interface now. I think a possibly (much?) better interface in the future (even the relatively near future, say 2 years) is likely to be too late. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYRTv-0005IG-BT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:37:47 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYRTu-0005I5-Ar - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:37:46 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYRTs-0005Hl-TQ - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:37:45 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYRTs-0005Hi-NX - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:37:44 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYRWO-0003EL-2U - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:40:20 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id E809868423; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:37:43 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 7B32A68432; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:37:33 -0400 (EDT) - charset="US-ASCII" -x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:37:32 -0400 -Thread-Topic: [MathML] -Thread-Index: AcZojYiN8tvvnEt0Q02V6NgHWm7ufQAABrxg From: Bill Page -To: -Cc: list +To: Bob McElrath Subject: RE: [MathML] Bob, @@ -29551,76 +17263,38 @@ button or just create a page named, e.g. SandBoxMathML and then your edits are silent and then rename it when you think it is ready? :) -Regards, -Bill Page. - > -----Original Message----- -> From: Bob McElrath [mailto:mathaction-bounces@axiom-developer.org]=20 +> From: Bob McElrath [mailto:mathaction-bounces@axiom-developer.org] > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:24 PM > To: MathAction -> Subject: [MathML]=20 ->=20 +> Subject: [MathML] +> > Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/MathML/diff > -- ->=20 -> =20 +> +> > ++added: -> + Rep :=3D Record(prolog : L S, MathML : L S, epilog : L S) +> + Rep := Record(prolog : L S, MathML : L S, epilog : L S) > + > precondition: E -> E ->=20 +> > --removed: -> =20 -> - Rep :=3D Record(prolog : L S, MathML : L S, epilog : L S) -> =20 ->=20 +> +> - Rep := Record(prolog : L S, MathML : L S, epilog : L S) +> +> > -- -> forwarded from=20 +> forwarded from > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/MathML#msg20060425122417-0500@ wiki.axiom-developer.org ->=20 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYRbP-0003dA-KA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:45:31 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYRbO-0003b5-1P - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:45:30 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYRbM-0003Y5-KP - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:45:29 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYRbM-0003Xo-DP - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:45:28 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FYRdr-0003wy-Bf - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:48:03 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3PHjHox003350 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:45:17 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3PHjHtH003347; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:45:17 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f +> + +\start Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:45:17 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page Subject: Re: axiom opportunity - David MENTRE David Mentre, list - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pZs/OQEoSSbxGlYw" -Cc: list, David MENTRE David Mentre - - ---pZs/OQEoSSbxGlYw - - ---JWEK1jqKZ6MHAcjA +Cc: David Mentre Page, Bill [Bill Page] wrote: > Could you point me to some examples of these benchmarks? @@ -29684,152 +17358,12 @@ Rendering images or jsMath will never allow: 3) graphical equation editing which one wangs for a UI. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---JWEK1jqKZ6MHAcjA - -=0A=0A= -]> =0A=0A =0A Minimum Document with MathML =0A =0A =0A=0A=0A

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Editing in the browser is painful. I'm editing in an external editor, @@ -29850,81 +17384,17 @@ Page, Bill [Bill Page] wrote: > Bill Page. > > > -----Original Message----- -> > From: Bob McElrath [mailto:mathaction-bounces@axiom-developer.org] -> > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:24 PM -> > To: MathAction -> > Subject: [MathML] -> > -> > Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/MathML/diff -> > -- > > > > -> > ++added: > > + Rep := Record(prolog : L S, MathML : L S, epilog : L S) > > + > > precondition: E -> E -> > -> > --removed: -> > -> > - Rep := Record(prolog : L S, MathML : L S, epilog : L S) -> > -> > -> > -- -> > forwarded from -> > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/MathML#msg20060425122417-0500@ -> wiki.axiom-developer.org -> > --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---b8GWCKCLzrXbuNet - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFETmB6jwioWRGe9K0RApe/AJ46DJdq4JiKa9RKNTUq5wFYFUCmbgCcDiHU -CAdbrpfgCG7X/vLXij0lmao= -=pjCq ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---b8GWCKCLzrXbuNet-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYRky-0000de-3H - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:55:24 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYRkw-0000bo-Nq - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:55:22 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYRku-0000Yg-Ja - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:55:22 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYRku-0000YO-Ao - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:55:20 -0400 -Received: from [193.252.22.25] (helo=smtp6.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYRnP-00050W-H0 - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:57:55 -0400 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf0602.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 60A081C0009E - for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:55:17 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from ALille-251-1-52-162.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-52-162.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.206.162]) - by mwinf0602.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0BD741C000A0; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:55:16 +0200 (CEST) -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Timothy Daly Tim Daly + + +\start Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:55:43 +0200 -Cc: axiom-developer +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Timothy Daly Tim Daly Subject: Typo in DeveloperNotes.pamphlet Hi, @@ -29945,52 +17415,18 @@ The following patch fixes a typo in DeveloperNotes.pamphlet \begin{verbatim} ================================================================ -Cheers, - -Greg - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYRt6-0005yl-Mv - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:03:48 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYRt5-0005vB-1A - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:03:47 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYRt3-0005s4-Eh - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:03:46 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYRt3-0005rl-9I - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:03:45 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYRvY-00060N-JC - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:06:20 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 279A465B87; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:03:44 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id E4C9965BAB; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:03:41 -0400 (EDT) - charset="US-ASCII" -x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:03:40 -0400 -Thread-Topic: [MathML] -Thread-Index: AcZokEfVfBZUi2rCRjiFL+GHt1LtggAAfRDQ From: Bill Page -To: "Bob McElrath" -Cc: list +To: Bob McElrath Subject: RE: [MathML] Bob, On Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:47 PM you wrote: ->=20 +> > Sorry. ->=20 +> > Editing in the browser is painful. I'm editing in an external > editor, which doesn't allow preview... :( @@ -30001,57 +17437,25 @@ No problem. I am glad you are working on the MathML issue! Regards, Bill Page. ->=20 +> > Page, Bill [Bill Page] wrote: > > Bob, -> >=20 +> > > > Because of the way edits are sent to Axiom Wiki subscribers > > you have sent many edit emails like the following. -> >=20 +> > > > Might I suggest that you either take advantage of "Preview" > > button or just create a page named, e.g. SandBoxMathML and > > then your edits are silent and then rename it when you think > > it is ready? :) -> >=20 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYRyF-0007hE-18 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:09:07 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYRyE-0007h3-Hz - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:09:06 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYRyC-0007gi-W2 - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:09:06 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYRyC-0007gf-TV - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:09:04 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FYS0i-0006KX-Eg - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:11:40 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3PI93Kx003635 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:09:03 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3PI93XD003631; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:09:03 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f +> > + +\start Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:09:03 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bFsKbPszpzYNtEU6" -Cc: list Subject: Re: [MathML] - ---bFsKbPszpzYNtEU6 - Page, Bill [Bill Page] wrote: > Bob, > @@ -30071,92 +17475,45 @@ Could you take a look at http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxMathML ? I think I have copied all the relevant bits from tex.spad.pamphlet but it still tells me it can't coerce to my new domain. -Thanks, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---bFsKbPszpzYNtEU6 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFETmW/jwioWRGe9K0RApjbAJsHoUZhjoiRNE165qa9AIfpDsu9NQCg07ME -TDbN07/Iq4r4aw8zknq7CVE= -=HVc/ ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---bFsKbPszpzYNtEU6-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYSin-0003lH-FU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:57:13 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYSil-0003jx-DV - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:57:11 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYSij-0003iX-95 - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:57:11 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYSii-0003iK-Tf - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:57:09 -0400 -Received: from [193.252.23.69] (helo=smtp14.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYSlE-0002cS-NX - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:59:45 -0400 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf1404.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E2E87700009F - for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:57:06 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from ALille-251-1-52-162.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-52-162.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.206.162]) - by mwinf1404.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 607C570000AB; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:57:06 +0200 (CEST) -Subject: re: [MathML] -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Bob McElrath - <20060425180903.GE19448@mcelrath.org> +\start Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:57:32 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Bob McElrath +Subject: re: [MathML] Hi, -Le mardi 25 avril 2006 =E0 11:09 -0700, Bob McElrath a =E9crit :=20 +Le mardi 25 avril 2006 =E0 11:09 -0700, Bob McElrath a =E9crit : > Page, Bill [Bill Page] wrote: > > Bob, -> >=20 +> > > > On Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:47 PM you wrote: -> > >=20 +> > > > > > Sorry. -> > >=20 +> > > > > > Editing in the browser is painful. I'm editing in an external > > > editor, which doesn't allow preview... :( -> >=20 +> > > > External editing in the SandBox works well for this case. -> >=20 +> > > > No problem. I am glad you are working on the MathML issue! ->=20 +> > Could you take a look at http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxMathML = ? ->=20 +> > I think I have copied all the relevant bits from tex.spad.pamphlet but > it still tells me it can't coerce to my new domain. Since this package is not implemented: )abbrev package MML1 MathMLFormat1 -MathMLFormat1(S : SetCategory): public =3D=3D private where - public =3D=3D with +MathMLFormat1(S : SetCategory): public == private where + public == with coerce: S -> MathMLFormat() - private =3D=3D add + private == add import MathMLFormat() - coerce(s : S): MathMLFormat =3D=3D + coerce(s : S): MathMLFormat == coerce(s :: OutputForm)$MathMLFormat @@ -30172,71 +17529,25 @@ So can only use 1::OutputForm::MML; \end{axiom} -Cheers, - -Greg - -> Thanks, -> Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] ->=20 -> "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country -> democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every -> kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they -> might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one -> meaning." -- George Orwell=20 -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYSt5-0002FN-4z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:07:51 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYSt4-0002FI-Gp - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:07:50 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYSt2-0002F6-RO - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:07:49 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYSt2-0002F3-M4 - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:07:48 -0400 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYSvX-0003Uq-Mf - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:10:24 -0400 -Received: from localhost (localhost.drenet.dnd.ca [127.0.0.1]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 20932688F4; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:07:46 -0400 (EDT) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 4C22268915; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:07:42 -0400 (EDT) - charset="US-ASCII" -x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 -Subject: RE: axiom opportunity Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:07:40 -0400 -Thread-Topic: axiom opportunity -Thread-Index: AcZokBBvF4kmZzmBQ02/yNxXZ/vk7wABGqWg From: Bill Page -To: "Bob McElrath" -Cc: list, David MENTRE David Mentre +To: Bob McElrath +Subject: RE: axiom opportunity +Cc: David Mentre -Bob,=20 +Bob, On Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:45 PM you wrote: ->=20 +> > Bill Page wrote: > > Could you point me to some examples of these benchmarks? > > Identical pages rendered as MathML and jsMath? Are there > > some cases that are especially bad? Worse case? ->=20 +> > I've never written down any numbers because jsMath pages take > many seconds, while MathML is always unnoticably fast. ->=20 +> > Attached is one of my test pages, to be compared with: > http://www.math.union.edu/~dpvc/jsMath/examples/TeXbook16.html @@ -30253,7 +17564,7 @@ Of course the actual number of bytes transferred in the case of jsMath can be quite a bit higher because of sending the font information. ->=20 +> > > I have not done any rigorous tests but my experiments using > > FireFox 1.5.0.2 on Windows makes me feel jsMath has the lead - > > although both seem likely "fast enough" for the kinds of uses @@ -30261,7 +17572,7 @@ font information. > > either from a web site or from a local copy of Axiom. Such a > > "page" might contain say at most 10 equations and maybe 20 > > embedded symbols. ->=20 +> > I find this statement very difficult to believe. On the above > example page I can watch it render each expression. It takes > ~4s to render the whole page. The MathML version (attached) @@ -30280,7 +17591,7 @@ Even so, if these examples were generated from the result of an Axiom calculation I believe I might still judge the result "adequate". I suppose that just goes to show that performance is to some extent subjective - it's what you get used to ... -=20 + > jsMath is at least an order of magnatude slower. I don't > understand how you haven't noticed this... On my TiddlyWiki > I have many wiki nodes that take several seconds just to @@ -30288,39 +17599,39 @@ is to some extent subjective - it's what you get used to ... But the math and the pages themselves are very pretty. :) ->=20 -> ...=20 +> +> ... > > > In the long term the solution to math on the web is > > > MathML. -> >=20 +> > > > In spite of all the effort, I remain sceptical. ->=20 +> > Why? Because we have LaTeX now and it works now. As hardware gets faster, software remains just as difficult to write as ever. ->=20 +> > > > Axiom should jump on this opportunity. -> >=20 +> > > > On the contrary, I think Axiom should continue to make use > > of the most expedient solution available now. Axiom needs a > > better user interface now. I think a possibly (much?) better > > interface in the future (even the relatively near future, > > say 2 years) is likely to be too late. ->=20 +> > A better user interface needs a fast, standardized way to > render math. MathML is that solution. > I can agree at least that it probably will be. :) -=20 + > Rendering images or jsMath will never allow: > 1) subexpression interactivity > 2) cut and paste > 3) graphical equation editing > which one wangs for a UI. ->=20 +> Hmmm... I have been testing this kind of thing using the new java-based Maple graphical user interface for almost two years @@ -30332,49 +17643,13 @@ It just doesn't really have much to do with the "mathematics" that one actually does with these tools (at least what I do with them). -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYTuX-0007mE-AL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:13:25 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYTuV-0007lc-9w - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:13:23 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYTuS-0007jV-04 - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:13:22 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYTuR-0007jN-Pg - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:13:19 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1FYTwx-0006NS-FC - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:15:55 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYTST-0001Ri-Ab - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:44:25 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBB440E2A; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:42:51 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k3PJe1tZ020882; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:40:01 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k3PJe1eO020881; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:40:01 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 25 Apr 2006 21:40:01 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: axiom opportunity -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 25 Apr 2006 21:40:01 +0200 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: [...] @@ -30388,83 +17663,20 @@ systems -- not just Debian. We should be at a point where Axiom is included in linux distros -- just like I can have singular with my SuSE distro. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYUeb-0002a1-Tb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:01:01 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYUea-0002Zm-Gz - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:01:00 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYUeW-0002Yp-Pm - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:01:00 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYUeW-0002Ym-K6 - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:00:56 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYUh3-0003tS-I7 - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:03:33 -0400 -Received: from mua-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3PL0qnZ031960; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:00:53 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-3.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1768F7F408; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:00:53 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3PKtIM24551; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:55:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:55:18 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gregory Vanuxem - Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= on Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:55:43 +0200) -Cc: list Subject: Re: Typo in DeveloperNotes.pamphlet patch applied. fixed in the next release --t - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYV7J-0000Li-Q9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:30:41 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYV7G-0000Fa-W4 - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:30:39 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYV7E-0000AF-U0 - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:30:38 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYV7E-00009p-MT - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:30:36 -0400 -Received: from [69.36.241.242] (helo=moya.mcelrath.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FYV9m-00065g-2f - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:33:14 -0400 -Received: from moya.mcelrath.org (mcelrath@localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id - k3PLUXam008606 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:30:33 -0700 -Received: (from mcelrath@localhost) - by moya.mcelrath.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3PLUXmO008603; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:30:33 -0700 - Bob McElrath using -f Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:30:33 -0700 From: Bob McElrath To: Bill Page Subject: Re: axiom opportunity - David MENTRE David Mentre, list - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CEUtFxTsmBsHRLs3" -Cc: list, David MENTRE David Mentre - - ---CEUtFxTsmBsHRLs3 +Cc: David Mentre Page, Bill [Bill Page] wrote: > Bob, @@ -30529,108 +17741,23 @@ one is such crap. Just because a good interface hasn't been written yet doesn't mean that one is impossible. I still hold out hope. --- -Cheers, -Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics] - - "It is almost universally felt that when we call a country - democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every - kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they - might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one - meaning." -- George Orwell - ---CEUtFxTsmBsHRLs3 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) - -iD8DBQFETpT4jwioWRGe9K0RAnR7AKCaaHfay0ebBKGpvXJTj1+1hoPoowCfY2B0 -jk9F6xGjd9HnaGk3T87oPk0= -=xhFD ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---CEUtFxTsmBsHRLs3-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYVDx-0006MY-IK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:37:33 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYVDv-0006MB-4L - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:37:31 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYVDs-0006KV-FG - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:37:29 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYVDs-0006KR-9J - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:37:28 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.17.102] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYVGP-0006Vc-OQ - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:40:05 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E44A4F3B8; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:37:13 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k3PLYYtZ021333; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:34:35 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k3PLYYp1021332; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:34:34 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 25 Apr 2006 23:34:34 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: re: Typo in DeveloperNotes.pamphlet - <200604252055.k3PKtIM24551@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 25 Apr 2006 23:34:34 +0200 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | patch applied. fixed in the next release --t is this also in the SVN repository? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYVPT-0004iO-Fb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:49:27 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYVPS-0004i5-Mm - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:49:26 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYVPR-0004hS-CH - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:49:26 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYVPR-0004hL-1h - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:49:25 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYVRy-0007DG-N6 - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:52:02 -0400 -Received: from mua-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3PLnEhT023621; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:49:18 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-3.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999A07F405; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:49:14 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3PLheo24593; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:43:40 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:43:40 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 25 Apr 2006 23:34:34 +0200) Subject: re: Typo in DeveloperNotes.pamphlet - <200604252055.k3PKtIM24551@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | patch applied. fixed in the next release --t > @@ -30638,99 +17765,31 @@ Cc: list no. i cannot yet reach the svn repositories. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYVgM-0006Mp-My - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:06:54 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYVgL-0006Ma-7K - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:06:53 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYVgH-0006Ki-RP - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:06:51 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYVgH-0006Kc-Iz - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:06:49 -0400 -Received: from [193.252.22.20] (helo=smtp12.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYVip-0000Xo-9k - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:09:27 -0400 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf1203.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E3C8B1C0008C - for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:06:47 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from ALille-251-1-52-162.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-52-162.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.206.162]) - by mwinf1203.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7D4091C00084; - Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:06:47 +0200 (CEST) -Subject: re: Typo in DeveloperNotes.pamphlet -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Gabriel Dos Reis - <200604252055.k3PKtIM24551@localhost.localdomain> - Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:07:15 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: Typo in DeveloperNotes.pamphlet Hi Gaby, Le mardi 25 avril 2006 =E0 23:34 +0200, Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9crit : -> root Tim Daly writes: ->=20 +> Tim Daly writes: +> > | patch applied. fixed in the next release --t ->=20 +> > is this also in the SVN repository? Sorry I forgot to CC you... I'll not forget the next time. -Cheers, - -Greg - -> -- Gaby ->=20 - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYZKf-0006zM-Mg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:00:45 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYZKd-0006z6-RY - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:00:43 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYZKc-0006yu-6Z - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:00:42 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYZKc-0006yr-13 - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:00:42 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYZNC-0001QX-3x - for list; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:03:22 -0400 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3Q20V5H014143 - for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:00:36 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199817F409 - for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:00:32 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3Q1swP24712; - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:54:58 -0400 +\start Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:54:58 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: list -Subject: [lhawthorn@google.com: Re: [Soc2006support] - Summer of Code application] +Subject: Summer of Code application] ------- Start of forwarded message ------- -Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:33:08 -0700 -From: Leslie Hawthorn -To: Tim Daly +From: Leslie Hawthorn Subject: Re: [Soc2006support] Summer of Code application Hello Tim, @@ -30792,45 +17851,14 @@ root wrote: > Soc2006support@google.com > https://mailman.corp.google.com/mailman/listinfo/soc2006support - -- -- Leslie Hawthorn Open Source Program Coordinator -Google Inc. -------- End of forwarded message ------- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYmFK-0006O5-Mh - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:48:06 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYmFJ-0006Nk-7j - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:48:05 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYmFG-0006NY-Sc - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:48:03 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYmFG-0006NV-No - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:48:02 -0400 -Received: from [64.233.162.194] (helo=nz-out-0102.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYmHz-0006ow-1E - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:50:51 -0400 -Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 14so1614005nzn - for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:48:01 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=hkSnTlwFg0z5Bjc8ptYodXLHxA/RdnUkxlp2nGURe+9RZ1iwK0k4nZsOhHfrkBeGb2uzkeqrYc16lLe3RxeKbVpy62IX4/h4ZHVZCsPFEpkgs1NVc76VkiVZRiAhyH+lpqNteFAL/u7ZH9lwiQQn2C7tB36YFMlr+5jGiJ4ItLA= -Received: by 10.36.118.9 with SMTP id q9mr375565nzc; - Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:48:00 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.36.160.14 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:48:00 -0700 (PDT) + +\start Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:48:00 +0200 From: David Mentre -To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: axiom opportunity - -Cc: list Hello, @@ -30842,45 +17870,11 @@ Hello, So why don't you package Axiom for SuSE ? -Best wishes, -d. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYma4-0007CL-Su - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:09:32 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYma3-0007Bq-Ci - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:09:31 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYma1-0007B5-I2 - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:09:31 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYma1-0007B0-D0 - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:09:29 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYmcj-0000Tn-Ta - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:12:18 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E8B40F90; - Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:09:27 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k3QG6XtZ024827; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:06:33 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k3QG6Xfb024826; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:06:33 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 26 Apr 2006 18:06:33 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: David Mentre Subject: Re: axiom opportunity - - <3d13dcfc0604260848i41240f1di49de3b02ce6ff927@mail.gmail.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 26 Apr 2006 18:06:33 +0200 -Cc: list David Mentre writes: @@ -30912,40 +17906,11 @@ Best, upgraded to a newer linux version that was using a new version of glibc. My copy of Maple stopped working. --- Gaby - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYmah-0007V9-Bn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:10:11 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYmaf-0007UH-Ie - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:10:09 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYmad-0007TV-TG - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:10:09 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYmad-0007TQ-OB - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:10:07 -0400 -Received: from [212.27.42.30] (helo=smtp4-g19.free.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYmdM-0000YP-A1 - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:12:56 -0400 -Received: from melusine (pat35-1-82-231-148-189.fbx.proxad.net - [82.231.148.189]) - by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678A554CDE - for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:10:06 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from lehobey by melusine with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) - id 1FYmac-00028i-00 - for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:10:06 +0200 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:10:06 +0200 -To: Axiom developers -Subject: Re: axiom opportunity - - <3d13dcfc0604260848i41240f1di49de3b02ce6ff927@mail.gmail.com> From: Frederic Lehobey +To: list +Subject: Re: axiom opportunity Hi, @@ -30956,7 +17921,7 @@ net>: x > > systems -- not just Debian. > > [ I'm not saying that because I'm a SuSE Linux user :-) ] ->=20 +> > So why don't you package Axiom for SuSE ? Have you tried to run alien on Camm Maguire Debian packages? (I have @@ -30964,46 +17929,12 @@ not.) http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/alien.1.html -Best regards, -Fr=E9d=E9ric - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYmiE-0001Vn-F2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:17:58 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYmiD-0001VR-GU - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:17:57 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYmiB-0001UP-5s - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:17:56 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYmiA-0001UL-Uw - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:17:54 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYmkt-0001LO-Mf - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:20:43 -0400 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3QGHoHs025192; - Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:17:50 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB717F406; - Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:17:50 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3QGCGg25346; - Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:12:16 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:12:16 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 26 Apr 2006 18:06:33 +0200) Subject: Re: axiom opportunity - - <3d13dcfc0604260848i41240f1di49de3b02ce6ff927@mail.gmail.com> - -Cc: list, David Mentre +Cc: David Mentre Axiom should build on any linux system without error. If you know of a system where you set the AXIOM shell variable @@ -31013,48 +17944,14 @@ properly and the build fails please As far as I'm aware Axiom should build on SUSE. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYmss-0007MQ-Ap - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:28:58 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYmsq-0007M0-1h - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:28:56 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYmso-0007KS-K4 - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:28:55 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYmso-0007KP-DS - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:28:54 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYmvX-0002xI-4L - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:31:43 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2166E4F3D7; - Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:28:43 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k3QGPwtZ024921; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:25:58 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k3QGPw7m024920; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:25:58 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 26 Apr 2006 18:25:58 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: axiom opportunity - - <3d13dcfc0604260848i41240f1di49de3b02ce6ff927@mail.gmail.com> - - <200604261612.k3QGCGg25346@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 26 Apr 2006 18:25:58 +0200 -Cc: list, David Mentre +Cc: David Mentre -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | Axiom should build on any linux system without error. | If you know of a system where you set the AXIOM shell variable @@ -31074,44 +17971,11 @@ Axiom currently builds on the linux boxes I have access to (RH, SuSE, Unbuntu) but it installs in non-"standard" locations; that is "easy" to correct with a minimal Autoconf support. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYmt9-0007Pv-GW - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:29:15 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYmt8-0007Pk-6s - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:29:14 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYmt6-0007PY-8s - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:29:13 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYmt6-0007PV-3n - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:29:12 -0400 -Received: from [64.233.162.207] (helo=nz-out-0102.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYmvo-0002yp-Rt - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:32:00 -0400 -Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 14so1624603nzn - for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 09:29:11 -0700 (PDT) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=XPSvllFWGusuXG62rhpo3iVScXHiNPMMI+r9o9dj2glnICYPipV2jCxmMFWr3XFnoxACyUml/lMsAJdm+p4jpSzsb3oMBc/GE156fSt70ETHu2Qtc9xzfy6rzmfSZUX4HGNVgR4BVggm/426J8nQ8HWpd18AIDH6Srvc2QxFRy0= -Received: by 10.36.128.5 with SMTP id a5mr1449891nzd; - Wed, 26 Apr 2006 09:29:11 -0700 (PDT) -Received: by 10.36.160.14 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 09:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:29:11 +0200 From: David Mentre -To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: axiom opportunity - - <3d13dcfc0604260848i41240f1di49de3b02ce6ff927@mail.gmail.com> - -Cc: list - -Gaby, 26 Apr 2006 18:06:33 +0200, Gabriel Dos Reis= : @@ -31158,48 +18022,12 @@ make the program working in the new environment. Tim is doing that work. Bill also. We need more people coding and less talks (like what I'm doing ;-). -Best wishes, -d. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYn39-0001SM-Va - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:39:36 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYn38-0001S0-DE - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:39:34 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYn36-0001Rg-IQ - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:39:33 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYn36-0001Rd-Dj - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:39:32 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYn5p-00047g-77 - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:42:21 -0400 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3QGdR1m002310; - Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:39:27 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C98D7F403; - Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:39:27 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3QGXrP25368; - Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:33:53 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:33:53 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 26 Apr 2006 18:25:58 +0200) Subject: Re: axiom opportunity - - <3d13dcfc0604260848i41240f1di49de3b02ce6ff927@mail.gmail.com> - - <200604261612.k3QGCGg25346@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list, David Mentre +Cc: David Mentre Axiom can be installed at any location (defaults to /usr/local) by adding an option on the command line (see Makefile.dvi) @@ -31210,47 +18038,12 @@ In general, Axiom is designed to be built from source. I provide binaries for the systems I can access but they are not guaranteed to run. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYn6B-0002Iw-Pu - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:42:43 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYn69-0002HJ-H7 - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:42:41 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYn67-0002FJ-P5 - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:42:41 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYn67-0002F9-Li - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:42:39 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYn8q-0004Nx-FN - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:45:28 -0400 -Received: from mua-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3QGgRxa017386; - Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:42:32 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-3.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948957F40B; - Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:42:29 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3QGauI25385; - Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:36:56 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:36:56 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 26 Apr 2006 18:25:58 +0200) Subject: Re: axiom opportunity - - <3d13dcfc0604260848i41240f1di49de3b02ce6ff927@mail.gmail.com> - - <200604261612.k3QGCGg25346@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list, David Mentre +Cc: David Mentre >> But I would >> like Axiom to be better than that; that is the reason why I talked to @@ -31267,37 +18060,11 @@ All of that effort is due to Camm. Unfortunately his tarball of patches are all undocumented so I have no idea why those changes are necessary. I'm reluctant to make changes without understanding. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYnni-00023Q-Re - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:27:42 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYnng-00021b-OQ - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:27:40 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYnnf-0001zw-5z - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:27:40 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYnne-0001zr-Uv - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:27:38 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.212] (helo=mails12.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FYnqO-0000Y0-9D - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:30:28 -0400 -Received: from asus (206-47-29-226.anikast.net [206.47.29.226]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails12.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k3QHRF3q030565; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:27:31 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Frederic Lehobey'" Frederic Lehobey -Subject: RE: axiom opportunity Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:27:06 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'Axiom developers' +From: Bill Page +To: Frederic Lehobey +Subject: RE: axiom opportunity On April 26, 2006 12:10 PM Frederic Lehobey wrote: > @@ -31323,49 +18090,11 @@ where prepared using alien from the Debian distribution as described there. I have successfully installed these on both SuSE and RedHat systems. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYoJq-0004KA-6f - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:00:54 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYoJo-0004IR-9l - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:00:52 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYoJm-0004Gr-E9 - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:00:51 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYoJm-0004Gh-9V - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:00:50 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYoMV-0003rk-IM - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:03:39 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7734F3D1; - Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:00:37 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k3QHvrtZ025357; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:57:53 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k3QHvrNY025356; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:57:53 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 26 Apr 2006 19:57:53 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: David Mentre Subject: Re: axiom opportunity - - <3d13dcfc0604260848i41240f1di49de3b02ce6ff927@mail.gmail.com> - - <3d13dcfc0604260929l27c21b3cpad318d43d43e256a@mail.gmail.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 26 Apr 2006 19:57:53 +0200 -Cc: list David Mentre writes: @@ -31431,50 +18160,14 @@ so, the executive summary is like for Red Hat. It does: the root issue is *dependency*. It has little to do with proprietary versus non-propriatry. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYoRB-0006ID-Vt - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:08:30 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYoRA-0006HL-1R - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:08:28 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYoR8-0006GK-0s - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:08:27 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYoR7-0006GH-PD - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:08:25 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYoTr-0004e3-9j - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:11:15 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37DA44F3CE; - Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:08:13 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k3QI5RtZ025405; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:05:28 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k3QI5RZi025404; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:05:27 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 26 Apr 2006 20:05:27 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: axiom opportunity - - <3d13dcfc0604260848i41240f1di49de3b02ce6ff927@mail.gmail.com> - - <200604261612.k3QGCGg25346@localhost.localdomain> - - <200604261636.k3QGauI25385@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 26 Apr 2006 20:05:27 +0200 -Cc: list, David Mentre +Cc: David Mentre -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | >> But I would | >> like Axiom to be better than that; that is the reason why I talked to @@ -31509,49 +18202,12 @@ of us before investing time in it. That is not abstract talk (David ! :-) Do you have link to those patches? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYos1-0007mx-ON - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:36:13 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYorz-0007mm-Pz - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:36:11 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYory-0007ma-Gf - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:36:11 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYory-0007mX-8v - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:36:10 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYoui-0006zI-7B - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:39:00 -0400 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3QIZc55004030; - Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:35:43 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33D97F405; - Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:35:38 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3QIU2e25463; - Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:30:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:30:02 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 26 Apr 2006 20:05:27 +0200) Subject: Re: axiom opportunity - - <3d13dcfc0604260848i41240f1di49de3b02ce6ff927@mail.gmail.com> - - <200604261612.k3QGCGg25346@localhost.localdomain> - - <200604261636.k3QGauI25385@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list, David Mentre +Cc: David Mentre > | All of that effort is due to Camm. Unfortunately his tarball of > | patches are all undocumented so I have no idea why those changes @@ -31561,52 +18217,14 @@ Cc: list, David Mentre wget daly.axiom-developer.org/axiom_20050901-6.diff -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYp81-0007j6-4P - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:52:45 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYp80-0007iT-BI - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:52:44 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYp7z-0007hI-QP - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:52:44 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYp7z-0007h6-Mt - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:52:43 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYpAj-0000Hf-Mg - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:55:33 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744B940E26; - Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:52:41 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k3QInltZ025607; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:49:47 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k3QInl3M025606; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:49:47 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 26 Apr 2006 20:49:47 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: axiom opportunity - - <3d13dcfc0604260848i41240f1di49de3b02ce6ff927@mail.gmail.com> - - <200604261612.k3QGCGg25346@localhost.localdomain> - - <200604261636.k3QGauI25385@localhost.localdomain> - - <200604261830.k3QIU2e25463@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 26 Apr 2006 20:49:47 +0200 -Cc: list, David Mentre +Cc: David Mentre -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > | All of that effort is due to Camm. Unfortunately his tarball of | > | patches are all undocumented so I have no idea why those changes @@ -31616,42 +18234,15 @@ root Tim Daly writes: | | wget daly.axiom-developer.org/axiom_20050901-6.diff -Thanks! - - BTW, I sent an email to axiom-math yesterday, it is still awaiting moderator review I believe :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYpmn-0000pQ-BB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:34:53 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYpml-0000pB-K3 - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:34:51 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYpmj-0000oq-Sw - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:34:51 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYpmj-0000ol-MP - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:34:49 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.217] (helo=mails17.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FYppU-0004kT-7D - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:37:40 -0400 -Received: from asus ([206.47.29.226]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails17.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k3QJYMjC026355; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:34:40 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Gabriel Dos Reis'" Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: RE: axiom opportunity Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:34:06 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list, David Mentre +From: Bill Page +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: axiom opportunity +Cc: David Mentre Gaby, @@ -31694,47 +18285,14 @@ I have just passed it but you really should register. See: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomCommunity -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYqLr-0003Ue-Dl - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:11:07 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYqLp-0003UP-Lx - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:11:05 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYqLo-0003UC-7t - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:11:05 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYqLo-0003U9-3c - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:11:04 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYqOZ-0007k6-0v - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:13:55 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5AA940E21; - Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:11:01 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k3QK86tZ025964; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:08:07 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k3QK86oO025963; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:08:06 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: axiom opportunity -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 26 Apr 2006 22:08:06 +0200 -Cc: list, David Mentre +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: axiom opportunity +Cc: David Mentre -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -31770,39 +18328,10 @@ subscription for granted). Now, it might be that I registered with a different address where posting with another address (which while not impossible, will surprise me). -Best, - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYuFP-00006p-HM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:20:43 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYuFO-00006O-K4 - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:20:42 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYuFM-00005Y-Pw - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:20:42 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYuFM-00005V-Ll - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:20:40 -0400 -Received: from [193.252.22.22] (helo=smtp9.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYuIA-0002NY-06 - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:23:34 -0400 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf0904.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7EB162400195 - for ; 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- Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:01:18 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:01:18 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gregory Vanuxem - Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= on Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:21:10 +0200) -Cc: list Subject: Re: sourceforge cvs These are the first few lines of the Makefile for the latest version @@ -31945,37 +18410,10 @@ LSP=${SPD}/lsp #GCLVERSION=gcl-2.6.7 GCLVERSION=gcl-2.6.8pre - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYwOW-0005xm-VS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:38:17 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYwOV-0005xO-0s - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:38:15 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FYwOR-0005wW-3t - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:38:14 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FYwOQ-0005wM-JL - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:38:10 -0400 -Received: from [193.252.22.29] (helo=smtp2.wanadoo.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYwRF-00061M-3n - for list; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:41:05 -0400 -Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by mwinf0202.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E532C1C001E3 - for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 04:38:08 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from ALille-251-1-8-99.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-8-99.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.150.99]) - by mwinf0202.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 87C671C001E1; - Thu, 27 Apr 2006 04:38:08 +0200 (CEST) -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Tim Daly - <200604270201.k3R21I725771@localhost.localdomain> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 04:38:40 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: sourceforge cvs Hi, @@ -31991,48 +18429,12 @@ Repository" service don't work too for me... Sorry for the inconvenience. -Cheers, - -Greg - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZCBJ-0007gZ-7J - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:29:41 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZCBH-0007gU-4E - for list; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:29:39 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZCBG-0007gE-Ff - for list; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:29:38 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZCBG-0007g9-A9 - for list; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:29:38 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FZCEE-0008Po-Ka - for list; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:32:42 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AAA740E31; - Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:29:35 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k3RJQatZ030760; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:26:36 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k3RJQafX030759; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:26:36 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 27 Apr 2006 21:26:36 +0200 -Cc: +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: Axiom trunk failure - Hi, I checked out a fresh copy from SVN axiom/trunk. The build failed @@ -32074,41 +18476,10 @@ The rejected hunk is: Does this ring bell to anyone? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZCO1-0004pL-FF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:42:49 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZCO0-0004op-HL - for list; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:42:48 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZCNz-0004oL-LC - for list; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:42:48 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZCNz-0004oI-AI - for list; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:42:47 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FZCQx-00019K-O0 - for list; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:45:51 -0400 -Received: from mua-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3RJgcw6003382; - Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:42:43 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-4.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E2C7F40C; - Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:42:38 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3RJb1q26475; - Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:37:01 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:37:01 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 27 Apr 2006 21:26:36 +0200) -Cc: list Subject: Re: Axiom trunk failure yep. it turns off the "tail recursion" noise. bill schelter and i @@ -32132,45 +18503,13 @@ gcl-2.6.7.cmpnew.gcl_cmpflet.lsp.patch which lives in lsp/gcl-2.6.7/cmpnew/gcl_cmpflet.lsp -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZElt-0001KV-Gb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:15:37 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZElr-0001K4-M7 - for list; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:15:35 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZElq-0001JM-0K - for list; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:15:34 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZElp-0001JJ-TZ - for list; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:15:33 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FZEoq-0002iR-0i - for list; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:18:40 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D4740E26; - Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:15:31 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k3RMCWtZ031276; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:12:32 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k3RMCW54031275; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:12:32 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Tim Daly - <200604271937.k3RJb1q26475@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 28 Apr 2006 00:12:32 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Axiom trunk failure -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | yep. it turns off the "tail recursion" noise. bill schelter and i | worked on creating tail recursion in AKCL. This was just a debugging @@ -32204,44 +18543,11 @@ into existence. Therefore the failure to match. I manually removed those DOS-style newlines and applied the patch, it just work fine. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZFdq-00029s-LK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:11:22 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZFdo-00028n-8e - for list; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:11:20 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZFdm-00027w-CX - for list; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:11:19 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZFdm-00027q-15 - for list; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:11:18 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FZFgm-00084O-Kw - for list; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:14:24 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8106140E20; - Fri, 28 Apr 2006 01:11:15 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k3RN8GtZ031476; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 01:08:16 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k3RN8GTa031475; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 01:08:16 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 28 Apr 2006 01:08:16 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: re: Axiom trunk failure - <200604271937.k3RJb1q26475@localhost.localdomain> - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 28 Apr 2006 01:08:16 +0200 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -32259,44 +18565,12 @@ has those curiosities. So the explanation must be somewhere between the editor Tim used to produce the patch and the the actual patch being stored in the SVN repository. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZNkm-0001sN-HL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 03:51:04 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZNkl-0001rG-0E - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 03:51:03 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZNki-0001pq-GO - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 03:51:02 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZNki-0001pZ-9h - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 03:51:00 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FZNnn-0004hK-OC - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 03:54:11 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB77F40F45; - Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:50:58 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k3S7lutZ000674; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:47:57 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k3S7luRS000673; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:47:56 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Camm Maguire -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 28 Apr 2006 09:47:56 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Camm Maguire Subject: GCL-2.6.7 and GCC-4.2.0 - Hi Camm, Building GCL-2.6.7 (either pristine release or as part of Axiom) @@ -32310,42 +18584,11 @@ gcc -o raw_gcl \ sys_gcl.c: undefined reference to `init_gcl_cmptop' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZPb9-0000oD-OG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 05:49:15 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZPb8-0000nu-5s - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 05:49:14 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZPb6-0000na-Gs - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 05:49:13 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZPb6-0000nX-Bd - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 05:49:12 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FZPeC-00087b-Rd - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 05:52:25 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD234F3C2; - Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:49:04 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k3S9k8tZ001067; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:46:08 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k3S9k8us001066; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:46:08 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 28 Apr 2006 11:46:07 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: GCL-2.6.7 and GCC-4.2.0 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 28 Apr 2006 11:46:07 +0200 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -32399,34 +18642,11 @@ soliton[5:17]% diff cmpnew/gcl_cmptop.o cmpnew/gcl_cmptop.data soliton[5:17]% ~/build/gcl-2.6.7 --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZSSo-0001fw-Do - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:52:50 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZSSm-0001es-VV - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:52:48 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZSSl-0001eU-UC - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:52:48 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZSSl-0001eR-RW; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:52:47 -0400 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1FZSVu-0000YI-1Y; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:56:02 -0400 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1FZSSe-0007gy-00; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:52:40 -0400 +Date: 28 Apr 2006 08:52:40 -0400 +From: Camm Maguire To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: GCL-2.6.7 and GCC-4.2.0 - -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 28 Apr 2006 08:52:40 -0400 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Greetings! Yes, if you could please post the output from the compilation of gcl_cmptop.lsp, that would be great! Or simply the @@ -32485,57 +18705,13 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > cmpnew/gcl_cmpvs.o: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped > cmpnew/gcl_cmpwt.o: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped > soliton[5:17]% diff cmpnew/gcl_cmptop.o cmpnew/gcl_cmptop.data -> soliton[5:17]% ~/build/gcl-2.6.7 -> -> -> -- Gaby -> -> -> +> soliton[5:17]% ~/build/gcl-2.6.7 --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZTZD-0000Kw-03 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:03:31 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZTZB-0000I4-2L - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:03:29 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZTZ8-0000Er-5W - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:03:28 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZTZ8-0000Ej-1Q - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:03:26 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FZTcG-0006ze-J7 - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:06:41 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234DD40E21; - Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:03:22 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k3SE0JtZ002038; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:00:19 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k3SE0Jhl002037; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:00:19 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 28 Apr 2006 16:00:19 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: GCL-2.6.7 and GCC-4.2.0 - - <54aca53lrb.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 28 Apr 2006 16:00:19 +0200 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org - ---=-=-= Camm Maguire writes: @@ -32550,93 +18726,11 @@ gcl_cmptop.o: ASCII English text, with very long lines Content of the file attached to this message. --- Gaby - ---=-=-= - - -#(#! -(lisp::in-package (lisp::quote user::compiler)) -#(#\- #\_ #\/ #\. #\! #\E #\* #\A #\$ "code" #p".lsp" :host :device :directory :name :version "gcl_" compiler::*current-form* compiler::*first-error* lisp::nil system::|#,| "Sharp-comma-macro is in a bad place." compiler::package-operation compiler::*non-package-operation* "The package operation ~s was in a bad place." compiler::t1 compiler::*compile-print* compiler::top-level-macro compiler::c1 "~s is illegal function." "" "void" "long " "object " compiler::*vcs-used* compiler::*function-links* compiler::*c-vars* " VOL " compiler::*volatile* compiler::*vaddress-list* compiler::*vind* compiler::*inits* compiler::*top-level-forms* compiler::*compiler-output1* compiler::t2 compiler::t3 compiler::*local-funs* compiler::*global-entries* compiler::*closures* compiler::*compiler-output2* "LC" compiler::fun compiler::*reservations* compiler::*next-vv* 2147483647 ")," ")" compiler::proclaimed-closure "" "" compiler::eval-at-compile :defaults compiler::*eval-when-defaults* lisp::compi - le lisp::eval-when "The EVAL-WHEN situation ~s is illegal." lisp::progn (lisp::quote lisp::compile) compiler::*compile-ordinaries* lisp::&aux compiler::*setjmps* lisp::defun compiler::*sharp-commas* "The function name ~s is not a symbol." compiler::*local-functions* compiler::*vars* compiler::*funs* compiler::*blocks* compiler::*tags* compiler::*special-binding* compiler::ufun compiler::*next-cfun* compiler::info compiler::fixed-args lisp::function :initial-element compiler::proclaimed-function compiler::proclaimed-arg-types lisp::* compiler::var compiler::lexical lisp::special compiler::clb (lisp::fixnum lisp::character lisp::long-float lisp::short-float) lisp::object compiler::*c-gc* "Calls to ~a will be VERY SLOW. Recommend not to proclaim. ~%;;The arg caused the problem. ~a" compiler::proclaimed-return-type compiler::*inline-functions* compiler::*global-funs* "~d()" "LI" :element-type lisp::string-char :fill-pointer :adjustable "~d(" "LI" "#~d)" "#~d," compiler::*next-c - var* lisp::fixnum system::mfsfun lisp::quote "LI" "~a needs ! - ~a args. - ~a supplied." "~%;; ~a Number of proclaimed args was ~a. ~ - ~%;;Its definition had ~a." " ~a is proclaimed but not in *inline-functions* ~ - ~%T1defun could not assure suitability of args for C call" "VOL " "" "" compiler::*register-min* "register " "" compiler::no-global-entry system::putprop (lisp::quote system::function-documentation) system::mfvfun-key "LI" "&LI~akey" system::mfvfun "LI" "L" system::mf "L" "" compiler::*space* compiler::debug-prop system::debug compiler::*downward-closures* "Old style inline" compiler::t3defun-local-entry compiler::return-fixnum compiler::return-character compiler::return-long-float compiler::return-short-float compiler::return-object compiler::t3defun-vararg compiler::t3defun-normal lisp::return compiler::*exit* compiler::*vs* compiler::*max-vs* compiler::*level* compiler::*ccb-vs* compiler::*clink* compiler::*unwind-exit* compiler::*value-to-go* compiler::*reservation-cmacro* compiler::*next-cmacro* compiler::*sup-used* compiler::*restore-avma* compiler::*base-used* compiler::*cs* lisp::character lisp::long-float lisp::short-float "local entry for function " "LI" "LI - " compiler::*tail-recursion-info* compiler::*do-tail-recursion* compiler::t3defun compiler::*compiler-push-events* compiler::tail-recursion-mark compiler::bds-bind "object " compiler::*vararg-use-vs* compiler::*inline-blocks* compiler::cvar "local entry for function " "" "LI" lisp::string "object" "," "," "object,..." "LI" compiler::*safe-compile* compiler::*compiler-check-args* compiler::*last-label* "--" "" compiler::first-var-arg compiler::next-var-arg compiler::*rest-on-stack* :dynamic-extent compiler::location (compiler::vv compiler::fixnum-value) compiler::dummy compiler::vv compiler::fixnum-value "base " "Vcs " "function definition for " "L" "~a has a duplicate definition in this file" compiler::*free-address-registers* compiler::*free-data-registers* (lisp::fixnum lisp::character lisp::short-float lisp::long-float) 100000 1000000 "global entry for the function " "L" "CMPmake_fixnum" "make_fixnum" "code_char" "make_longfloat" "make_shortfloat" "" "LI" "fix" "char_code - " "lf" "sf" "" "long " "GEN " "unsigned char " "float " "dou! - ble " "o -bject " lisp::defmacro "The macro name ~s is not a symbol." 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My apologies -- not the .o file, the log from the compilation posted to the screen. Or, if you prefer, your entire @@ -32659,89 +18753,21 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > gcl_cmptop.o: ASCII English text, with very long lines > > Content of the file attached to this message. -> -> -- Gaby -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZUvz-0002O7-5V - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:31:07 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZUvx-0002ME-Ec - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:31:05 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZUvv-0002Lm-T4 - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:31:05 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZUvv-0002Lc-MZ - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:31:03 -0400 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FZUz5-0006lC-Q1 - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:34:19 -0400 -Received: from mua-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3SFUvZn008799; - Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:30:57 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain - (dynamic-acs-72-23-17-240.zoominternet.net [72.23.17.240]) - by mua-2.zoominternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B117F40A; - Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:30:57 -0400 (EDT) -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k3SFPKu27199; - Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:25:20 -0400 +\start Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:25:20 -0400 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Camm Maguire - on 28 Apr 2006 10:35:06 -0400) Subject: Re: GCL-2.6.7 and GCC-4.2.0 - - <54aca53lrb.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <544q0dvkdh.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org you guys might find it more efficient to cooperate using accounts on axiom-developer.org. let me know. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZV0C-0004Bf-KS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:35:28 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZV0A-0004BC-P3 - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:35:26 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZV0A-0004Az-8k - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:35:26 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZV0A-0004Aw-4P; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:35:26 -0400 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1FZV3K-00073X-4p; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:38:42 -0400 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1FZV08-0002hw-00; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:35:24 -0400 +Date: 28 Apr 2006 11:35:24 -0400 +From: Camm Maguire To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: GCL-2.6.7 and GCC-4.2.0 - - <54aca53lrb.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <544q0dvkdh.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 28 Apr 2006 11:35:24 -0400 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Greetings! @@ -32781,57 +18807,11 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: No, usually the .data file is appended to the .o output by gcc, but here the latter is empty. -Take care, - -> -> -- Gaby -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZV9X-0007c8-5z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:45:07 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZUgP-0005EN-WD - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:15:02 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZUgP-0005E3-9W - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:15:01 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZUgP-0005E0-12 - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:15:01 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FZUjS-00057u-Uj - for list; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:18:16 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EE54F3CA; - Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:14:38 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k3SFBitZ002308; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:11:44 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k3SFBiJf002307; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:11:44 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 28 Apr 2006 17:11:44 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: GCL-2.6.7 and GCC-4.2.0 - - <54aca53lrb.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <544q0dvkdh.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 28 Apr 2006 17:11:44 +0200 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org - ---=-=-= Camm Maguire writes: @@ -32846,1213 +18826,11 @@ time. 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Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 28 Apr 2006 17:50:04 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: GCL-2.6.7 and GCC-4.2.0 - - <54aca53lrb.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <544q0dvkdh.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <54odylg1c3.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 28 Apr 2006 17:50:04 +0200 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Camm Maguire writes: @@ -34082,50 +18860,11 @@ module instead of continuing as if everything was OK? I'm taking care of that part since it turns out to be a GCC problem. *Shrug*. -Many thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZtIQ-0004r7-Ma - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 13:31:54 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZtIP-0004qH-24 - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 13:31:53 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZtIN-0004pt-9w - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 13:31:51 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZtIN-0004pq-18 - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 13:31:51 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.106] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FZtLm-0004Ht-7K - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 13:35:22 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DB340E24; - Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:31:48 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k3THSetZ007061; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:28:41 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k3THSejL007060; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:28:40 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 29 Apr 2006 19:28:40 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: GCL-2.6.7 and GCC-4.2.0 - - <54aca53lrb.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <544q0dvkdh.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <54odylg1c3.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 29 Apr 2006 19:28:40 +0200 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Camm Maguire writes: @@ -34138,50 +18877,11 @@ Camm Maguire writes: | No, usually the .data file is appended to the .o output by gcc, but | here the latter is empty. -Aha; thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZtKx-0005QE-Ef - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 13:34:31 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZtKv-0005Pm-Pe - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 13:34:29 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZtKt-0005P2-MB - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 13:34:28 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZtKt-0005Op-6I - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 13:34:27 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.16.106] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FZtOI-0004Xr-Au - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 13:37:58 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1058D40E24; - Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:34:25 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k3THVItZ007097; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:31:18 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k3THVIsc007096; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:31:18 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 29 Apr 2006 19:31:18 +0200 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: GCL-2.6.7 and GCC-4.2.0 - - <54aca53lrb.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <544q0dvkdh.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <54odylg1c3.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 29 Apr 2006 19:31:18 +0200 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Camm Maguire writes: @@ -34195,56 +18895,30 @@ The issue is now fixed in the current working development version of GCC I can report a successful build for both GCL and Axiom. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZux5-000710-3y - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:17:59 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZux3-0006zy-6w - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:17:57 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZux0-0006yI-Sc - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:17:55 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZux0-0006y7-MO - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:17:54 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.217] (helo=mails17.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FZv0Q-0005ZY-JS - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:21:26 -0400 -Received: from asus ([206.47.29.226]) (authenticated bits=0) - by mails17.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k3TJHT2u029865; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:17:46 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory'?=" Gregory Vanuxem, - Tim Daly -Subject: RE: Re: sourceforge cvs Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:16:55 -0400 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: RE: Re: sourceforge cvs On April 26, 2006 10:39 PM Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: ->=20 +> > On 26 avril 2006 =E0 22:01 -0400, Tim Daly (root) wrote: > ... > > These are the first few lines of the Makefile for the latest > > version just checked out from the sourceforge cvs. > ... -> > #GCLVERSION=3Dgcl-2.6.7 -> > GCLVERSION=3Dgcl-2.6.8pre +> > #GCLVERSION=gcl-2.6.7 +> > GCLVERSION=gcl-2.6.8pre > ... ->=20 +> > Checked out another time on a reiserfs partition without success -> (always the Axiom (December 2005) version). So it seems that I'm=20 +> (always the Axiom (December 2005) version). So it seems that I'm > alone with this problem, another thing that I don't understand today. > The "Browse CVS Repository" service don't work too for me... ->=20 +> > Sorry for the inconvenience. ->=20 +> There is definitely a strange problem with the CVS at SourceForge. @@ -34254,7 +18928,7 @@ http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/axiom/axiom/ (December 2005) and -http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/axiom/axiom/Makefile?view=3Dmarkup +http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/axiom/axiom/Makefile?view=markup shows the old version of the Makefile without gcl-2.6.8pre @@ -34263,46 +18937,17 @@ from SourceForge and I did obtain the correct new version. And further more the Savannah CVS browse is also up to date: -http://cvs.savannah.nongnu.org/viewcvs/axiom/?root=3Daxiom +http://cvs.savannah.nongnu.org/viewcvs/axiom/?root=axiom (patch-49) I don't understand it. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZv1e-0008PL-WB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:22:43 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZv1c-0008Oz-VS - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:22:41 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZv1a-0008Ok-K2 - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:22:40 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZv1a-0008Oh-EF - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:22:38 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.210] (helo=mails10.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FZv50-0005x2-OK - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:26:10 -0400 -Received: from asus (206-47-29-226.anikast.net [206.47.29.226]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails10.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k3TJM2mA020994; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:22:24 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Tim Daly -Subject: RE: Re: Typo in DeveloperNotes.pamphlet Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:21:46 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: Typo in DeveloperNotes.pamphlet On April 25, 2006 5:44 PM Tim Daly (root) wrote: > @@ -34320,55 +18965,26 @@ SourceForge to allow access to SVN? :) I have just updated your admin rights at SourceForge so you should now have full access the same as Gaby. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZv99-00021x-9X - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:30:27 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZv97-00021g-Te - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:30:25 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZv97-00020y-48 - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:30:25 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZv96-00020v-V4 - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:30:24 -0400 -Received: from [216.251.41.210] (helo=mails10.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FZvCX-0006bW-5b - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:33:57 -0400 -Received: from asus (206-47-29-226.anikast.net [206.47.29.226]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by mails10.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - k3TJTsQh022630; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:30:11 -0400 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Gabriel Dos Reis'" Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: RE: axiom opportunity Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:29:38 -0400 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: axiom opportunity On April 26, 2006 2:50 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: ->=20 +> > Tim Daly (root) writes: ->=20 -> | All of that effort is due to Camm. Unfortunately his tarball of=20 +> +> | All of that effort is due to Camm. Unfortunately his tarball of > | patches are all undocumented so I have no idea why those changes > | are necessary. I'm reluctant to make changes without understanding. -> | >=20 +> | > > | > Do you have link to those patches? -> |=20 +> | > | wget daly.axiom-developer.org/axiom_20050901-6.diff ->=20 +> > Thanks! ->=20 +> Concerning documentation of the Debian patches for Axiom recall that: @@ -34408,17 +19024,17 @@ achieved via a load and a si::save-system. I'm hoping 2.7.0 will be the end of this requirement. Take care, -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D -=3D +========================== +========================== +========================== += += --- ./lsp/Makefile.pamphlet.~1.5.~ 2005-09-05 18:50:31.000000000 +0000 +++ ./lsp/Makefile.pamphlet 2005-09-20 21:20:10.000000000 +0000 @@ -1012,14 +1012,7 @@ @echo 1 building ${LSP} ${GCLVERSION} -=20 - gcldir:=20 + + gcldir: - @echo 2 building ${GCLVERSION} - @tar -zxf ${ZIPS}/${GCLVERSION}.tgz -<> @@ -34435,7 +19051,7 @@ si::*system-directory* (quote (list #+native-reloc".o" ".lsp"))) "${OBJ}/${SYS}/lib/cfuns-c.o ${OBJ}/${SYS}/lib/sockio-c.o ${OBJ}/${SYS}/lib/libspad.a")' | gcl @echo 13 finished system build on `date` | tee >gcldir -=20 + ccldir: ${LSP}/ccl/Makefile --- ./src/algebra/Lattice.pamphlet.orig 2005-01-04 23:45:59.000000000 = +0000 @@ -34463,7 +19079,7 @@ ${MID}\")" + rm -f /tmp/tmp.input ) +# @ (cp ${SRC}/../debian/*.daase ${MID}) @ echo If all went well, go-ahead Mike and do a db-install as well ! -=20 + db-install: @@ -39758,7 +39759,8 @@ @ echo rebuilding databases... @@ -34474,7 +19090,7 @@ ${MID}\")" nil)#-native-reloc(system \"cp ${SRC}/../debian/*.daase ${MID}\"))" | ${INTERPSYS} ) +# @ (cp ${SRC}/../debian/*.daase ${MID}) -=20 + check: @ echo Checking that INTERP.EXPOSED and NRLIBs are consistent --- ./src/etc/Makefile.pamphlet.orig 2005-01-30 12:03:12.000000000 +0000 @@ -34494,23 +19110,23 @@ ${SRC}/../debian/*.daase ${MNT}/${SYS}/algebra\"))" | ${INTERPSYS} ) +# @ cp ${INT}/algebra/*.daase ${MNT}/${SYS}/algebra +# @ (cp ${SRC}/../debian/*.daase ${MNT}/${SYS}/algebra) -=20 + @ \section{summary} --- ./src/boot/Makefile.pamphlet.orig 2005-06-05 03:23:35.000000000 = +0000 +++ ./src/boot/Makefile.pamphlet 2005-09-20 21:36:15.000000000 +0000 @@ -1173,7 +1173,8 @@ -=20 + Until this is fixed we need to continue to use the old scheme. - <>=3D=20 --CMD0=3D (progn (mapcar (function (lambda (x) (load x))) (quote = + <>= +-CMD0= (progn (mapcar (function (lambda (x) (load x))) (quote = (${OBJS1}))) (system::save-system "${SAVESYS}")) -+#CMD0=3D (progn (mapcar (function (lambda (x) (load x))) (quote = ++#CMD0= (progn (mapcar (function (lambda (x) (load x))) (quote = (${OBJS1}))) (system::save-system "${SAVESYS}")) -+CMD0=3D (if (member :native-reloc *features*) (progn (mapcar (function ++CMD0= (if (member :native-reloc *features*) (progn (mapcar (function (lambda (x) (load x))) (quote (${OBJS1}))) (system::save-system "${SAVESYS}")) (compiler::link (quote (${OBJS1})) "${SAVESYS}" (format = nil @@ -34520,7 +19136,7 @@ t)) (setq compiler::*default-system-p* t)" si::*system-directory* (quote = (list ".lsp"))))) - =20 + @ \subsection{boothdr.lisp \cite{1}} --- ./src/interp/Makefile.pamphlet.orig 2005-09-20 21:48:56.000000000 = @@ -34528,7 +19144,7 @@ t)) +++ ./src/interp/Makefile.pamphlet 2005-09-20 21:49:14.000000000 +0000 @@ -576,7 +576,28 @@ \begin{verbatim} - <>=3D + <>= @ (cd ${MNT}/${SYS}/bin ; \ - echo '(progn (load "${OUT}/makedep.lisp") (spad-save "${DEPSYS}"))' | ${LISPSYS}) @@ -34565,7 +19181,7 @@ t)\ + nil))' | ${LISPSYS}) @ \end{verbatim} -=20 + @@ -880,8 +901,36 @@ @ echo '#+:akcl (setq compiler::*suppress-compiler-notes* t)' >> ${OUT}/makeint.lisp @@ -34620,70 +19236,37 @@ $(OBJ)/$(SYS)/lib/cfuns-c.o $(OBJ)/$(SYS)/lib/libspad.a" \ @ echo 6 ${SAVESYS} created @ cp ${SAVESYS} ${AXIOMSYS} @ echo 6a ${AXIOMSYS} created -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D -=3D +========================== +========================== +========================== += += -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: > > > also, how do we handle the fact that users can build gcl > > > using the -ansi switch. that means that their local copy > > > of gcl cannot be used by axiom (yet). -> > >=20 -> >=20 +> > > +> > > > The Debian prerequiste for Axiom is the non-ansi version of > > gcl. If the non-ansi version is not installed on the system > > then 'apt-get install axiom' will also install it. ->=20 -> true but not everyone uses debian.=20 +> +> true but not everyone uses debian. > how do we solve the redhat9 issue? ->=20 +> Note that the rpms created by alien from the debian binaries work on redhad9. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZvxW-00036j-R9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 16:22:30 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZvC9-00038I-05 - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:33:33 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZvC6-00036b-Vn - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:33:32 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZvC6-00036W-Td - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:33:30 -0400 -Received: from [131.130.1.182] (helo=imap1u.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FZvFW-0006sQ-PL - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:37:03 -0400 -Received: from localhost.localdomain ([131.130.96.153]) - by imap1u.univie.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k3TJWtXY006595; - Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:33:02 +0200 (CEST) -To: Ralf HEMMECKE Ralf Hemmecke, "Nicolas M. Thiery" - , Antoine Hersen, Bernhard - Gittenberger , - =?iso-8859-2?q?Petr_Hlin=ECn=FD?= , - carsten.schneider@risc.uni-linz.ac.at, Peter.Paule@risc.uni-linz.ac.at, - christian.aistleitner@gmx.at -From: Martin Rubey Date: 29 Apr 2006 21:38:40 +0200 -Cc: axiom-dev , - mupad-combinat-users@lists.sourceforge.net, aldor-l +From: Martin Rubey +To: Ralf Hemmecke, Nicolas M. Thiery Subject: A{ld,xi}o{r,m}-Combinat ---=-=-= Dear all, @@ -34715,292 +19298,12 @@ Finally I would like to say a big "thank you" to Ralf Hemmecke! 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Thiery'" +From: Bill Page +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: RE: A{ld,xi}o{r,m}-Combinat +Cc: Nicolas M. Thiery Martin, @@ -35063,44 +19366,12 @@ Thanks for the quick report. I am glad to hear that it turned out so well. Perhaps we will hear also from some of the other participants? 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Thiery'" - +Cc: Nicolas M. Thiery --- Bill Page wrote: @@ -35179,47 +19450,12 @@ video camera to record the talks (provided the speakers agree, of course.) This was done for at least one of the Blender conferences and I found it a very interesting resource. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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The primary problem seems to be that the prompt work-arounds needed for the patch-49 version aren't required for the @@ -35235,1026 +19471,12 @@ scratch, and then typing M-x axiom-mode. Something cleaner is probably possible but that's how I normally test this so I haven't figured out the clean way yet. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Thiery'" , - 'axiom-dev' +Cc: Nicolas M. Thiery Hello, @@ -36340,37 +19562,11 @@ the workshop. Now I can hardly speak anymore. :-( All the best and also a big thanks to Martin who first came up with the idea to have such a workshop at RISC and who worked quite a lot for it. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZykJ-0003XG-3d - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:21:03 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZykH-0003Wn-Mw - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:21:01 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZykF-0003WW-Ld - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:21:01 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZykF-0003WT-Gv - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:20:59 -0400 -Received: from [218.40.30.107] (helo=smtp10.tiki.ne.jp) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FZynh-0006mR-Ql - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:24:34 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.11.5] (pl183.nas933.takamatsu.nttpc.ne.jp - [210.136.182.183]) (authenticated bits=0) - by smtp10.tiki.ne.jp (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3TNKqTE017920 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) - for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:20:53 +0900 (JST) - (envelope-from fusion@mx6.tiki.ne.jp) -From: Jean-Christophe Helary -Subject: re: sourceforge cvs Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:20:39 +0900 +From: Jean-Christophe Helary To: list +Subject: re: sourceforge cvs > There is definitely a strange problem with the CVS at SourceForge. @@ -36382,38 +19578,11 @@ when the developer keeps adding stuff everyday. There is a note somewhere on SF about that. -JC Helary - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZyoe-0004i3-Cw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:25:32 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZyod-0004hj-11 - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:25:31 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZyoc-0004hN-Ax - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:25:30 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZyoc-0004hJ-3w - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:25:30 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FZys4-0007Hc-L6 - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:29:04 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3TNPPfa018486 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:25:26 +0200 +\start Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:25:16 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Cliff Yapp Subject: Re: Emacs mode in Windows -Cc: list Hello Cliff, @@ -36423,47 +19592,15 @@ that is not a pamphlet file. Or is it and I just don't know? Always think of those poor guys who come after you and had to modify your stuff. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZyuW-0006jC-1g - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:31:36 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZyuU-0006ib-5H - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:31:34 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZyuT-0006i4-1l - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:31:33 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZyuS-0006i1-V0 - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:31:32 -0400 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1FZyxv-0007bU-Cq - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:35:07 -0400 -Received: from [192.168.138.29] (funklan.is4all.net [194.96.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - k3TNVUfa018699 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:31:30 +0200 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:31:18 +0200 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page, - axiom-dev Subject: Re: A{ld,xi}o{r,m}-Combinat -Cc: Oooop, no it was not intentional that I forgot the code in my last mail on this thread. Sorry. -Ralf - - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ---- CombClass @@ -36555,44 +19692,13 @@ count 6 = 42 ENDE #endif - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZyzN-0008Jx-4g - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:36:37 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZyzL-0008Jp-9H - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:36:35 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1FZyzK-0008Jd-DJ - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:36:34 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZyzK-0008Ja-AQ - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:36:34 -0400 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FZz2n-0007xk-1C - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:40:09 -0400 -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24FB4F3BE; - Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:36:32 +0200 (CEST) -Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) - with ESMTP id k3TNXOtZ008288; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:33:24 +0200 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id - k3TNXONH008287; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:33:24 +0200 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: axiom opportunity -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 30 Apr 2006 01:33:24 +0200 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: axiom opportunity -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On April 26, 2006 2:50 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: | > @@ -36616,38 +19722,11 @@ Cc: list Many thanks. I'll go over this later when time permits. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Fa17N-0001LG-OY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:53:01 -0400 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Fa17M-0001JZ-1Z - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:53:00 -0400 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Fa17K-0001Il-8v - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:52:59 -0400 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fa17K-0001Ig-2f - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:52:58 -0400 -Received: from [68.142.201.194] (helo=web31714.mail.mud.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Fa1An-0008M4-S1 - for list; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:56:34 -0400 -Received: (qmail 54365 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Apr 2006 01:52:56 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=Pzh5Tb7BmsYDzTbLDS3kCRE7OQvGdeJT9h0uYqAkLwmhv/7jpkWWjT2X21RJB9t5xgW2nxZd0RMl0KOecE99JdQ5qhBIPUTUWGEVHaxE9bnNIWjY39XrwAAOi1CQcOBb5Fg8rkDkrtejmGxzerZFhwIINPIc2WH2miiOyv+XVao= - ; -Received: from [68.82.182.25] by web31714.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:52:56 PDT Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:52:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Yapp -Subject: Re: Emacs mode in Windows To: Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list +Subject: Re: Emacs mode in Windows --- Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -36698,43 +19777,12 @@ I think this mode will have to stay in the Sandbox for quite a while - there are many changes and features to come before it can claim to be a really serious asset to users or developers. -Cheers, -CY - -__________________________________________________ -Do You Yahoo!? -Tired of spam? 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